Before buying my P770DM

Hi guys,

also due to your hints I've decided to buy a P770DM at mysn instead of a GT72S
Some final questions I have

1) Are there any advantages of getting a i7-6700k over a i7-6700 aside from the slightly higher clock of the i7-6700k? (Overclocking is not even an option, coz the temps are so high according to notebookcheck).

2) Vice-versa, can I surf longer on Wifi using battery if i get the 6700 non k, due to its lower TDP (65W vs 91W)?

2) Which Wifi module should I get?
Qualcom Atheros Killer Wireless-ac 1525, Intel dual-band wireless ac 8260 or Intel wireless ac-3160 m.2

3) The laptop does have a MXM GPU socket, so I can change the GPU later.
a) Where can I buy these new GPUs? Should I ask mysn for that? Or get one myself, i.e. at ebay?
b) How likely is it that I can i.e. upgrade to a 1070M (Pascal) in a year? (Socket, BIOS, etc)
c) Kinda like b) how are your experiences with clevo machines and upgrading GPUs?

4) Would you advise to invest another 300 euros to extend the warranty from 2 to 3 years?

 

The 6700k does allow for overclocking, but the standard 6700 will run cooler and more efficient on battery life.

I would take the 8260 over the 3160. If you do a lot of online gaming, then maybe go with the Killer card, as it is geared more towards that. But either the 8260 or 1525 should be good in general.

You would want to reach out to your reseller directly for upgrades typically. You could buy one on ebay or other sites, but the prices might be inflated somewhat. And you do take a risk buying it from someone else, if it works or not, and if they will cover it if it is broken. I'm not sure on how likely it is to upgrade to Pascal, as that is still a while before we will see that released it looks like. As long as they use compatible MXM modules, it should be fine though.

If you are putting a lot of money in to the system, a warranty isn't a bad idea. But it just matters to you weight the risk of not having it and possibly paying out of pocket for repairs, versus that warranty cost.

 

6700 should run cooler but should also TDP throttle more, lowering it's performance in order to keep itself below the 65W TDP.
You can change the TDP on a 6700K, if you lower it to 65W you effectively get a 6700.
Keep in mind TDP is a heat output measure, not a power consumption one.

I'd say go with the 6700K if you want the performance with no TDP throttling. The 770DM's cooling system can handle it nicely. Notebookcheck's temps were recorded in worse than worst case scenario load. I hear the CPU sits at around 60ºC while playing something like BF4 so that's pretty healthy.

I'm not sure about how the battery run times between those CPUs differ, maybe the 6700 will get a bit better battery life as it has lower clocks so requires lower power.

I had the exact same doubt when speccing mine. Ended up going with the K.

About the wifi, I think the Intel 8260 AC is pretty good. Comes with Bluetooth 4.2 too if I'm not mistaken.
I don't like the Killer one, I hate 'gaming' branded hardware.

 

1, 2. Get the K. It's unlocked. You can go up or down to 6700 levels.

Second 2 Intel was my choice for wireless and it's fine.

3a. plenty of options, of course, check with mySN too.

3b. Likely, but no guarantee. BIOS - Prema will hook everyone up, I would assume.

3c N/A

4. See if you can get the 4 year warranty. I'm not sure if it still existsor if it's a special request. @jaybee83 has it and there was some discussion about it not being offered but check.

 

Thanks as always guys, good replies !

Will go for the i7-6700k. I guess I can just underclock and undervolt it to get 6700-comparable battery life?

Will also get the Intel dual-band wireless ac 8260 as suggested.

I'll see if i can call mysn and ask about that 4 years warranty.

Edit: I read somewhere that Clevo uses a special MXM format for their GPUs, which doesn't fit on other brands and vice-versa? Is that true?

 

Special MXM format? I have only heard ASUS that does this, I don't think Clevo does that. They have standard MXM slots like the Alienwares.

 

No, not necessarily. It's better to get a Clevo GPU for compatibility not size compatibility.

 

You'll have no problem finding mxm graphics card upgrades for the P770DM as they use regular MXM b. That is, assuming they keep the same format for the next generation.

The problem is in finding correct heatsinks for the model you have.

 

It used to be a card pulled from an Alienware wouldn´t work in a Clevo. Don´t know hot it is nowadays.

 

Thanks for the input!

So as I understand it, the biggest problem is not finding a compatible mxm-card, but rather a heatpipe/cooling system, that fits the new card and also the p770dm.

Guess that makes it more difficult to upgrade than I expected.

 

Not really, clevo tend to use pretty inter-changeable heatsinks and you just need to adjust the pads to fit it from card to card.

 

I recommend just going with the 6700. I know seems hypocritical since I have the K version of 4790. But I do not overclock, the cooling system is good on Clevo but it's not that good. I don't find the performance improvements are that great, overclocking does improve as benchmarks show, but those overclock are substantially more than what I can do on this laptop. Also a lot of instability gaming, my experience. 6700 should be more than enough.

But I understand if you want the K. K at stock is still more powerful than a 6700, 4 ghz base with 4.2 turbo. That's awesome.

 

Hi guys and topic starter! I am in the same situation, just ready to place my order for 770DM. If you do not mind, I would like to join this thead and ask few questions aswell.
1. Do you think, would be possible upgrade LCD to f.e. some 4k or 120Hz in the future?
2. Everything seems fine, but is there some major\minor disadvantages of this laptop?
3. Any recomendations?
Thanks in advice, in some case sorry for english.

 

@Asting

1. Not sure. Best to call mysn and ask
2. It's heavy, like most gaming laptops. It's expensive, but you get great perfomance and support (if you order at mysn) and the battery life isn't too great (which is normal also for gaming laptops.
3. http://www.notebookcheck.net/Schenker-XMG-U706-Clevo-P771DM-Notebook-Review.150989.0.html

Read the notebookcheck test

 

Have you pulled the trigger on yours yet zezeri? How did you spec it?

I can"t wait for mine, should be here next monday.

 

Cool! Please regale us with your thoughts once you've had some time with it.

 

Best solution is cpu with tdp 65w and edp display. Later you can always upgrade cpu/gpu/display if you find ☺

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