Best processor for NP9262

Hi,

I currently have the NP9262 with Quad Q9550 2.83GHz and 4GB memory.
Bought new from Xoticpc back in June 2008.

Which would be the highest CPUs I can get for the NP9262?
And which would be the cheapest place to get said CPUs?

On another note, I read that XoticPC is no longer carrying the NP9262 and that it is or will be discontinued.

I sure like my 9262, just want a bit more pump from the processors.

 

your CPU and RAM are fine and still will outperform 99% of other notebooks out there.

Its not worth to get a faster CPU since it wont translate to better gaming performance.

the fastest CPU for the Clevo D901C (Sager 9262) is:
- Q9650 (3.00GHz)

you can physically stick 8GB of DDR2 in there... but the chipset limitation will only see 6.8GB

 

Gophn,

Thanks for the info. Yes, it's fast when only browsing, but I use Windows Vista (e) Business 64bit, and a bunch of power hungry programs for work.

Will the Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9770 Yorkfield 3.2GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775 136W Quad-Core Processor, be a good substitute in a year or so, once the price goes below $500?

 

I'm pretty sure that's a different chip sets and won't be compatible.

 

It's also an LGA 775 socket type, so it should have no problem, unless I'm missing something.

Regards,

 

The 9262 uses the monteniva chipset, which I believe requires a different bios than the yorkfield. I know that there's more to it than just pinsettings these days, but I'm not a mobo expert.

 

GamingACU,

OK, now I'm really confused.
The 9262, that I have, came with a Yorkfield Q9550 (LGA 775 socket type).

The QX9770 is also a Yorkfield (LGA 775 socket type).

 

yep the D901C mobo support 1600Mhz bus speed but i dont know what more you will get from this cpu very little compare to your Q9550 i will tell you why Q9650 and QX9650 working in this laptop the same not diff. at all so you will go from 2.83 to 3.20 this will be the diff. you cant overclock this extreme cpu
i think that the best option for you is to get Q9650 and sell your Q9550

 

Gangstaone,

Thanks for the info. Yes, that's a good idea, also given by Gophn.
I'm just thinking in about one year. Maybe the 9770 is low enough in dollars, and I can then "upgrade" to that one. Just sucks, that I won't be able to do much upgrading in the future, now that the 9262 is off the books.
Sucks the big one for sure.

Thanks,

 

I would not say it sucks.... still that fastest mobile workstation out there.... no other mobile CPU will touch it.

and it will still outperform the upcoming Clevo D900F in gaming since the D901C has dual videocards, while the new D900F only has a single videocard.

So the system will easily last.

 

Are you saying that I could put a qx9770 in the laptop? It clocks at 3.2 GHz my present proc is at 2.66.

PL

 

I do not think so.

I believe a few that tried that CPU found that it was not compatible.

 

At least a new BIOS is needed.

PL

 

D901C bios support this type cpu the mobo have support for 1600Mhz bus but i really dont know if the cpu will run on 1600Mhz i'm sure that it will run at 1333Mhz

 

In that case there is no gain. I wish I could get one for testing.

PL

 

abstravel i'm in the same boat as you I called Sager basically the Highest CPU you can go with is with q9650 and 9800gtx (untill the vga stock gets depleted).

835 or 865 a pop for each video card. since my laptop is still in warranty they will pay for shipping and labor. I just need to pay for the parts....dooh.

hope that helps.

Now I'm trying to figure out if I pop in a X3370 if it will be regonized, Eurocom did it why not in the Sager, According to Sager it wont boot....Hmmmmmm

 

I sent an email to xoticpc, still waiting to hear a reply to see which is the fastest CPU I can get for my rig.
I understand the 1333 speed limit on the board, but, when looking at the straight numbers, I should be able to plug in a QX9770 for the faster processing speeed, but not a faster bus speed.
When dealing with power hungry programs, sometimes bus speed is not that big of a deal. It's the raw processing power that gets you done with your work faster.

Hope I'm not wrong.

 

I sent an email to xoticpc this morning too, where I purchased the Np9262. asking about the CPU and 9800gtx (to avoid taxes )

 

mrblur 835 - 865 USD you mean ??? because i get two 9800M GTX 3 months ago from Sager and i get them for 750 USD each

 

I think the Q6600/Q9450 for a sager9262 is the best for price/performance.

 

Did anyone succesfull put a qx9770 in D901C and ran it at 3.2GHZ?

PL

 

bios doesnt recognize it. Johnksss, has a QX9650 up and running though. (which btw is 130W )

 

bah, for the last time, a QX9650 in a D901c will NOT run at 130w ever. That rating is when it it is at its max number of multipliers, which the D901c's BIOS can't access. It will run as if it were a Q9650, which is rated at 95w.

 

I believe I found the limiting denominator for the mobo.
I believe the 901C can not have a processor with power needs that is more than 95W.

In that case, nothing over 95W will be recognized by the BIOS.

If so, the fastest processor would be:
Intel Xeon X3380 Yorkfield 3.16GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Server Processor


Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

I think eurocom use teo sell 9262 with X3380 so it should work.

 

yup that's what they quoted me. They made it seem they did not have that many in stock left.

 

The x3380 seems worth it to wait for.

 

Yes, hopefully the x3380 will be around $300 in 6 months or so. After that is should be a good investment for your money.

 

doubt it you cant find it now, let alone in 6 months. Also the x3370 might be difficult to come by too.

 

mrblur,

newegg has the x3380 for about $500 and change.

Server cpus should still be available in 1 year. Too many servers out there for Intel to stop making them. Lucky for us mere notebook (portable desktop) owners.

 

you can forget putting any 1600 mhz stock or pin modded cpu in the np9262. it's not gonna happen! they would need to unlock the 1600 mhz frequency on the mother board (which is still up for debate that it really is possible)

qx9650/q9650 are basically the same thing...to a degree..
Intel® Core™2 Extreme Processor QX9650 (12M Cache, 3.00 GHz, 1333 MHz FSB)
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Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q9650 (12M Cache, 3.00 GHz, 1333 MHz FSB)
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Well, I will wait for the x3380 or whateever they make at 3.16 or 3.2 GHz with 1333 FSB and make an upgrade.
PL

 

that would be the best thing. i mean i have the pll code and have been working on altering it for the last 2 weeks and nothing yet.

also for that cpu to work..they would need to update the bios. (speculation of course)

 

Hi,

In case I'm wrong, the X3380 is a 1333Mhz, 95W, LGA 75, 45 nm, Yorkfield processor. So it is designed and should work perfectly on the NP9262.
It's just a wait and see moment for the price to come down.

Brand Intel
Series Xeon
Model BX80569X3380
CPU Socket Type
CPU Socket Type LGA 775
Tech Spec
Core Yorkfield
Multi-Core Quad-Core
Name Xeon X3380
Operating Frequency 3.16GHz
FSB 1333MHz
L2 Cache 12MB
Manufacturing Tech 45 nm
64 bit Support No
Virtualization Technology Support Yes
Thermal Power 95W

 

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Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q9650 (12M Cache, 3.00 GHz, 1333 MHz FSB)

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Intel® Hyper-Threading Technology
Intel® Virtualization Technology
Intel® 64 Architecture
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep® Technology
Intel® Turbo Boost Technology
Demand Based Switching
Execute Disable Bit
Intel® Stable Image Platform Program (Intel® SIPP)
Intel® Trusted Execution Technology
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Ouch, yea, there isn't much point, imo, to own such a powerful processor if you're going to be limited to a 32bit system.

 

What are you talking about?

 

it'd be limited to xp or 32 bit vista, which limits ram...

Unless that's referring to something else.

 

Yes. I just saw that. Strange that it has no support for 64 bit. Probably is a typo. The intel page says that it has, newegg says it does not. I doubt that there is an processor now that does no support 64bit.

 

taken from intels site.
Intel® Xeon® Processor X3380 (12M Cache, 3.16 GHz, 1333 MHz FSB)
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Summary Information
Product Family Intel® Xeon® Processor
Code Name Products formerly Yorkfield
Product Status Announced
Launch Date Q1'09
Mfg Avail 2+ Yrs
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Intel® Virtualization Technology Yes
Intel® 64 Architecture Yes
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep® Technology Yes
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Demand Based Switching No
Execute Disable Bit Yes
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There was a typo like that on intels site which had xoticpc not recommending the T9800 as it "didn't have 64bit support". Was quickly cleared up as a typo once us at NBR heard about the foolishness.

 

Has anyone confirmed actually owning and using a Xeon X3380 Clevo currently?

 

I've seen a Xeon 3360 by Eurocom in one of these machines, but not a 3380.

 

For most current apps, wouldn't the E8600 be the fastest CPU at 3.33 clocking?

 

dual core 3.33 (E8600), or quad core 3.167 (X3380)?

For single/dual threaded apps it'll make very little difference, and for true multi-threaded apps, it'll make the world of difference.

 

I personally need the quad core. My last year of using q9450 showed me how good life is in the qud world. :-s

PL

 

So Theriko, do you think that my currently E8600 powered Clevo would fire up with a X3380 without any problems, beyond the empty wallet issue?

 

would love to hear the answer to that one as well....

 

Hey people why do you want to get this Xeon cpus you will get the same power from X3380 like Q9650 and in my opinion the Q9xxx are much better for games than Xeon

 

Clevo could just solve all our problems by giving us a new bios to OC... That way we wouldn't be nit picking over ~200mhz