Anyone planning on the 5750?

Has anyone pre-ordered or is planning on ordering a 5750? I am extremely interested in this computer but am skeptical about the x1600 128mb GPU. Posts over on the Acer forum are not giving it the best reviews. It seems to me that it may have to do with Acer's crappy cooling system so there is hope for Sager's 5750.

Unless I hear an abundance of bad things about the 5750, I plan on ordering the upgraded NP5750-V with 2GB of System Ram and possibly upgrading the processor to a T2500 from a T2400. Anyone think the processor upgrade is worth it?

GO, 5750, GO!

TONGTONK

 

Hey Tongtonk, The CPU is only a 10% gain in performance that you most likely wont notice unless comparing bench marks. If you planning on the 2GB of Ram you will surely be utilizing the Hypermemory on the X1600 which will get you 512MB of VRAM.

The 5750 will be a awesome machine.

 

The NP5750 is a very nice machine, I agree. Regardless of what is said in the Acer forum, I wouldn't put 100% faith in it not because I don't think the posters are inaccurate, but because manufacturers clock video cards differently. I'd pay a lot more attention to the real world gaming scores than the benchmarks, because they are just that - benchmarks and nothing more.

Yessir, the RAM upgrade is definitely worth it over the CPU if you have to choose between them. I wouldn't go past a T2500, the T2600 is still too expensive to call a good price/performance.

 

After much deliberation I have decided to take the plunge and will be ordering the 5750 in the next few days. There have been many positive opinions thrown my way on this site and numerous others which helped me in my decision. I appreciate all the insights from everyone and will do my best to give everyone my impressions once it arrives.

Am I now the official charter member of the 5750 Pre-Order club? Will anyone else join the 5750 movement?

5750, the man's computer(or, the man who has a very limited amount of money and can't afford the 5760's computer).

TONGTONK

 

Start a NP5750 Lounge

There are a lot of these being sold for just the reason you suggest. The X1600 video card is a great card and will satisfy all but the most avid gamers at a much more affordable price

 

I am also thinking about the 5750. Its down to three now. Asus z96j, compal hel80, and the 5750. It seems odd that I can get the 17in wxga screen with a faster processor, and a dvi port at the same price of a 15.4in. Are there any down sides? Do the sagers have any weak spots? ie. Dell-build quality, HP - keyboard, apple- heat

 

There are already several "reviews" and "impressions" posted here about the NP5760, and the NP5750 is the same computer except with the X1600 video card [edit] and the WXGA matte screen [end of edit]. After reading them I think you will see there aren't many weak spots that anyone has mentioned.

 

That makes the decision harder. How much battery life would I expect to get with the 5750? Since it has the lesser video card and lower resolution screen, shouldn't it have more life?

 

The size of the screen is what kills the battery life. You an only expect about 2 to 2.5 hours from the NP5750.

It is true that it is very well priced!

 

ok

is this the case that the 5750 is the same thing with a x1600? It seems to have one other difference in that its a wxga screen as well.

ok in that case, in theory, if you could procure one, could you put a 7900 gtx in a 5750?

 

Even if you could...why would you want to mate the 7900 GTX with a WXGA screen?

Anyway, even if you wanted to you really couldn't because the thermal solution for the X1600 is not as strong as the 7900 GTX. If you want the 7900 GTX just get the NP5760

 

I agree with paladin44, you wouldnt want such a high end graphics card on a 1440x900 matte screen. You would need the 1680x1050 WSXGA or the 1920x1200 WUXGA to accompany the 7900GTX

 

are you guys kidding? What sort of credibility am i supposed to give this response.

Yes, everyone who would want to buy a 5750 would want to know if it were possible to put a 7900 gtx in it.

Right now they could run oblivian on the native resolution. Just that game on the shelf and a few others. But down the road, it would make the difference between buying another one or possible updating the card in this one.

All gpus come with their cooling system. Is there something you know about this that we dont? Would the gpu and its cooling system not fit? What are you saying, is there any relevant information in there?

Is the 5750 a 5760 with a x1600 installed or not?

Is it the cleve 590, with a x1600, is this 5750 a sager specific configuration?

 

I doubt it. People don't buy laptops and plan to upgrade the video card; most don't even know it is possible. Besides, after the cost of upgrading, you are better off with the 5760.

The GPU does not come with the cooling solution -as in, the fans. They are built into the laptop and not the card itself. So, that would be a big problem if the cooling system wasn't up to par and you had a video card as powerful as the Go7900GTX sitting in there.

Having a Go7900GTX, the most powerful mobile video card, coupled with a WXGA+ screen is a complete waste. There is no point to having such a relatively low-res screen paired with it.

 

ok

this is a ridiculous thought. that because it has a wxga screen it has no possible use for a 7900 gtx?

I cant even put to words to explain this to you. I feel i am burning calories speaking to the ridiculous.

within about 9 months, there will be a laptop with a gpu on the market thats wxga and twice the speed of a 7900 gtx.

ok within 3 years, there will be a laptop with wxga that has a gpu that is so much more powerful its dx 12 and runs 16 times the speed of a 7900 gtx.

the 7900 gtx is nothing, it is just whats fastest right now. you will within the life of the notebook need a much faster gpu than that to run the games on wxga.

 

ok im interested in knowing about this. is it a clevo 590 with a different cooling system then? I mean id be interested in knowing. I dont think you know...

Im practically certain that all gpus come with their own cooling. as in, a fan or a heatsink.

I have seen pictures of the gpus put in sagers. they have fans on them. So I contradict you. however I havent seen these two models yet so Im wondering.

the ones with fans im refering to are for the sager 9750 9880 series. Im actually going to look up a picture of one to a 5720 so I can have better information for you.

Odds are... the 5720 had a large heatsink like is in the dell e1705. no fan at all.

 

In 9 months, there will be no more DirextX 9 cards produced. DirectX 10 is on the horizon with Vista in Q1 2007.

It's not a Clevo '590' - the 5750 is a Clevo M570U.

You're thinking of desktops. No, the video card module does not come with its own fan. It comes with the heatsink. I know this because I own the M560, which is the 15.4" cousin of the M570 and uses the same modular design for the GPU. The fan is not integrated and does not come with the video card. It is already in the laptop itself.

It does have a large heatsink, nobody said it did not. And it also has a fan for the GPU in addition to the heatsink.

What is the intended purpose of this arguement? I see no practical use of this information.

 

The chassis on the 5750 and 5760 are the same in size (physically). However, the Thermal Solution is the main reason as to why you can not install a 7900GTX to the 5750. The cooling system on the 5750 will not support what is needed for the 7900GTX. As chaz was stating, notebook video cards do not come with their own fans.

The cooling and screen resolution are the main differences between the two models. They are two different & seperate models.

 

Please let me correct one thing I said earlier. The thermal solution is not different on the two models...it is the same. I apologize for posting erroneous information previously.

Someone could upgrade the NP5750 to the 7900 GTX subject only to finding the card, and of course the cost of doing so. It seems that it doesn't make sense to do this when you could just buy a NP5760 in the first place.

Now, IF someone really wanted a matte screen with WXGA+ resolution with the 7900 GTX then go for it...buy both the X1600 and the 7900 GTX (if you can find one).

However I can tell you stamar, you are the only person I have ever seen requesting or asking about such a thing. I can also tell you that your belligerent attitude is not at all welcome, and is totally unnecessary. Why in the world would you argue about a subject that virtually no one but you cares about, and when even you are simply posing a hypothetical...

Now, please correct me if I am wrong and you actually intend to purchase a Sager NP5750 and want to upgrade the video card to the 7900 GTX.

Otherwise, let's consider this discussion closed.

 

um

Im sorry if I sound beligerent Im not really into arguing on message boards.

What Im trying to do is get correct information. Im not really into BS or sales pitch haze to try and figure it out.

these are the models for sale I understand. If a customer wants a 7900 gtx they want the more expensive one I understand.

I didnt really dig your answer or xotic pcs because youre trying to sell the machine, or to sell the other machine.

Instead of yes no, its buy this buy that.

Yes the gpu for the sager 9700 series has a fan built in. I doubt it does for this one.


Im not arguing with you chazman but ill contradict you on that point and challenge you to look it up for yourself. Gpus with notebooks come with their own fans. not in your model but some do. why take my word for it?


As far as being a customer for the 5750? no way, not unless i was sure i could upgrade the gpu someday. Id have to research the possibility. There is already a 17 inch notebook on the market that is 7900 gs for less... I mean Im trying to make a case for this machine I could sell myself or advise someone else to.
I definitely appreciate the information youve given me in the past and now. You are a salesman and i have to ignore the sales pitch but most of the information is honest paladin and I think thats going to help you make more sales in the long run.

 

well is this true or is it false. I mean you sell them and you must not know. I tihnk youd appreciate knowing so Im going to make sure. If you think they are different computers and paladin thinks they are the same, someone is mistaken.

Ok so sorry its the clevo 570u is the base model.

which clevo is the 5750? is it the 570u with a wxga screen and the x1600?

and please, nobody take offense at being mistaken. Im not trying to embarrass anyone I appreciate your time for answering the question. theres nothing wrong with being incorrect but im trying to be correct.

 

Again Im sorry for putting anyone down Im just interested in learning about the 5750.

Dell sells a xps 1710 and a e1705.

They are in basis the same machine.

The gpu however, the 7900 gs, and the 7900 gtx do require different cooling.

What Dell actually did for this generation of its 17 inch machines is actually put a peg inside the case of the e1705 so the heatsink for the 7900 ( or 7800 gtx) doesnt fit.

Because no one has this machine Im not sure I could figure out if its the same theory.

Now, getting a sager gpu is a lot harder than getting a dell gpu so the theory is much more academic granted.

If your question is who would want a 5750 who wants a 7900 gtx? Well, someone who only has $1400 is the answer. outlay the 1400, and down the road outlay the $600. lose out on the um im not sure $200 the x1600 already in the machine.

Have a machine that runs the games of today and then in 6 months put down the money to make it run the games of tommorow.

if you think there is not a customer base that buys a notebook and wants to upgrade the video card.... um dell 9300 e1705 etc etc

when the e1705 only had the x1400 it sold like crazy. Theres a huge user base that wants to do this. Its a major selling point really.

 

I'm still not getting the point of the thread . . nothing has been accomplished so far as I can see. The entire arguement is irrelevant and doesn't have anything to do with buying experiences, decsions, etc. If you want a Go7900GTX, get the 5760, if not, then get the 5750.

That's a Dell . . in the Sager forum, Dell notebooks don't have much, if any, relevance. They have a much different user base than we do here.

Please refrain from posting misleading/argumentative threads in the future, thanks. I am closing this thread.