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    Ati on clevo m860tu

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by doublek19, Sep 21, 2010.

  1. doublek19

    doublek19 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Does ati 4850 work with clevo m860tu?
     
  2. JohnnyFlash

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    The MXM 2.1 version should.
     
  3. 5482741

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    I tried using a 3870 in my M860TU/M860ETU, but it seems the BIOS didn't support it.
     
  4. JohnnyFlash

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    You're right. I could have sworn I saw a 4850 in a m860tu, but now I can't find anything on Google. Just MSI and Alienware notebooks.
     
  5. Blacky

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    That's because Clevo intended to release the ATI Mobility 4850/4870 for the M860TU and M570TU, they even have the drivers for these cards up on their website.... but it all turned to vaporware. Shame.
     
  6. doublek19

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    Where can I get the bios to flash? I'm thinking of buying an ati 4850 from a msi gx620
     
  7. Blacky

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    I don't think there is a public BIOS that supports the ATI 4850. However, you may be able to mood your BIOS to accept the card.

    Soviet may be able to help you in this regard.
     
  8. Soviet Sunrise

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    I refuse to help.
     
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    Why not? If the person is willing to accept the risks....
     
  10. JohnnyFlash

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    LOL

    That's classic.
     
  11. doublek19

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    If it involves too much risk then its not worth it
     
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    Do any clevo laptops support MXM 2.1 ATI cards?
     
  13. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    Way back when, Killer|Notebooks claimed to have the M860TU working with the 3870, but I never saw that claim substantiated.

    I'd ask them, but too bad they went under.
     
  14. Soviet Sunrise

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    If he wants to make a barbecue in his notebook then let him do it. I was able to find my old version of the Phoenix BIOS reader that was able to read the latest M860TU BIOS. They technically have the MR 48x0 microcode. That meets the BIOS requirement. They were also made in MXM 2.1, so they meet the socket requirement. Finally, they also meet the cooling and TDP requirement. These three main aspects were the sole highlight of getting a card to work with a notebook as I have described a long time ago. http://forum.notebookreview.com/4888596-post1.html

    However, there is a fine print behind my description of the "cooling system." Not only does the cooling system need to be adequate, it also has to be tailored for the specific card. Back when I wrote those three requirements, the top dogs on the block during the day were all G92's and G94's, all of which can use each others heatsinks just fine. The MR 48x0 cards need a heatsink made just for it, in which the OP's M860TU heatsink is not. It's just like how The MR 5870 and GTX 285M need their own heatsinks. I didn't include the power requirement as the goal is to get the card to function in the notebook. For example, the GTX 480M can work in a 120W notebook if downclocked enough. It just needs to work, period.

    It's a surprise to me how you guys overlook these fine details and yet still push forward half blind to experiment. TL;DR. Yes, the MR 48x0 will work, albeit cooking itself within a few seconds/minutes upon startup, or not startup at all as the card needs to pass a thermal failsafe upon POST, like in 5482741's case, as the heatsink isn't designed for it. So the true answer is no. Good luck finding a M860TU CPU/GPU heatsink tailored for the MR 48x0. The OP is better off dropping a GTX 280M as a replacement if his wallet can squeeze one out.
     
  15. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    You could just mod the stock heatsink, couldn't you?

    I did the same thing to mine when I went from a 9800m to an ati 3870.
     
  16. Kevin

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    Eh, someone should try it, just for final confirmation.

    Send me one. I'll do it. My machine is half dead anyway.
     
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    I'm glad that you write this Soviet Sunrise, finally some one who consider the upgrade as a whole operation (physical fit, energy requirement, voltage, Tx, TDP, colling system, microcode, vBIOS, BIOS, drivers and real world performance durability over time) not only fit a new video card, overclock it, do some benchmarks and stability tests then show the so-called 3dmark score...

    i know you don't need my 5 rep, but this is what i can do for you. Rep added :)
     
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    I did think of most of these elements, and in terms of power and TDP, the M4850 should be 65W which is within the M860TU's specifications. So from this point of view I don't see why I shouldn't work.

    But yeah, Soviet is right, I never thought it will need a different heatsink and it WILL need a different heatsink and without the heatsink you can't really do much. :(
     
  19. Kevin

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    Any pictures of the Mobility 4850? Is it really so different, compared to a GTX 200M?
     
  20. 5482741

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    If it's anything like the Mobility 3870, the thermal pads will need to be moved around and the heatsink still won't fit properly over it.
     
  21. kaltmond

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    Tried 4850 before no boot.
     
  22. niffcreature

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    its a surprise to me how when people say something wont work they dont make a distinction between the electronic and the mechanical reasons.

    The reason I overlook details like cooling is because cooling pads are squishy and i've got ramsinks everywhere - but most of all because you can tell exactly how much its not working. Its not all or nothing.
    You start up a notebook with components that aren't cooled, put you fingers on them, wait to get burned and there you have your work set out for you.

    whereas you put a video card in a notebook and it doesnt boot... uh....
     
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    was it a Dell or an MSI card? or other?

    did it boot to black screen?