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    Bioshock Infinite - Hows it working for you?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by cfcboy, Mar 27, 2013.

  1. cfcboy

    cfcboy Notebook Guru

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    Hi, ive just got the new Bioshock and running at full settings with the spec in my sig.

    Now runs well in most places, around max 60 FPS (vsync on) but I do seem be getting so pretty bad frame rate drops at times, its not a massive problem but a bit annoying when im a huge gun fight.

    Hows it working for other Clevo guys?
     
  2. omnid88

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    Its working pretty well for me. Like you said there is some stutter, it drops down to 40fps for 1 second and then goes back up. Looks like it lags when its loading a new area. I remember there was one air blimp fight that was especially laggy for me, but that was the exception more than the rule.

    Do you have the game running off ssd? or HDD or CD?
    I have the game running off an ssd through the SATA3 port.
     
  3. cfcboy

    cfcboy Notebook Guru

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    I have the game running direct from a SSD drive
     
  4. Prostar Computer

    Prostar Computer Company Representative

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    Could be optimization issues with the game and your hardware? I guess we won't know for certain until we get more feedback. I hear the game is amazing though!
     
  5. tobias_r33per

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    Loaded it up last night, running a fresh install of Win 7 x64.

    Game located on my RAID0 , 7970M with the latest 13.3beta3 Drivers, On Max Settings at 1080p, seems to run at 44fps adverage seen it go as low as 33fps and as high as 60fps so far.
     
  6. johnnyman27

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    +1 same as me with windows 8 64bit and 13.3 beta 3 drivers!!
     
  7. kookiesandmilf

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    turn down shadows or post processing. completed the game with a fluent 60...
     
  8. Coca

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    guys if you got some lags or little freezes wth random fps drops, just go to C:Users/name/Documents/my games/BioShock Infinite/XGameConfig open XEngine.ini. and change PoolSize from 400 to 1000.
     
  9. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    already finished the game?? :eek: damn some of u guys are fast...

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
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    An overwhelming majority of people report that this does absolutely nothing. It's just increasing the amount of vRAM the game utilizes, but people still report issues like stuttering, regardless of the change. The game should automatically calculate the optimum amount of vRAM to apply.
     
  11. kookiesandmilf

    kookiesandmilf Notebook Consultant

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    Free day + cant put the game down = finished bioshock in a day. ;)
     
  12. crosslimit

    crosslimit Notebook Evangelist

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    Well setting the value to 1200 (1.9 GB vRAM) combined with older 310.90 drivers fixed the whole stuttering for me. It probably was the drivers but this helps a bit I feel. I dunno, i mean what have you got to lose? I mean its not like you need that vram for anything else xD
     
  13. powerfull499

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    Just finished the game today. It runs great on the ATI 7970M, - I maxed everything, and it was a great experience. It is a beautiful game, and the atmosphere is amazing. However, in the middle of the game, I turned off DirectX 11 because I found out that it was originally designed for DirectX 10.1, - it didn't do much to the FPS and graphics though.

    The story of the game is nice, but the ending is a bit confusing. I don't think the ending is particulary bad, but I guess [minor spoiler incoming!] I hoped that Elisabeth got to experience Paris, haha.
     
  14. Zymphad

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    It is a UE3 game, which means it will always be unoptimized for PC, no matter how modded the developer claims their engine to be. You can't cage that the engine was made for consoles and PC as after thought. Epic Games really don't care you game on your PC. A company that chooses to partner with PhysX, is a company that doesn't care about the PC environment, an environment with gamers who use diverse hardware. Period. We are just lucky that AMD and Intel are better than Nvidia and Epic Games.

    UE3 is notorious for having dynamic shadows that is only beaten by Bethesda for garbage performance and appearance. Ambient occlusion wss something also just tacked on. And if there is AA it was just slapped on by third.party developer. Those are usually the three culprits for UE3 garbage on PC. Tweak those settings.
     
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    I installed it the day after getting my 9370-3D all set up to see how it would do with a game from the current crop (and I love Bioshock) and 10 hours later I was sitting watching the credits. I had everything maxerd out, and the only complaint I had was some screen tearing from time to time. The only complaint I do have is no official 3D, but DX11+ games will have issues with that.
     
  16. kookiesandmilf

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    bahahahaha unoptimized for pc? really?

    Yes it's and unreal title, not the greatest for pc's. But tell me, if infinite was so badly optimized, why can every single 7970m user, play the game fluently and stutter free on worlds most unoptimized card?
    Consider yourself lucky for having a PC to play on ultra with 60fps, rather than console version, that barely holds 30fps at low-medium settings...

    plus you have to give the engine a break, its quite old now...
     
  17. angrykenji

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    Running it on my 7970m on ultra with vsync and its all buttery smooth and so beautiful. AMAZING game and i plan to replay it two more times (first on hard, second on easy for missed achievements and third on 1999 mode w/o using the dollar vending machines)
     
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    On the complete highest settings I am seeing 40-50 FPS. I decided to lower shadows and post processing down one notch each, as a solid 60 FPS seems to be incredibly smoother and responsive.
     
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    i have to agree ultra + vsync on is much smoother, 90% of the stuttering stopped. i did still get some, but rarely.

    just beat the game, it was great... a bit confusing story line though.
     
  20. Meaker@Sager

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    I get some drops when it's streaming data from the HDD, otherwise very consistent results @ 1033/2600.
     
  21. noclips

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    Something must be very wrong with my setup. I am forced to play on low settings where it is still very laggy. I am still using the original windows 7 sager drivers from back in May because every attempt to update them has only made things generally worse as far as blue screens and games not using the GPU. After being forced to rollback to a restore point because it wouldn't boot, I gave up and went back to the originals. I have the BioShockInfinite.exe set to High Performance in the switchable graphics tab and MSI Afterburner says GPU usage is 100% when Bioshock Infinite is running so I don't know why me performance is so dismal. My setup is in my sig. Help
     
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    It's very likely the old drivers, there must be something getting in the way of the new graphics drivers.
     
  23. noclips

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    I just installed the 13.3 beta 3 drivers (no uninstall, no messing with the Intel HD 4000). I see no improvement. According to fraps, I'm getting around 17-20 fps on low settings.
     
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    Post up a few CPU/GPU usage and temperature graphs and let's have a look then.
     
  25. noclips

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    I loaded up the game, exited to make sure everything was monitoring, then played for a couple of minutes and here's what it looks like: http://i.imgur.com/YPvAazX.png
    I'm considering a format so I can start fresh with the latest drivers.

    EDIT: Here's the fraps benchmarking results http://i.imgur.com/cy048wQ.png
     
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    What are your GPU clocks doing over that period?
     
  27. noclips

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    I think we have discovered the problem. It is only running at 300MHz/150MHz according to GPU-Z. http://i.imgur.com/aFagxgP.png
    Now what could be causing that? And how do I bring back up to it's expected 850MHz/1200MHz?

    EDIT: I think GPU-Z labled my cards incorrectly and the HD 4000 is getting the readings of the 7970m. http://i.imgur.com/zUKYl8J.png Or maybe this is a clue to what is wrong with my system?
     
  28. radmarsh

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    Maybe worth double checking you have setup the switchable graphics to use the 7970 for bioshock?

    Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
     
  29. jaybee83

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    hmmm nope, the gpu-z readings of ur IGP are fine. definitely check if uve got ur system set to high performance in windows, in ur hotkey tool and also in ur switchable graphics menu, especially for the bioshock infinite.exe
    and also make sure to be plugged in, and not on battery! :p just covering all the bases here ;)

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  30. Meaker@Sager

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    Your GPU is refusing to enter 3d clocks.... This can happen after a crash or with the drivers misbehaving or with a setting like performance in the CCC set to power saving.

    Or your AC adapter is cutting out and you are gaming on battery without realising it.
     
  31. noclips

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    I have it set to High Performance in switchable graphics but not sure how to check for it in windows or the hotkey tool? My CCC

    I have everything set to High Performance because I am always plugged in. I think something deep in the system is screwed up so I am just going to format, install the 13.3 beta 3 drivers fresh and hope for the best. I'll report back.
     
  32. SynergyUK

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    3630, 8GB, 680m, Samsung 840 Pro.

    Running the game at a constant 60FPS but I do get stuttering when loading areas. (Coming from a Momentus XT to the 840 Pro, i thought may have solved this but its not made a blind bit of difference.)

    1080p, everything on ultra, only shadows and post processing turned down one notch.
     
  33. jaybee83

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    just check ur power/energy options in the windows control panel. or u can also just click on the battery icon in ur task bar. as for the hotkey tool, it should show u a small laptop icon in ur extended taskbar (with the lil white arrow pointing upwards). either doubleclick or rightclick on it to open up the tool gui and change the powersettings to high perf :)

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  34. noclips

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    Thanks for the help everyone, I am back up to speed. Here's how it went for any future 7970m users in trouble out there:

    Clean windows format, install chipset drivers, install catalyst 13.3 beta 3 drivers - Lots of problems, don't do this. The 13.3 drivers don't include the integrated HD 4000 drivers so I started back over....

    Clean windows format again, install chipset drivers, install original 7970m drivers from Sager, then install 13.3 beta 3 drivers without uninstalling anything, install remaining lan, usb 3.0, etc drivers. And now I am playing at full speed 60fps. Time to create a restore point! I must have been running on the integrated graphics for months and just kinda gotten used to it.
     
  35. Meaker@Sager

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    Always good to start off with the original manufacturer drivers for switchable setups.
     
  36. HolyZesto

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    This game is making me nervous. It runs great on the highest settings (with the AMD 7970) but my temperatures start going crazy. I was playing for about 30 minutes yesterday and when I check them speedfan claimed my GPU was at 100 C. Usually it says around 70 when I'm playing games. I don't know if speedfan isn't detecting correctly, but right now I'm a little scared to play the game. Has anybody else seen this?

    EDIT: Installed new drivers from January. It seems to be going a little better, temps are hovering around 80 C. Hopefully it will stay that way.
     
  37. Jaycob

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    Likewise! This game really stresses the GPU, even with V-sync. Since it is not CPU intensive, utilization of the GPU is way higher than usual, thus resulting on higher temperatures. I had to knock back my overclocking to keep temperatures around 80ºC :(.

    Also this game is a prime example to help illustrate the frame latency issue with the 7970m. Some of the drops in the FPS result in frame time going from 20 or so milisecs to more than 100 milisecs :/. The average framerate is more than acceptable, and the game and story are awesome :)
     
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    Ive found it to be much lighter than crisis 3...
     
  39. Jaycob

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    It is definetly lighter in terms of CPU than crysis 3. In terms of GPU used, it stressed my 7970m like no benchmark had (even though it doesn't use many most DX11 goodies as Crysis does). I'd have a usual utilization of more than 95%, only dropping when some CPU processing was required (running scene transition scripts, heavy fighting scenes). Crysis, on the other had, would rarely touch 90% utilization, due to more intense CPU usage. It is odd, as in Crysis I wouldn't notice frame latency so much. but on this game, you do get to actually "see it" from time to time. MSI Afterburned confirmed there were some huge spikes every now and then, with frames sometime taking up to 5x or 6x the time to render.

    Can't wait to see the new drivers AMD should be lining up...
     
  40. Meaker@Sager

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    It's the GPU that seems far less stressed *shrugs* of course AMD/Nvidia will show different characteristics depending on the game.
     
  41. Jaycob

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    Speaking of AMD/Nvidia, I was quite surprised to have an AMD game also make use of Nvidia's PhysX! I suppose that would allow us to have the best of both worlds... I have yet to end Bioshock, but like a good book, I just hope I'll never finish it :)