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    Bent pins on socket

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Mangix, Mar 5, 2018.

  1. Mangix

    Mangix Notebook Guru

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    While cleaning off thermal paste off of the metal piece of the socket, I managed to get the paper towel on the pins and bend a few. In the process I managed to break a pin.

    Salvageable or new motherboard needed?
     
  2. Stooj

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    You can straighten out most bent pins very gently with a credit card or similar (something plastic!)

    For the broken pin, you can just cross your fingers and hope it's a null pin and not in use. Anywhere from 10-30% of the pins on many CPUs are either ground pins, unused or "reserved for future uses" so you may just get lucky.
    If not it's a new motherboard. Or if you have an electronics repair shop nearby with a re-flow machine you could get a new 1151 socket installed on your existing board.
     
  3. Mangix

    Mangix Notebook Guru

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    i tried straightening with a needle. looks straight enough but that missing pin is probably needed.

    A new socket can be installed?
     
  4. Mangix

    Mangix Notebook Guru

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    Here's a picture:
     

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    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Only way to test is to power the system up.
     
  6. Mangix

    Mangix Notebook Guru

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    Doesn't even get to the initial BIOS screen
     
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    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    rip motherboard

    unless someone can do microscopic socket repair?
     
  8. bennyg

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    Socket replacement through Australia's only Clevo servicer was just over half the cost of a new P870DM mobo when I damaged the socket (broken pin) last year

    Maybe you can find LGA 1151 Skylake pinout and if it's a broken ground, you may be able to bridge it to an adjacent ground with conductive paint/marker etc. Risky tho.
     
  9. Stooj

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    One of the pins in your picture is still bent incorrectly. It's on the right side, almost exactly half-way between the top and bottom. 3rd pin across from the centre cut-out.

    The socket itself is soldered onto the motherboard (much like a BGA CPU would be). With a reflow station it can be removed and replaced in it's entirety.
    You can get the socket from ebay or aliexpress for <$10.

    It's not a cheap procedure though as the tool is expensive and people with the knowledge to use it are few and far between. Typically, replacing the entire motherboard ends up cheaper.
     
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  10. Mangix

    Mangix Notebook Guru

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    I think I'll try one last time to get the pins right. I looked at pinout to see what pin is missing. It said VSS. That does not inspire confidence.
     
  11. t456

    t456 1977-09-05, 12:56:00 UTC

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    That's perfect; it's a ground, so you can short it with any other 'VSS'. Small electric motors are a good source for the wire; cut off a bit and strip it with a knife on all sides (it's coated in transparent plastic).
     
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  12. johnbb

    johnbb Notebook Consultant

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    It could definitely be worse...
     
  13. Mangix

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    Doesn't that depend on voltage?

    And what electric motor?
     
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    t456 1977-09-05, 12:56:00 UTC

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    Nah, that's fine. And any motor from a defective toothbrush, razor, fan or a hdd (spinnie) will do. You just need a small piece of very thin, conductive wire and the copper windings on these motors are just the right size.

    Electric motor (laptop fan):

    [​IMG]
     
  15. Mangix

    Mangix Notebook Guru

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    Latest attempt:

    Looks like I need to disassemble the whole laptop.
     

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  16. Meaker@Sager

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    Any different behavior now?
     
  17. Mangix

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    Nope. I disassembled the whole laptop but have no idea how to even begin fixing that pin. Guess I'll just toss this...
     
  18. senso

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    You still have two pins touching or near that, plus the bent back pin touching another by the looks of the photo.

    Go and buy a fine points tweezer, grab then and bend then *gently*.