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    Any news on Q9450 and D901C

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Zelig96, Apr 21, 2008.

  1. Zelig96

    Zelig96 Notebook Guru

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    Is there any news (ETA?) from Clevo or Sager on the availability of the Q9450 in the D901C ?

    Waiting for support for this CPU is like waiting for 6edo's laptop to turn up!
     
  2. pasoleatis

    pasoleatis Notebook Deity

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    They are already putting the E8400, probably they do not offer q9450 because is difficult to obtaine.

    PL
     
  3. 6edo

    6edo Notebook Evangelist

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    :p :p :p :p hopefully it will have a happy end like my story...
     
  4. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    there are a bunch of vendors in Europe and US that already are selling laptops with q9450.
     
  6. Neil@Kobalt

    Neil@Kobalt Company Representative

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    We have extensively tested Q9450s in the 901C with a BETA BIOS. The main bug is lack of 4GB support and so we have shipped to customers who have either 1/ 2GB RAM or 2/ wanted to take delivery asap and install the second 2GB when a BIOS that supports 4GB is released. The CPUs are also not that available atm as pasoleatis pointed out (unless you happened to get hold of some of the first batch :) )

    See here for a few benchmarks:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=238407
     
  7. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    @Neil: What, more precisely, is the nature of the 4GB "bug" in the beta BIOS?

    @Goph: Is it reasonable to assume that your post implies that the aforementioned BIOS "bug" is close to a solution?
     
  8. Neil@Kobalt

    Neil@Kobalt Company Representative

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    Put simply, 4GB doesn't work :mad:

    It's been close for a few weeks...............
     
  9. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    That's a bit strange, dontcha think? Is it related to Intel's new chipset concept that does away with busses and goes to a new point-to-point communications topology?
     
  10. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    From info that was leaked through Clevo sources... the main difficulty is that the P965 chipset is what is holding back the full and stable utilization of 45nm Penryn CPUs.... as compared to the next gen chipsets (P35, P5B, etc...).

    Out of all the P965 desktop motherboards, less than 20 boards can even support 45nm Penryn CPU's with BIOS updates... out those 20, about 50% of them have no bugs while the other 50% have issues.

    Clevo is testing beta BIOS's that are promising, but the thing to watch for is when Sager (largest Clevo distributor) announces support for it... which is when you know that the Penryn support is stable and efficient.
     
  11. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Ok, so scratch the "new concept" idea. Beyond that, who'da thunk that the implementation of one chipset could have so many different variants on just the chipset alone (of course, now that I've said it, that means it's common knowledge to everyone but me, right? :rolleyes: ). Well, at least that gives a little more grist for the speculative mill (and more chances to waste time at work :D ).

    As to the significance of a Clevo/Sager statement - you've got that right - they don't usually seem to say "boo" until all the internal worry-warts have been placated.
     
  12. Neil@Kobalt

    Neil@Kobalt Company Representative

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    Not sure this has been leaked, we've been talking about it here for a start :) - the 901C chassis is based around P965 chipset and that is where the issue lies, hence the need for a BIOS update.

    I think it's worth pointing out that all major Clevo resellers have access to the same drivers/beta BIOSs etc for testing. There are lots of companies that operate completely independantly from Sager, mostly outside the US, who I'm sure are just as competant in their testing etc :)
     
  13. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    I totally agree with you. :)

    I was just pointing out that Sager is a vendor that gives you what Clevo intended to release.... so I would say that
    stock Clevo (everything... chassis, BIOS, etc..) = Sager/Eurocom/Pro-Star

    Having independent vendors that do their own mods makes things more interesting, as well as maybe opening the eyes of Clevo when they cant figure it out.
     
  14. roweathers

    roweathers Notebook Consultant

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    This is maddening.... I am waiting for PNB or Xotic to offer the Q9450 in the 9262. All the while, resellers like PCMW, Eurocom, Kobalt, etc are already offering the chip in the 9262. Clevo needs to take care of their constituents (users of this forum, etc. ) by providing weekly updates on the status of their progress with this chip.
     
  15. Shyster1

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    It's painful to have to wait in the dark, but, as the trite adage goes, patience is a virtue. This scenario has played itself out before, including the time that quads were first introduced to the 926x series, and no doubt will again in future. Clevo, I think, operates out of an abundance of caution, which is reasonable given that the backlash from letting out a hint that turns out to be wrong can be deadly - see the hoo-ha over the issue of whether or not the original 9260/1 would be able to take the 8800M (and that didn't even really involve any "hints" from Clevo).

    As well, the resellers like xoticpc and powernotebooks (and all the rest whose names I cannot remember right now as I'm still too sleepy :D , but you know who you are) who have the discipline and a sense of respect for their customers should be given some credit for not trying to use the building excitement amongst us here to try and hawk unproven and uncertified (by the manufacturer, that is) wares until the manufacturer has given its seal of approval - even if that manufacturer acts like a worry-wart sometimes.

    Good things come to those who wait (yeah, I know, that's trite, too, but it's still too early for me :D ).