Anyone got a Sager NP8454 or A Clevo PB51RF

Im in the market for a new laptop. I was originally looking at the MSI Creator P65 but the Sagee NP8454 popped up. I'm wondering if anyone has either the Sager or the Clevo equivalent. Would love to get some feedback on the build, quality and performance of the laptop.

Another question is to see if this laptop is being shipped with Prema Bios or not. I see that Xotic Pc is listed as a Prema partner on their website.

 

No prema bios I am aware of.

Basically the 83xx series but with a 4k oled panel and no dedicated GPU mode/g-sync on the internal panel as only the igp can deal with brightness control.

 

If there is no Perma Bios available for it then I guess I can get it from Gentech or Xotic PC. Maybe you can guide me to who would offer a better price for the machine. I'm considering it over the Creator for the 4k OLED screen

 

Both of them are long term partners with us so check their websites but it's the same base machine from us.

 

Excellent! Thank you so much!

 

No problem, enjoy

 

GenTech all the way. They are offering $200-300 in upgrades for free.

 

I just looked and they are offering the thermal application and some other stuff as per of a sale. Consider me sold.

 

I just ordered mine, I'm super stoked. I paid for the upgrade to the i9 processor, which no one else is letting you do right now.

Send a message to [email protected] and let him know Taylor / [email protected] referred you. I'm sure he'll appreciate it and give a little extra TLC. Definitely go for the Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut on everything.

 

I don't see the I9 option on their website. How much is the difference from i7 to I9. Might as well create a master race 4k OLED laptop

 

Not sure why it isnt there. I would message Ken!

 

Already sent him an email. Thanks!

 

The CPU change is significant. The i7 is 6-core and the i9-9980HK is 8-core/16t and unlocked.

It's a pretty big jump if you have heavily multi-threaded workloads. I got mine from Metabox (Australia).

 

Less important for tasks like gaming.

 

Indeed. I'd say for gaming it may even be a bit worse than the regular 9750H without some tuning.

Due to the extra cores it's almost impossible to to reasonably configure the 2/3-core turbo. Even then, the Windows scheduler will throw processes at every core which means the lower core-count turbo parameters almost never trigger. That being said, for most games you don't really even need those super high turbos and for the very few games that are extremely CPU heavy (e.g. Watch Dogs 1/2 and Assassins Creed Origins/Odyssey) they also happen to be very multi-threaded so they'll spread their CPU load across all cores nicely, thus allowing them to perform well at a lower turbo.

 

Not gonna lie this one has my attention. Is this a full rtx 2070? I know some manufacturers don't let you know it's max-q on the product pages. So just double checking.

 

Yes it's the "full" 2070. Average clocks are anywhere from 1500mhz->1600mhz in most games.

 

It's the full mobile one.

 

From what Ive read and gathered so far it's the full version which makes this an excellent deal compared to anything on the market right now. I know that Razer just announced their Oled 4k touch with a 2080 max-q (which I believe equals a 2060) will be available next week but that thing is 3k plus

 

Max-q 2080 performance really depends on the TDP, there is a wide range of settings.

 

Can anyone confirm if the OLED panel in these units is a touch screen or not? My current laptop has a touch panel and now I am spoiled.

 

It's non touch. Razer 15 is coming out at the end of the month with 4k OLED touch

 

Dang. Not at all interested in Razer either. Oh well, thanks!

 

There is generally not enough interest in touch to justify the cost.

 

Finding a 'Full-P' 2070 was a priority of mine when shopping. I initially bought an Aorus 15 X9 because of the Full-P and 280W AC adapter. However, thermals were very poor and I had several other issues which deemed a return/refund. Thankfully landed on the model I have now and even with a 230W adapter it far exceeds the 3DMark benchmark scores the Aorus achieved. Also the keyboard is 200% better!

 

The power adapter is only one part of the power chain after all

 

Hi, I'm really interested in the PB51RF too. Unfortunately, I'm in Europe (do you have any reseller to recommend ? My current Clevo P170SM-A is from mysn.de (their Schenker brand) but they do not offer options like thermal paste + it seems that there have been some issues with customer service lately concerning MoBo problems).

I've considered The P65 Creator too liike the OP (but no possibility to customize in EU), but also the new XPS 15 7590 (QC is not optimal according to the discord of the r/laptop community), the new and not available yet Thinkpad X1 Extreme Gen 2 (only a 1650 Max-Q) and P53 (no consumer GPU, only Quadro) and ultimately the Legion Y740 (poor battery life). Concerning the Razer Blade, I've had some issues with Razer in the past, and I can't configure it a lot.

I couldn't bear my P170SM-A anymore due to the noise (it has been cleaned up frequently, temps seems to be normal), its weight and the battery life which is now an issue as my use is now far more mobile than before. I know that concerning the weight the PB51RF is far more lighter. But I couldn't find any feedback concerning the noise / the battery life. Any intel on this ?

Thanks

 

I just got mine yesterday and it is very light. Compared to my alienware 15, the Clevo is much easier to move around and work with and the OLED screen is gorgeous. I'm looking into how to fully calibrate it but the computer is well worth the investment.

 

OLED really does pop

 

Thanks @Sabs47

Anyone knows the difference(s) between the PB50RF / PB51RF ? Can't find any on the official Clevo website except maybe the backlit RGB keyboard which isn't listed, it's just wat I see from the photos. I'm afraid to miss something important, like a better heatsink, or whatever internal and not usually listed.

 

The difference between PB50 and PB51 is just visual. The 50 has an orange strip whereas the 51 is all black.

However, there's also the RF1 variations. The "1" after the main model number usually denotes a hardware variation.

That being said, I don't know what the RF1 difference is. Of all the options available (CPU, GPU, Thunderbolt3, Fingerprint reader), all of them are available in appear to be on both variations.
Personally I've got the PB51RF-G and it has every upgraded option available.

 

Difference would be the OLED screen. Personally, I looked at both of them and decided with the PB51RF. I dont have a problem with the OLED screen being restricted. Im a beginner in photography so the OLED really helps. I would suggest that if you buy it from one of the websites, have them calibrate the screen. So far with 2 days working on the computer, I'm a happy customer.

 

The OLED is also restricted to optimus mode only.

 

@Sabs47 In terms of noise and battery, could you give your feedback please ? There seems to be very little feedback on the internet.

 

Noise is very acceptable so far. I had liquid metal applied and so far I haven't really pushed it to see how loud it gets as far as battery is concerned it's at 3 hrs. OLED screen just eats up the battery so that is something to look at.

 

Noise should be identical to the other PB series machines.