Ati vs Nvidia + (how accurate is notebookcheck.net?)

Ati is better price/performance than Nvidia yet has better driver and have better support from game developer so which one win in the end?

I want to wait for the 6990m but I just learn that the frame rate drop massively for all Ati 6000 series card for Crysis 2 on DX11 while Nvidia can still maintain it at a cool 45 fps. Also I just learn that 6990m or the 6000 series by Ati in general have a lot of flickering issue that is very hard on the eye and affect gameplay as well.

Also it seem like games that upon release (Batman AA/Mass Effect 2) would much easier to force AA/AF or plainly have AA/AF instead of having to force it via Ati which is harder if you don't know what you are doing. It also safe to say Nvidia has the upper hand when it come to game developer and can also pay these developer more money to restricts some of the cool feature that are not available to Ati user on release.

With all of this said, it seem like the price/performance of Ati card are not worth it if Nvidia continue to dominate the gaming world and have first choice on eliminating the competition by restricting Ati user with some of those much needed feature (Tessellation) for one.

So unless I'm wrong, the price/performance of Ati won't be fully utilize thanks to Nvidia/Intel so as such Nvidia card are better only because they are meant for gamer? Also Nvidia win hand down with driver support which is even more important than game performance in my opinion. Don't matter how good your card is, but if it don't have driver to support it, it near useless.

Am I correct?

What is your opinion on this?

 

Seriously? Where did you hear that?
Mobile Graphics Cards - Benchmark List - Notebookcheck.net Tech
Computer Games on Laptop Graphic Cards - Notebookcheck.net Tech

 

I have had no such issues with my 6970m. In terms of visual quality between the two.. I noticed no difference from switching from my old 460m to the 6970m. With CCC 11.7 Crysis 2 runs very smoothly on extreme.

Many would say that Nvidia's driver support is better, but many would also argue the opposite. I honestly think is all about personal preference. Just my 2 cents.

 

Tons of forum as well as a video on IGN that state that Ati user got "bone" during their Crysis 2 DX11 presentation.

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=346910&page=5

There are a ton if you guys google it.

 

crysis 2 is a junk game.

Why don't you post this in the existing 6990 vs 580 thread instead of making another new one.

Kill the thread here and continue discussion in other one.

 

Cause this is a rather specific question and I want to get answer as fast as possible and someone not everyone will answer your question in a big thread when people are talking about openCL and what not.

 

I'm pretty sure AMD will fix Crysis 2 FPS drops with the next driver/CAP update. Judging the card by one game is really a bad idea. I could say the opposite about Crysis1.

 

It is a completely subjective question that doesn't have a really great easy answer...
"Rep" in the industry is a joke, both have had flops and both have done some impressive things. Past perfromance is not a guarantee of future results. I could easily argue that Nvidia is unreliable after the BGA solder cracking issues they had a few years ago; except that it is completely IRRELEVENT to the cards they are making now. Same goes with AMD. Both make decent products, put out decent drivers, and both have pros and cons.

Read reviews on the ACTUAL product you want and make the decision, not based on these stereotypes. Since no reviewers have a 6990m in hand, you can't objectively compare it to the 580m. Your 2 options: Wait until you can, or buy now.

As far as the two cards go, you aren't going to be disappointed (or probably even able to notice the difference) in real-world use with either.

 

except in PhysX games...and there's only 2 PhysX games worth getting in my opinion...Batman 2 Arkham City and Alice: Madness Returns

 

Mafia 2 also have physX no ?

 

Just remember that PhysX or 3D vision on laptops is a balancing act. Both require a ton of processing power, so they often also require settings to be lowered elsewhere to accommodate. They are both more attractive on high end desktop cards.

 

Lol it seems like Cheesy asks people which is better, Nvidia or AMD ... everytime he basically gets told right now, AMD 6990s. Then he finds another reason to ask the same question from a different angle and get the same response ...

Without the actual cards in hand cheesy, yur not going to get official results.

Mythlogic has benched the actualy 2 cards and says the 6990 is better then the 580.

Everyone who looks at the stats on the hardware says the 6990 overall will be a better card ... take it or leave it. Please stop reasking the same question in multiple threads ...

 

A bit Cheesy eh?!?

I guess that settle them since Mythlogic had benchmark both of them. I wasn't aware of this btw.

 

Seriously? Crysis? You'd base your buying decision on that game?

 

I'd wait until Battlefield 3 comes out, which will be a much better game benchmark for comparison, as according to Dice there is no current computer that can max it out.

 

this might be a huge problem lol. You mean not even desktop GTX 595s or desktop HD 6990s? if so...pretty sure we notebook gamers are screwed.

 

^^^ true, if desktop gpus cant max out bf3 then how will us laptop users be able to play it. we will probably be stuck at low settings at 1080p, lol.

 

Anyone with the 6900M, or 485M/580M will be running BF3 at high settings. Not the maximum, but very well.

I don't expect BF3 to be more demanding than The Witcher 2.

 

when you they said a desktop could run it on full i think if im not mistaken that it was a resolution higher than 1080p.