Anyone not have a problem with P150EM+7970m?

Srikar you are really not helping here. It doesn't matter if it's "PLAYABLE." Bioshock was "playable" at 15FPS on my crappy desktop. When you upgrade, it is EXPECTED to get better performance. You pay money, you get better performance. I upgraded my video card and bam, 50+ FPS in Bioshock.

So, 6990m owners had a set amount of power with their GPU. Many of them payed MONEY to upgrade to the 7970m. Guess what: the 6990m can beat a 7970m when the 7970m is in Enduro mode. It doesn't matter if the 7970m still gives "playable" performance. If we just wanted "playable" performance we wouldn't be buying TOP OF THE LINE GAMING LAPTOPS FOR $2000, and surely would not be upgrading to the 7970m. The problem is that many did and had no idea about the problem, because apparently either no one cared enough to let us know before purchasing or the bug was just never caught. Now, I assume 7970m sales have dropped, and that the GTX 675m and 680m are dominating the market.

By the way Srikar, every post you put up has showed more and more how much of an a-hole you are. I can't believe what I am reading. WoW is an EXTREMELY popular game. Battlefield 3 is an EXTREMELY popular game. GTA IV is an extremely popular game. Crysis is an extremely popular game. I can go on. They are ALL affected. Stop posting, seriously, since you seem to show no respect for reason and have no understanding of the situation.

 

I need to agree with Trantalocked on his statement. I dont say that games are unplaplayeble at 30 fps. but I payed for more and I upgraded, thats the point if i would want playeble fps i would get a notebook for 800 E with a gt 650m. And as somebody said that this card is garbage with endoro I also agree with them. I bought it mostly for bf 3 multy, I really love that game and wanted to experience it on better graphics, And what I get good performance only on LOW and close wuarters maps with a small amounth of players.. Yes metro and alan wake is polayeble perfect but I wont play it throught again as I already did.
In conclusion the perfoirmance is really garbage as I play bf3, crysis 2, shift 2 and f1 2011. All are UNPLAYEBLE for me as 20 ish fps isnt good. Recently bought sleeping dogs for 40 euros and I'm getting beutiffle 15 fps on open areas. Now tell my again, shouldnt I feel like its a crap ??? and I wasted money ??

 

Am I the a-hole or are the handful of people spamming the Sager boards day after day about how much of a disaster this card is the a-holes? We know Enduro has problems. Whining about it non-stop doesn't solve the issue. AMD already knows about it, Sager already knows about it, Clevo already knows about it, and I'm sure Intel already knows about it. Saying the card is garbage in every thread doesn't help.

When I say the word "playable," I'm talking 30+ FPS, not 15. I wonder, do you refuse to buy games that are locked into 30FPS? Yeah, some games are affected with Enduro, but a lot aren't as well. Some of the games effected by it aren't even that bad. You get dips into the mid 30's which is perfectly playable without stutter. It's an issue, but it is not as severe as some posters make it out to be. You act as if it's worthless and can't do anything.

 

Ferrous Cranus

 

Yes! This is true, too. I play Hard Reset, and the FPS rate falls to 10!
This is not acceptable to me, and I will not accept Public Relations spin as to why AMD isn't responsible for something THEY GOOFED UP on. They FAILED to do enough R&D testing on this, and they ARE responsible for this mess that they created.

One more thing- yes, AMD IS keeping silent on this, and their silence is deafening, which is further proof that they know about this, but will NOT fix their screw-up, and will just stick their collective heads in the sand and hope that after a year or so of this nonsense, that people will just give up trying for an Enduro fix and patch, and just move on and hope that people will get entranced and enthralled with their next GPU release, when they roll out their new 8000 series GPU in March of next year (of which I hope NOBODY buys).

I have a feeling that once this groundswell of negative news continues to barrage AMD's press and financial bottom-line (hint: people will no longer be customers of theirs, and permanently switch to Nvidia), they WILL have to listen to what their potential FORMER customers have to say and take notice...

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Sell our new laptops? This is far easier said than done, due to the second Great Depression that we are in economically. There few people that will want to try to buy, or can actually afford a $2,000 laptop.
I would LOVE to sell mine to whomever I could, but I would have to sell mine at a huge loss, and then buy a new Clevo with the 680M in it, for the current price of over $2200 dollars.
Not speaking for others, but I CANNOT even remotely afford this $2200 price tag at all. I have spent all of the money that I had saved for this, and bought it because of the lower 7970M price tag, which is a decision that was stupid for me (and the rest of us as well), and one that I totally regret doing.
If I could even sell my 2 month old 7970M Sager for $1400 I would do so in a heartbeat, but I would find no takers anywhere for it, though, so I am stuck, just like everyone else here...
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What laptop do you own? What are the specs of it?
You say that it runs better than the 7970M and with no problems?
It would appear that you have an Nvidia-based GPU laptop, and avoided an AMD. You are one lucky person.
Pity that we aren't so lucky.
I wish that I had a time machine, and could go back and change my order to Nvidia instead....
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Yes, Sager said that they WOULD swap out the cards to the 680M, however, they also said that it would be $695 for the card and labor, PLUS the cost of TWO WAY SHIPPING, which would total out to be around $800 dollars.
This is a real deal-killer for me, and one that I simply CANNOT afford, because I have no money left to spend on this.
That is their quote- price of the card, plus labor costs, plus the cost of two way shipping that I would also have to pay for.
I didn't ask them for a downgrade, because I don't want a card that is worse than the 680M, which is what I want now. Even if I did downgrade to the 675M ( or rebranded 580M as it should be called), I would still have to pay a lot of money for labor costs and two way shipping, and that would probably be around $400 dollars, which is still far too much for me to pay financially.
It's not much of a solution either- to downgrade for an extra $400 dollars for the 675M/580M, and get worse game play on many games.

It's really no bargain for me at this point.

I am stuck now- as are the rest of us, with a defective AMD 7970M GPU that it's maker doesn't want to admit it's error and fix.

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Could you tell us more about your experience with requesting an upgrade? How did Sager justify that exorbitant upgrade fee for a defective product? Did they claim this is entirely AMD's problem and they (Sager) have no responsibility to fix it? That doesn't cut it for me. I wonder if contacting the Better Business Bureau would get us anywhere. Probably not, but I would be willing to pay the (~$300) upgrade fee for a 680M. That would be my first "Shut up and take my money" moment in quite some time.

 

Yes, I wholeheartedly agree with you. There are quite a few games out there that DO suffer a great deal from low FPS rates, and far more than two games, as has been said here.
I play quite a few other games that are NOT mentioned here, and I am getting quite often around 10 FPS rates with my 7970M!
Yes, that's right- 10.

I paid $2,000 US dollars for this Sager Laptop with a so-called "high end" GPU that is NOT running games any better (or in many cases- far worse) than GPU's that are 3 years old.
I am not getting what I paid for.

I once had a Sager with an Nvidia 7800M GTX GPU that was once the top of the line Nvidia mobile GPUs 4 years ago, and it was flawless in the games I played, and I NEVER got below 40 FPS in Crysis, nor any other game that I played on it. Great GPU, and I wish that I still had it today.

Sorry, but no one here spent a great deal of money buying a high-end 7970M gaming laptop to get sub-par and mediocre results.

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I first contacted my Laptop reseller, and they then sent me an RMA request and to Sager for THEIR okay to do the work and to first let me know how much it was going to be price-wise.
They (the laptop reseller I bought it from) responded back to me that Sager WILL accept my laptop for upgrading to the 680M, BUT it will cost me $695 US dollars for parts and labor, and THEN I would have to pay around $110 for shipping for each way- meaning that I would have to pay for shipping to Sager, and back to me.
Sager refused to be charged for shipping in either way, so I would have to pay the cost on that one, too.
So, my final price would be $800 to get a new 680M card put in.

Not only that, but Sager was very snooty ( rude) in their attitude about my reasons for wanting to swap out my 7970M for the Nvidia 680M. I explained the reasons in detail, and told them that I simply cannot afford that kind of outrageous price. For that $800 dollars that they wanted, I could put a down payment on a brand new laptop from somewhere else.
Sager said that my reasons were wholly unjustified in wanting to get rid of my 7970M GPU, because in their words, there's NOTHING WRONG with it!
Yes, folks, Sager says that there is " NOTHING WRONG" with the 7970M GPU, and because (in their words) it's NOT defective, I cannot get a replacement upgrade for it via warranty.

"Nothing wrong with it"?

Seriously?

Whom are they trying to kid here?

Obviously, it's not me.

This is further proof and evidence that AMD has no plans to find a fix and solution to this Enduro nonsense, and that Sager thinks that all is well and rosy in the world.

Well, it's a foregone conclusion that I am in the future no longer a Sager customer, and that from now on, I will just go somewhere else than Sager and AMD where I won't be treated rudely, and I can get a better Nvidia gaming laptop that doesn't use a defective AMD product.

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There you have it, Sager says there is nothing wrong with the 7970m. Now that we have been lied to, it is now time for me to throw my laptop in a fire.

Sager, no, I am never buying from them again. I don't care if the next model is perfect; I do not tolerate blatant lying such as this. A pity, really.

I do think Sager may have one reason to get around this: the 7970m chip itself isn't defective, but every thing else that the 7970m needs is. In this case, either the entire video setup is defective or the drivers are defective, "technically." The 7970m still performs like a defective card, which in my opinion makes it defective.

 

I could get 60fps in DX9 mode with a radeon 4870m, but I didnt buy top of the end card to play at medium settings. Also my 6970m played Batman AC at around 40fps with DX11 turned on.

 

My laptop is in my sig. I have a modified MSI GX660 laptop that was released in 2010. I've upgraded it to a 6990m, and now have a 7970m in it.

I was simply pointing out that its kinda a shame that your guys newer laptops run worse than my laptop from 2010. The 7970m is a great card if you don't have the issues of Enduro. I can't use Enduro due to my laptop not supporting it.

What does Sager say the price of the 680m is if you ship the laptop back without the 7970m? Surely $800 is not the price of the card with them also keeping your old 7970m. I suggest you find out that bit of information. You could potentially sell your 7970m on here for around 400-500$ and then shell out the difference to have Sager upgrade your laptop to a 680m. This would help you alleviate some of the costs.

 

Ok. So first Sager admits there is a problem with the card, tries to solve it. Then AMD comes along and tells them to shut up and probably threaten them with a lawsuit or something.

And suddenly, what do you know, there is no longer a problem with the cards. Will most likely join this mass exodus to the green team. Unbelieavable... At least I can make the switch for a 350€.

 

I disagree. I know it all looks hopeless at the moment regarding AMD and Sager's lack of effort in fixing this problem publicly but I think this is why we need to step up the tempo and take this thing to a reputable tech blogger as other people here have mentioned in the past. Maybe that would put the pressure on them.

 

LOL so funny to read all the replies here. People cheering people up and telling each other "that everything will be ok".

Its like buying a cheap light bulb or a LED and go back to the store to complain because the product died after a week when you know deep down inside that you get what you paid for.

Stop buying crappy AMD products manufactured by a company WELL KNOWN for being amateurs with driver support. Especially when you know Nvidia is 100x better with their drivers.
Just look at the past 2 months, almost none threads with 680M problems but many with news about new drivers released from Nvidia with many game optimizations with FPS boost.

In before angry 7970M owners. Well I don`t care. Its the truth.

 

Where I come from it's only the effeminate men that gloat at other people's misfortunes. I don't see how your post achieves anything, apart from relaying to us that you're ecstatic other people are screwed over. Either contribute or put a lid on it, your high post count and green e-peen do not necessitate that we think you're funny or insightful when you post crap like that.

Back to telling blogger: How about Anandtech and Tomshardware? Would they be up for it? They posted an article on the 7970M and 680M when they first came out.

 

Anandtech already knows about it. From their iBuyPower Valkyrie review (675M):

User commented:

Anandtech replied:

This was written 21 August and since no article or comments was released after I guess he didn`t get the answers he was looking for.

Link: AnandTech - iBuyPower Valkyrie CZ-17 Notebook Review: MSI and iBuyPower Tangle With Alienware

 

except that in a laptop that does not support enduro 7970m is a far better buy than 680m... your flawed analogy just highlights how much of a loser fanboi you've become.

 

Its not like Nvidia has a good driver support, just better than AMD's. When DA2 was released it was totally unplayable with my 580 gtx. Took them well over a month to fix the issue. Been following Nvidia's driver forums for a long time, and people there complain as much as those in the AMD forums, saying they will switch to the red team. Still, if the cards had been within 100€ price range, it would have been a nobrainer to go with the 680m.

 

Oh hello angry 7970M owner. Maybe when you grow up you are able to present your points better and more mature.

Well yeah, I`m not saying Nvidia doesn`t have issues as well (they do here and there). But not as broad as the Enduro problems, and its not anything as serious.
Plus they get actually fixed after a month or so. Its been 4 months since AMD released 7970M ( rushed is more accurate word) and you still haven`t got anything fixed yet.

What have they done instead? Worked with Clevo to fix their major flawed Enduro, but no relief. Instead they deleted the thread here at NBR from AMDs request. What about the thread you guys made in the AMD forum? Deleted as well. Swept under the carpet to hide from the public. Clevo themselves say there is nothing wrong with their product, probably forced to say it because of AMD pressuring them to keep it a secret.

Good job AMD :thumbsup:

 

Perhaps, there is an explanation of the problem?
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Laptop Video Cards :: ATI HD 7970M 2GB Mobile Video Card - R&J Technology, Clevo Barebone Notebook kits, Laptop and desktop system builder

 

Can anyone with problems check their MB version to see if its below 6.2 (haven't got a screwdriver at hand).

If the problem is in the motherboard (which I highly doubt), the resellers will have to switch all the affected motherboards.

 

Cloudfire, if for no other reason, please go away with your gloating and enjoy your 680m. Surely you have better things to do than to come on to these threads and bait people like this. It's immature not helping anyone at all.

 

Wait, the 7970m thread on the AMD gaming forum was deleted?

AMD Game Forums - The Clevo 7970M Enduro/under-utilization debacle.

I don't think so.

 

Dont worry, if Couldfire said it then you can be sure there will be twisted facts or just straight up bs in that post.

 

Maybe you should try to keep yourself updated more arcticjoe:

I only repeated what many here have said (7970M owners): Someone posted a link to AMD forum and it said "No threads could be found" or something when you clicked on it. So it looks like the thread is still there, but no solution, 7 days more and its a whole month since AMD acknowledged the problem in the AMD forum

 

What's your point? AMD sucked bad with this Enduro issue? Yes we've been saying it non-stop for hundreds of posts so take your meds and leave us be.

 

NeoCzar, who are you talking to?

 

Cloudfire obviously.

 

Sadly, you are right about this, and we as now former AMD customers have learned the hard AND very expensive way about this, too.

What's even WORSE, was that I was TOLD before buying this laptop from a friend who works for a competing Laptop reseller that whatever I did, he said "do NOT get the AMD card, because you won't be happy". He also said that "AMD has hardware problems AND driver problems, so stay away!"

I should have listened to him, but I didn't, because I was suckered into buying the AMD all because of the lower cost, and now he is right- I AM unhappy, and the cost of replacing the 7970M for the 680M is GREATER than it would have been if I had just selected the Nvidia 680M from the very beginning.
How ironic.
Also, how very depressing for me and everyone else who fell for this scam.

I guess this goes along with the old saying of "Penny wise, pound foolish", because I "saved" $300 dollars in getting the 7970M, but it ended actually costing me $800 more instead.
Well, there's also one more saying to remember: "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me".
But this next time, I don't intend to make that same mistake twice with AMD any more.

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You took the words right out of my mouth- AMD is not going to do anything to fix this, and they will just pretend everything's great, and that everyone is happy, so no fix is required by them.
Yes, AMD is deleting threads, pressuring resellers into silence and non-disclosure agreements, so that they can continue to fool and scam not only current customers, but potential future customers as well.
They have Sager telling me that nothing's wrong with my 7970M, despite the 10 FPS frame rates that I experience in my games, and lousy performance that everyone else is getting, too.
Since AMD isn't going to do anything to fix THEIR problem and make THEIR customers happy about this, then WE need to show them OUR displeasure, and switch to Nvidia from now on. That is the only way this will get their attention- when they have no customers left.
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Well yeah, I`m not saying Nvidia doesn`t have issues as well (they do here and there). But not as broad as the Enduro problems, and its not anything as serious.
Plus they get actually fixed after a month or so. Its been 4 months since AMD released 7970M ( rushed is more accurate word) and you still haven`t got anything fixed yet.

What have they done instead? Worked with Clevo to fix their major flawed Enduro, but no relief. Instead they deleted the thread here at NBR from AMDs request. What about the thread you guys made in the AMD forum? Deleted as well. Swept under the carpet to hide from the public. Clevo themselves say there is nothing wrong with their product, probably forced to say it because of AMD pressuring them to keep it a secret.

Good job AMD :thumbsup:[/QUOTE]

 

First post here registered just to pull out my anger toward AMD

well I had no choice at that time I bought my 7970m. 680m was just around the corner but was rumoured to be really weak... I was aware of the BAD DRIVER support from AMD but only to an extent it would be faults in some optimisation in games that would be fixed a few months later...

But now? if I had the opportunity to I would have thrown this piece of **** at AMD's face(ofcourse leaving my laptop to upgrade to NVIDIA).

I'm probably worse than cloudfire now as Nvidia's fanboi in avoiding people from buying AMD's trash lol.

Don't care if AMD fixes this thing now.(also I can't understand how some are still so optimistic and passive about this) I've wasted 2 months wrestling with this and I'm sick of it. Sick of even looking at CCC page to set games at high performace setting just to realise it ain't performing at "high performance".

I'll always buy Nvida's graphics for now. CPU wise AMD is already **** so don't care:laugh:

@Cloudfire. Dont be so mocking . as an angry 7970m user it really hurts. we know how idiotic and hopeless AMD is now. just feel sorry for us man. And please actively take part ranting about AMD's rubbishness so that people don't become like us.:thumbsup:

seriously is AMD the hidden biggest NVIDIA fanboi of all time???

 

I'm pretty ****ing annoyed as well but getting angry won't solve anything. If anything it only feeds Cloudfire's remarks lol. TBH it could be that as this problem affects all AMD cards in this type of setup, they are doing extensive testing on other 7000 cards as well to determine the root cause. This could be why we're not seeing much progress. Of course I could be completely wrong and AMD are just sitting on their hands.

 

I really doubt AMD are doing nothing. They've already lost it with mobile CPUs. I don't think they want to lose the mobile market completely, which will most definitely happen if they ignore this issue. I mean, look what's already happening.

 

Yeah true, this is what caveman-jim has just pointed out on the rage3D forum as well.

 

The post by caveman-jim makes sense. The 7970m is the flagship for mobile, and if they let the 680m take over like this, AMD will lose a ton of money. People who are looking to buy on a lower budget will come here and realize the 7970m doesn't perform like it should and default to the 675m. There goes more of the market to Nvidia, further screwing AMD. In fact, as an AMD fanboy, I am serious when I say I would have selected the GTX 675m and LATER upgraded to a working next gen card if I had known how bad things were with the 7970m. I feel bad about it, yes, but it makes economical sense. The 675m is still powerful and can handle today's games, and could easily take 2 years of gaming on low/medium settings until the next upgrade. Mix in the fact that this doesn't just affect the 7970m, but all 7000m cards, and there is more of a problem.

The particular sentence that states AMD has a fix in development made me excited for a bit, but I quickly muffled that excitement knowing that nothing is official yet. Even if it were true, who knows what stage of development the fix is in as caveman said. It could be weeks or months from now as far as we know.

One last positive word: if AMD, Clevo, Sager and Intel can come together and release a fix, we can all bask in new found glory!

 

I imagine they are keeping quiet due to all of the events coming up. More work for them organizing crap, might announce a fix in one of them.

 

The below quote was posted by Caveman on August 19. Since then, on the Rage3d forum, he has only stated he has not heard from anyone he knows/ contacts at AMD. So where did this "finalized" fix come in? Every response since then he has to people on that forum is "they are busy with this and that, they didn't respond again this week, etc.".

"They're waiting for internal validation of testing their performing on different options. Can't be very specific, don't want to say their testing a fix because they haven't said as much, but they're working on it." Caveman-Jim.

From the outside, it kind of looks like... Fish, meet hook, line and sinker. As an owner of both color cards, I know neither has a perfect record. But I also know silence often speaks very loudly. Perhaps his contact has been hushed? Who knows, but it has been 2 weeks since he stated AMD knows and is looking into the issue. Now he doesn't hear from them in 2 weeks, but there is a fix being "finalized". Or perhaps he is just blowing wind up everyone's skirt, playing big shot. I don't know, and hope for everyone that has the card he is honest, but I can't help being skeptical.

And the thread on the AMD forum was not deleted, but it was locked. Stay skeptical until you get some resolution folks. You paid for a top performing card, and it wasn't delivered. I don't know if it is all AMD, part AMD and part Clevo/Sager, but I do know the injured parties here are the consumers. Fortunately, I only followed because I am researching my next Lappy, but as of now, I am holding off buying anything until I see how this works out. I love my Sager, but will be handing it over to my youngest son for school soon. I will make my decision on a new laptop based on how this all works out and who is culpable in this. I still can't absolve Sager/Clevo since it is not clear to me if it is strictly hardware or if it is a software issue. All I know is right now, anyone that has this laptop and card is not getting what was advertised.

Good luck to all, but keep pushing for resolution.

 

It would be strange if it is a hardware issue, considering it doesn't surface in all games. I've just been playing the witcher 2 for the last few hours and that runs really well with utilisation staying in the 90s. I only partly agree about staying skeptical as this can also have its downsides, such as inducing panic in 7970m owners.

 

According to Futuremark hardware profiles, the 7970M is slightly more popular with a 1.13% market share and 0.96% for the 680M. I doubt that will stay the case for very long if this issue stays the same, and -more importantly- the 680M's price slides down.

 

i have a feeling that the root of this issue may be that enduro uses DMA to transfer data to and from IGP, which according to that nvidia Optimus paper that sha7bot posted earler would halt some rendering engines until the transfer is complete. This would explain why decreasing detail or increasing clocks does not help - engine pauses itself every fraction of the second to complete the transfer of image data to iGPU. My guess is that different rendering engines have different ways of handling this process, so some arent affected as much as others.

I've quoted the excerpt from that paper bellow:

 

Can a similar new DMA transfer method be developed through software, or is that based on special hardware?

Oh, new "hardware feature." I wonder if it is right to feel like we are all screwed.

Three possible scenarios:

1. AMD announces that a new software fix is being prepared as part of a joint effort with Clevo/Sager.
2. AMD announces that all 7000m chips were not prepared with the proper hardware feature that would allow proper performance. As a result, many 7970m owners downgrade to the 675m or upgrade to the 680m. (I know I would as long as I can get money back if I downgrade)
3. AMD nor Sager announce any thing official for a couple months. As a result, we all assume some thing is being hidden and many 7970m owners upgrade or downgrade to Nvidia.

 

Should this information also be posted at the Rage3d forum?

 

Seeing as Sager have already changed their stance from "this is a problem and is being investigated" to "there is no problem, we will charge $800 to swap your 7970m to 680m", and AMD have gone very quiet on the issue my guess is that this problem is hardware constrained, or maybe Optimus' method is patented and AMD cannot make use of it.
I have a feeling AMD and Sager will keep quiet until the end of the year, then new generation will be announced and AMD will officially stop caring.

 

Sadly I think that this is the case as well. In the beginning their reaction (both Sager/Clevo and AMD) was commensurate with a concerned OEM/ODM, they started their own logging thread here ..etc. Now all official recognition of the issue is gone apart from a tweet here and a "blogger who knows someone at AMD" there. And this is almost 5 months later.

There is absolutely no reason for them to stay this quiet and passive if they had a fix in the pipelines, it only hurts them and infuriates us.

So ... card is bugged, not working as advertised, and no one is doing or promising to do anything about it. What can we do? I'm not spending 800-900 dollars for an upgrade. That's half the laptop's price added to it allover again. No one will buy a second-hand 7970M from a -now infamous- p170em rig on eBay. I'd have to get lucky with someone I know, with an MXM 2.0b slot.

 

Demand a switch for a lower price. 800 dollars is hardly an appropriate price, and unless the consumer rights are THAT much crappier in the US, you should be able to put enough pressure on them to budge.

They sold you a defective product, and your situation must be remedied. And in the future, avoid such resellers that care nothing for their customers.

 

Part of the problem here, is that Sager says that there is no problem, and that is what they told me.
I also truly doubt that AMD feels any differently, either.
We have heard from some that they are "looking into it", and some even think that a solution is "just right around the corner".

Sorry, but I am not buying it.

Since the 7000 series has been out for 6 months now, AMD has had plenty and ample time to get a fix in with Enduro- (all the need to do, is create a software means in the bios to SHUT IT OFF!), but they haven't, and I am sticking to my suspicions that they won't.
This is not a problem with any Alienware laptop, and NBCheck.net has done all kinds of testing of Sager/Clevo/Schenker Laptops, along with the Alienware models, and they have seen this Enduro problem on non-Alienware laptops, and have reported on it, verified it, and thus published it as well.

IF I ever see this "fix", then call me shocked, stunned and surprised.
I am not a betting man, but I would be willing to bet that we don't or won't see any kind of Enduro fix for this before the end of the year, if not at all.

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I have a Multicom 150e notebook incoming next week. So I have been reading alot about the 7970m issues with the sager series. I sent a email to AMD onthe issue. I just registered to show you the response.