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    Anybody here upgraded Clevo P370EM to GTX 970M or 980M?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by reborn2003, Feb 9, 2015.

  1. reborn2003

    reborn2003 THE CHIEF!

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    Hey All,

    I was just wondering if anybody here has upgraded their Clevo P370EM to a GTX 970M or the GTX 980M GPU?

    If so did you have to change or upgrade the GPU heatsink or did you just use the current original one?
    Was it just plug and play and which system bios are you using?

    Thanks. :)
     
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    I would keep your em heatsink and get some fresh pads as it's a good arrangement for the 9xx series.
     
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    i am currently running two 980m in sli on my p370em you can use the original heatsinks (i used to have 7970m crossfire) you can also use the heatsinks it comes with but the second card heatsink wont fit with the stock 370em cpu heatsink. the 1st card heatsink will require you to clip a little plastic off from the bottom cover but it was super easy to do anyway.

    im using prema bios on mobo and prema bios on both gpus
     
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    I'd stick with the original heatsinks and do the pads as it's a good thermal balance for the system.
     
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    My slave gpu on the original heatsink reaches 88c after playing battlefield 4 for awhile on the original heatsink. ill have to trying reapllying the paste as soon as i get some more ic diamond. sux i cant even complete a firestrike test as my slave gpu reaches that 89c not even 1 min into the test. maybe ill just order a p377 cpu heatsink and trying that config
     
  7. n=1

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    I wonder how much extra OC you can squeeze out with that tripe pipe CPU heatsink. IIRC my own testing showed it improved temps by 8-10C, so could probably wring out another 200MHz I suppose.

    And if you use the EM's CPU heatsink + slave GPU heatsink in the SM, you might finally be able to max out the OC bins on the 4900MQ (4.2GHz) for daily usage provided you use Liquid Ultra paste.
     
  8. D2 Ultima

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    Well with max fans you should be able to get even more. If you get 90 deg on auto fans at 4GHz under heavy load, max fans would be ~80-82 degrees or so, and the extra heatsink should top that out nearer to 75 degrees. I'd say 4.2GHz would be easy with that setup. Especially in a cooler environment; but it depends on voltage a lot I'd say. A bottom barrel CPU will be terrible.
    I think something is wrong there indeed. I know the slave got decently hot in that machine, but even so; it shouldn't hit THAT high. My master GPU gets hotter than my slave here, and even with a solid +209MHz core OC and +500MHz memory OC on both cards I never cross ~83 in firestrike on my master, and my slave? HA. That thing barely passes 72. And my cards are hotter than yours. So something is definitely wrong there; even swapping heatsinks right now should make my slave be as hot as my master gets, but that's still within thermal headroom.
     
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    Yes it's a poorly fitting heatsink most likely compounded by the lesser cooling as standard.
     
  10. reborn2003

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    Cool just finished putting together the parts and installed the OS.
    Anybody know a good site for me to dl the latest drivers and System bios.
    I wanted to make sure I'm fully up to date before testing out Prema's goodies. :vbthumbsup:

    Cheers. :)
     
  11. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    For the latest BIOS you will want to email your original reseller, they can email it to you.
    They should also host the latest drivers, or you can use Sagers http://www.sagernotebook.com/drivers.php?cat=566
     
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    Yep, use sager's then only update everything but the GPU drivers unless you have issues, go to nvidia.com for the latest GPU drivers.
     
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    It seems they have nothing BIOS related on that page for the P370EM / NP9370. Maybe we should mail them directly to see if they have any BIOS update?
     
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    Right they do not post any BIOS, you want to email your original reseller to request one. That page only has drivers/utilities.
     
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    as for other drivers / utilities, i can always recommend station-drivers.com :)

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    Hi mate, I have a clevo p370em with 7970m crossfire, same as you had, and i´m thinking about upgrading to two 980 sli such as you did, and I was wondering where you purchased your cards. Thanks
     
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    Thanks buddy ;) I´m checking it out, I see that the P370EM is not in the laptop model selection tab but I´m guessing it should be the P377SM 1st and 2nd video card with and SLI cable included am I correct? Don´t want to order the wrong model. Any tips on the assembly os the cards that I sould know or is it just swap and install the prema bios?
     
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    That's correct. The cards will fit. You need to install Prema bios FIRST or you won't POST.
     
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    yeah i got both cards and sli cable from rjtech. i bought the ones for the p377sm-a. do note that i was never able to get my slave gpu to stop overheating on the stock heatsink that came with my p370em. I had to also order the p377sm-a cpu heatsink as well so i could use the heatsink that came with the gpu.

    the cheapest i was able to find for the cpu heatsink was directly from sager. i promised i wouldnt say how much i paid for it and ill keep that promise but it was cheaper then from rjtech.
     
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    Thanks a lot for the tips folks, 1st clevo laptop and I never tinkered with bios or anything of the sort, so I got to make some research and ask for advise before doing it. And btw should I install the prema bios while using the Amd7970 and then swap to the 980m ?I'm not clear on that part. I'm gonna pull the trigger on 2 Gtx980m + sli cable today. Wish me luck.
     
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    What? You couldn't stop maxwell from overheating? That's... weird. Very weird. How much cooler does your card run with the SM-A heatsink instead of the EM heatsink? Seems to me like something was quicker wrong with your EM heatsink O_O
     
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    It could be a heatpipe having an issue yes.
     
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    My slave card idles around 33c and maxes out at about 81c (highest ive ever seen it hit on auto fans) with the sm-a heatsink. on the em heatsink it would idle at a slightly higher 36c but hit the throttle 87c (prema bios v1) in about 20 seconds or less running 3dmark firestorm. the heatsink seemed to be fine as it would get extremely hot from the gpu all the way down the heatpipe to the tiny fins the em heatsink had for the gpu die. I think its because the sm-a heatsink is a solid peice and is not split up like the em heatsink. the cpu even though i lost the 3rd heatpipe it still runs at the same temps while maxing the turbo clock (on games anyway)
     
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    Yeah, that is indeed abnormal behaviour for the CPU. The EM heatsink should have been MUCH better for cooling your CPU, and if you thermal throttle at 87c on max fans on your slave GPU, then that's too hot. Even 81c on auto fans seems a bit hot too, honestly. Those cards are so ridiculously cool it's a joke. What thermal paste are you using?

    For the record, my default SM heatsink for my slave card on my 780M? Only way I hit 80 degrees is if I run furmark, and even then, 82c is the max I hit.
     
  26. InfectedSonic

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    the 81c is just the highest ive ever seen but it usually stays around 74-78c max while gaming something that pushes the gpu.
    ive got no issue with the cpu heating it runs the same temps with sm-a heatsink as the em heatsink.(which i found surprising as i thought it would run hotter)
    im using icdiamond thermal paste.
     
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    Yeah your EM heatsink is broken. Generally it's a 10c drop with the EM heatsink on the CPU. Sorry man. Maybe try lapping the heatsinks?
     
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    I would get a new heatsink.. Also upgrade the CPU... The 3630QM will bottleneck your 980M SLI lol.. Getting something like a 3920XM/3940XM..
     
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    I'd grab one of the newly designed primary card heatsinks if you can stretch to it too.
     
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    Hey folks, I finally got two gtx 980m sli in my p370em. Had the seller do the instalation of the cards and the prema bios. It's working but I'm only getting around 5750 in 3dmark firestrike , I think that's way to low for two 980m. What scores are you getting in firestrike please?
     
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    Not a bad score at all IS :D Check SLI is enabled and use GPU-Z monitoring to check loads/clocks.
     
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    Sli is enabled for sure, I already checked that out, I'll install gpu-z and monitor the loads. One thing that I found strange is in FS the gpu Temps max at around 60°c. Maybe the cards are underclocked
     
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    Posting the compare link also helps :)
     
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    My 7970m CF had better scores than this, wtf is wrong?
     
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    Make sure you are set to high performance in the power profile, also that you are plugged in. Your single result GPU score is ok, but everything else is low.
     
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    Hi all,

    First time posting on this site, but this seems to be the only forum post on the subject. Currently I own a P370EM with a single 680m (bought back in Mar '13) & an i7-3630QM, and I'm looking to upgrade the GPU. My understanding is that the chipset doesn't like the 7XXm or 8XXm series, but with a prema bios it'll accept a 970m / 980m.

    Here are some of my concerns:

    I've never installed / flashed a new bios with the exception of microcontrollers. I believe I'd need the prema bios versions for the P9370EM as well as whichever GPU card. If I understand correctly, flashing the GPU via windows is done through the device manager window, but I'm not sure how to update the bios for the chipset on the mobo (assuming that is what needs to be flashed for the 9XXm GPUs to work)

    My goal is to etch out a few more years w/ this system, and figured the best way would be the GPU route. Am I correct in this understanding, or should I just save the pennies and go for a new laptop all together? ($500 - $750 for the GPU vs $2k+ for a new laptop, minus whatever I'd get after selling the 680m, presuming the new GPU works)

    Is it completely silly to entertain the idea of putting a new GPU in the slave slot and keeping the 680m where it is, sli or not?

    I'd be happy to post more specs on the laptop if needed. This is completely uncharted territory for me, and thanks in advance!
     
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    Sell your 680 and buy one or two 980s. This setup will last you years.

    I'm going back and forth upgrading from 680 SLI to 980 SLI or not. Right now I'm waiting what GTX 990 brings to the table and making a decision after that.
     
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    The GPU is flashed via NVflash in windows, it's not through device manager, the 9xx did require the device to be disabled for flashing, just the latest NVflash does it automatically.
     
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    I have a NP9370 and I upgraded from 680M SLI to 980M SLI. Everything fit perfectly, but the bios doesn't show any video cards and the System Properties shows the video cards as, "Microsoft Basic Display Adapter". 'm also unable to install the correct video drivers from NVidia. I'm using Win 10 64-bit.

    Is there a Bios flash that I can get to fix this?
     
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    You need to install drivers using modded .inf file from laptopvideo2go.com. It's not very difficult:
    1. Go to laptopvideo2go.com
    2. Click "Drivers" tab
    3. Go to Device Manager -> Display Adapters -> "Properties" of any GTX980M -> "Details" tab
    4. Select "Hardware Ids" from the drop-down menu
    5. Copy required values from "Hardware Ids" to laptopvideo2go "Search terms" field
    6. Set other search parameters at laptopvideo2go, as desired
    7. Click on "Filter"
    8. Download latest modded .inf file from laptopvideo2go.com and the latest NVidia driver
    9. Unpack the driver
    10. Copy (or replace) the modded .inf file into the folder, where you unpacked the driver
    11. Run the driver installer
    12. Reboot
    13. Enjoy :)

    PS.
    Don't worry about the BIOS.
     
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    kMaN_(KYA) Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks for the info on installing the driver. Has anyone used Prema's bios for the 9370?
     
  44. kMaN_(KYA)

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    I tried this a couple of times, running as admin and turning DSE off and it still gives me the "NVidia Installer Failed" error. :(

    I would like to try Prema's mod, but I don't know which version to download or really how to flash the bios or vbios. :(
     
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    Prema's BIOS here:
    https://biosmods.wordpress.com/p370emx/

    Prema's vBIOS here:
    https://biosmods.wordpress.com/gtx9/

    Make sure you read all readme files. It's all well explained there, all you will have to do is just running a couple of batch files. If anything more complicated is required, step-by-step instructions are given. Prema is a True Professional.
     
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    Does Prema's bios mod allow the 980's to be seen in the bios?

    Thanks for the help. I'll see if I can find all of the instructions for Prema's bios and vbios flashing.

    I'm confused on which bios version I need. I don't know what 2T means.
     
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    Is this still true? Right now, I have both of my 980Ms installed. Do I need to reinstall my 680Ms before updating the bios?
     
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    You need to install one of the 680M cards into the primary slot so you can boot the machine.
     
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    It actually updated and booted without having a 680M in the primary slot. Maybe that was a change with the v3 bios?
     
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    Hello

    I have a P370em with prema Bios and want to change my gtx 670m sli to one single 980m.

    But I want not work. I get no signal but the. Display is on but black.

    Any ideas?
     
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