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    Anything bigger fit the same as 180w PSU?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Bryanu, Sep 3, 2011.

  1. Bryanu

    Bryanu Notebook Deity

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    So has anyone found any better/bigger PSU instead of the 180W? or modded one yet and can share pics ect?

    I am still concerned it will cause premature failure of parts or fail itself due to running at max/over max so much

    For example my CPU I have seen pull 50w alone, the GPU people have tested and seen it go just over 100W..

    That does not leave much left for Screen, HDD, RAM, WiFi, DVD drive ect.

    Plus anyone knowing computers knows its not good to run psu at max rated output always and not to mention they lose effeminacy over time.

    Still shocked Clevo has not found something better or didn't make the 15" socket the same as the 17" notebook so they could all share psu.

    Makes me wonder on these people with failing GPU if some of it is due to lack of power stress killing the parts.
     
  2. lazard

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    I too wonder why Clevo cuts their PSUs so close. Like for the P151HM1, the GPU and CPU alone equal 120W. And some members on here measured how much wattage the P150HM pulled under load and it came well over 180W.
     
  3. Anthony@MALIBAL

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    You do have to remember that 180w is the output from the power brick to the machine. There is an inherent efficiency loss that means that it'll actually be expected to pull more from the wall. In addition, adding up the TDP for each part is a bit misleading because they'll very rarely pull that much power. TDP stands for Thermal Design Power, which refers not to the amount of power it can pull, but rather the amount of power the cooling system has to be designed to dissipate. The difference is slight, but significant.

    If you were pulling more power than the brick could handle, trust me, you'd know it. (Smoke, catastrophic failure, machine simply shutting down, etc).

    It's a sign of a good power supply if it can run at the rated capacity without issue. Cheap power supplies for desktops may be rated at 700w, but die when you exceed 500. It all depends on the quality of the components.
     
  4. Electric Shock

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    My kill-a-watt reports my P151HM pulls like 150W from the wall when the power brick is only rated to be 120W.

    That's the inefficiency.
     
  5. Bryanu

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    I didn't just add the TDP though, this is what HWMonitor told me, my CPU pulled about 51W running a game and we know the GPU can pull its 100 easy if not more.

    I know what your saying though, I agree the are decent PSU as they do run at limit good, my concern is that all PSU lose power over time and what happens in say 12 months after this PSU has been pushing its max from lots of games? :D

    This will be my main computer so it will be maxed a lot, while I know right now the PSU seems to be OK, I just worry about the future.

    And for the part you said "Smoke, catastrophic failure, machine simply shutting down, etc)." thats only partial true. Machine may shut down like you said, but I have also seen computers just flat out run shi* and it turned out to be PSU. Have also seen lack of power damage other parts because they got put under more stress. All things we have no real way to eval or know ourselves. All we do know is that 180W is low... If anything I think the ones with the 120W should have gotten 180W and we should have gotten at least 200W if not 220 like the big brother.

    I just think the life of the laptop (PSU for sure) wont last as long as it could due to being pegged on power. Not been out log enough to know for sure yet though, but just going off simple math and specs it aint ideal :p


    Thats normal though, you got to remember its going from AC to DC which will never be perfect. The expensive heavy duty things that do it and do it well are just now getting to being able to be in the 90% effc.
     
  6. Mr_Mysterious

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    @bryanu: good points, but you will buy a new psu anyways when the old one starts giving you problems.

    Mr. Mysterious
     
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    bonnie.clyde Notebook Consultant

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  8. Bryanu

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    Hells yea! now only if they made a compact size!!! lol not a bad price considering...

    I just don't want to buy a new psu every year because this one takes a shi* or worry about a GPU or mobo going bad from strain due to lack of power.

    Lack of power wont always cause a shut down, some parts will run still, just under more strain and die faster. Thats my most worry.

    I think a guy on here is getting the 220W for the big brother and modding it. If his turns out good I may do that and keep this as a second psu. I wish the psu just screwed shut and not snap together type. I would just get big one, open it and replace the entire wire.

    Not really for chopping ends and replacing them.