Ati 5870m upgrade

I have a clevo w860cu and i want to upgrade my gtx 260m.where can i buy an ati 5870m?thanxx.

 

Can try to see if RJtech has any stock. Or, IMO a better way is to contact your reseller and ask them to help you to upgrade the GPU.

 

I would still wait what Nvidia brings out next and then decide on an upgrade, that's what I will do as the even the GTX 260M will be sufficient until then, especially considering that your max resolution is 1600x900 in which the GTX 260M performs practically as well as the GTX 280M.

 

But the question is when will Nvidia make the next GFX card available.
The thing I'm wondering if the 5870 would work in a M860ETU?
But I'm not sure if the BIOS would support the ATI card.
EDIT:
Never mind I just remembered they use different MXM slots...DUH!

 

You can buy one here for a very good price.

 

some other opinions??when the new nvidia cards come outs?

 

It's being said around June/July.

 

I wounder if what ever comes out will blow away the 5870, i like mine quite a bit.

 

nVidia's response to the ATi HD 5870 will probably be around this summer.

 

the question is how much faster will it be, id reckon 20%?

 

I doubt that! More like 0-10% is more realistic IMO.

 

Well seeing as the 5870 was about a 20% jump give or take, id think nvidias response would be the sameish.

 

I really hope so, waiting for Nvdias new card is taking forever.

that would be awesome even if it does not have DX11.

 

well, i think its reasonable no? It should be faster than the current ATI card.....granted, if it doesn't have dx11, id personally go for the dx11 card and forge the 20% boost, but then again im a DX .

 

Well, anyone can correct me if i'm wrong, but iirc the benchmarks for the new desktop fermi's didn't have that much of a boost over the desktop 5870/5970?
In some cases i believe ATI's card were better. Even so "who won which benchmark test" i doubt the new fermi mobile cards will be a 20% boost from 5870m. I'd bet for about a max 5% boost.
I remember reading the thread about Fermi here as it was released and people were sceptical about it launching as soon as this summer for laptop.
Looking at the power consumption/heat it sounded like it would take awhile.
There were also some retailers telling consumers they would get them in around June, which is still just a rumour afaik.

 

The desktop fermi is a load of fail, with that high a temperature, you will be glad it don't overheat even at stock, giving 5870 a large thermal overhead to OC, and with some mild OC will be able to overtake the 20% advantage 480 have on it.

Nevertheless, desktop cards have nothing to do with mobile cards, they are different things altogether, ie. 5870MR has got nothing to do with HD 5870, since it's based on HD 5770. Most likely the fermi mobile card will be based on a low end fermi desktop card as well. Meaning, we won't know until it's out.

 

the thing with ATI is that their drivers and control panel kinda suck. Thats why I prefer NVIDIA cards ...

oh, and also, video's play with much better quality on Nvidia cards

 

While i know you shouldn't compare desktop with mobile cards, but seeing as how it's most likely that the new nvidia mobile cards will be based on desktop fermi, and how they fare against desktop ati cards (which the 5870MR is based on), it's almost safe to say that they won't be that big of a optimistic boost that's been posted in here.

Of course, since it hasn't been released yet we can't be certain, and can only speculate.

@Psyloid: While i can't argue with that you don't like the control panel, ATI's drivers has improved alot since the launch of 4xxx-series. I'm not entirely sure how they fare with mobile cards as i have yet to experience it (currently only own a desktop). If they work similar as to desktop this is just false information.
I know that alot of people had issues with their drivers (me included), and were crying about how could they leave nvidia for this "crap", but it should have been fixed now.
Isn't the only stable driver for nvidia with no significant performance loss, a really old one (186.xx)?

I have not heard anything about video play being worse on ATI cards. Have anything to back that up?
I know that there's an issue with flash player and the 5xxx-series, and iirc it's because it doesn't clock up when playing a video.
This can be rectified by using the latest flash player beta, but it does come with some issues as well (sound not working at times etc).
Most upper mainstream/high end cards should not have any issues with playing up video @ 1080p afaik.

I know i may be sounding a little biased, but i've owned different cards over the years (going back to voodoo), and i hate when people start hating on a different brand about issues that's non existent.

 

So you're saying that the GTX285M is still better than the 5870 in video playback because the 285M doesn't have issues at all?

I myself is torn between the two cards, which one to get for a difference of $50.

 

5870MR seems to have weak 2D acceleration, but 10.4 is supposed to going to address that.

 

When is that driver version going out?

 

If i were torn between two cards i would ask myself what i would use it for.
If the latest technology/support for latest Direct x is something i want, and what price range i'm going for. Also, i usually use benchmarks as a reference rather than the ultimate selling point.

Doing a quick search tells us that the 5870m is still the better single card (power, performance, cost).
If the 5870m have video playback issues (which i've yet to see), then this is something that would easily be addressed in a driver update.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=467129

EDIT:
They should be releasing the driver shortly. They release a driver every month (10 for 2010, .4 for april)

 

Actually the leaked beta version 10.5 already addressed that, but I've yet to use it yet because I don't find anything lacking in the current official driver.

 

imo (and speaking as a 285 owner) i would rather have the single 5870 vs the single 285

The 5870 is much much newer tech then the 285 which is nothing more then an overclocked and tuned 8800

for a single card solution there should be no comparison the 5870 is a better choice.

I have it from relieable source the nvidia mobile solution is booked for end of June, however i know that it is based on the 200 desktop series. It will be difficult to tell 100% till its out but i would still lean that the ATI cards will be better overall

 

I also think the next nvidia mobile card will be based on 200 desktop series, there is nothing more to do with G92.. Instead the next mobile nvidia could be a 40nm GT200. Maybe some shaders will be deactivated, but such a card (basically a GTX 260) with 192 shaders or something in this region would kill the MR HD 5870 in terms of raw performance. Although it would not support dx11 and, of course, would be hot as hell.

 

I'm more than convinced now that the 5870 is indeed a better card than the 285M. My only primary concern would be the issue in the Clevo W860CU with the heatsink not being flushed properly to the GPU die because of thich stock thermal pads, I'm not sure if this is really an issue for all 5870/W860CU owners out there.

 

IIRC, this is a non existent issue, as everyone already have been telling you.
It's been reported by what, 1-2 user(s)? I've read the whole W860CU owner thread and if my memory serves me right only one or two had an issue with this.

 

Yeah, I guess so, and another one from the W870CU thread I reckoned.

Anyway, I might be pulling my trigger with the 5870.

 

5870 all the way!!

 

Currently ATI cards have an advantage when it comes to performance per watt across the board. Any new NV card will have to run much hotter and consume more power to be competitive. Don't hold your breath for anything amazing until 28nm comes around. About the most you can expect is something with similar shader count to the 280/285 and ddr5 memory until next year.