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    Are there clevos with power supply 230 watts?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by ng80092a, Jul 10, 2021.

  1. ng80092a

    ng80092a Notebook Enthusiast

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    and rtx 3070?

    Buying a separate power supply might not be compatible with hardware power limits maybe?
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Why do you want to use a 230W PSU?
     
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    ng80092a Notebook Enthusiast

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    To get better fps with rtx 3060/3070. To avoid draining the battery. Why other manufacturers provide 230 W?
     
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    Look on e-bay / aliexpress.

    More importantly look at the label on the bottom for the voltage that is supported to see if it will even allow for more than your current PSU. Just because you have a 600W PSU doesn't mean you'll be able to get more than the inverter allows.

    I.E. I have a 120W limit on mine and got a 180W because it was cheaper but, it didn't actually allow for an improvement but, did work just fine.

    The HW regulates the supply / conversion to the designed spec of the laptop.
     
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    That is exactly why I'm looking for a laptop, and not just a power supply. Duh?
     
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    Model #'s for what you're looking for.

    15" models
    N960KR
    PC50DR

    17" models
    X170KM-G
    PC70DR


    Based on those you should be able to find the manuals with part #'s for PSU's meeting your needs.
     
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    Depends on the TDP of the chips used, the 30x0 series can vary pretty massively in its maximum power rating.
     
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    And also x170 has a desktop cpu.. that is too much I believe.

    Other than that all Clevo laptops have MAX Q (Low TDP) cards.. I wonder why
     
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    SMH

    I don't get it either. They run great but, always a couple of steps behind the mainstream it seems. I don't see a problem with 180W but, it's already being phased out of new sales which means something new is around the corner or already released and I just didn't stumble deep enough into the google search to find it.

    I know there are some models that have a bigger PSU but, it's more about how it's allocated to the system. IIRC someone had a 300W+ dual PSU setup for some different model. When you break 200W it doe get more expensive and the higher end machines use more proprietary connections to prevent issues due to non-OEM accessories.

    I'm sure if you dig around google you can find something that matches your desires. It might not be cheap though as the bigger / dual PSU's alone sometimes run $300. The last one I picked up was 180W @ $50 on Amazon but, it's one of the normal barrel connectors and not the pinned ones.
     
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    It will be a low TDP variant of the 3070, the 3060 version of that chassis is 80W normal and it can steal from the CPU another 25W in very GPU intensive games. That's what the cooling and VRM will be designed for too so for that 180W is fine.

    It just shows you how much it can vary.
     
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    Why provide a more expensive proper power adapter if they can use the battery?
    Less powerful adapters is often cheaper due the choice of components.
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    Because while using the RTX your draw is more than the battery can provide.

    For instance my machine will charge over USB-PD @ ~45W while not using the GTX1650. When using the GTX1650 the system draw jumps to 120W and PD only charges up to 100W and causes the power from PD to flap resulting in no charging while the GTX is in use / draining the battery in an hour or so.

    Whilst plugged in and using the GTX the power supply provides 120W of which only 15W is directed to the battery w/ or w/o using the GTX resulting in a full recharge taking ~3 hours.

    The issue I see is that the voltage regulation to the battery needs to be boosted to something a bit higher to recover the lost charge when plugged in. Bumping the PSU to 150W with a 120W to system and 30W to battery would make it more beneficial for battery recovery time. 120W PSU vs 150W PSU in terms of costs is negligible but would provide a better user experience.

    If I take my laptop on the road w/ a 30K MAH power bank connected to the laptop and drop the brightness to 50% I can get a few hours of use out of it before needing to recharge either the internal / power bank batteries. If the system is off though the PB can provide almost 2 full charges to the internal battery.

    In summary: Bigger PSU / better VR would result in a better power management scheme / experience