Bought a NP5790 today!

Real pumped up and cant wait till Friday.
Specs are:
- I7 3820
- 680M SLI
- 8 gigs of 1600 ram. (Plan on going 1866 in the near future.)
- 72% gamut 120Hz screen.
- 1103 Killer wireless card.
- 240GB Agility 3
- 750GB 7200 RPM Hard drive
- Sager Blu-ray reader.


I had it rushed and overnighted. Could be here Thursday or Friday.

Lol NP9570 SORRY SCREWED UP THE TITLE. ITS LATE. OH WELL. LOL

 

Awesome build! I was confused by the title figured it out

 

Pretty killer spec for a laptop there buddy :thumbsup:

 

Thanks. Cant wait to see his thing in person.

 

Tell Jason and Megan thanks for the great support. So far I have felt very comfortable dealing with you guys. I do not drop that kind of dough to a company I really have not dealt with in the past before. Hope that our relationship as customer and seller continues on the path it is on. Cant wait till Friday.

Thanks. I almost went with a NP9370 with a I7-3840qm with sli 680m graphic cards. I thought through this and decided that a desktop processor would be more cost effective to upgrade in the future as well as parts should be easier to come by. Plus, the cooling on the NP9570 seemed to be superior to the NP9370. Overall I think I made the right choice and this should bring me years of high end gaming, video editing, and video encoding. Now I can take it with me on the go.

 

Well you are still normally under the same generation limitation as notebooks (though you may get ivybridge-e something the mobile versions are effectively on) since you can't upgrade the motherboard.

Also mobile processors are not that hard to get hold of, you can try contacting resellers if you like but there are loads on ebay and since CPUs are pretty hardy devices and mobile versions don't tend to get overclocked hard like their desktop CPUs.

 

Ok initial impressions.
- Heavy
- Looks way better in person. Looks like you bought a premium product.
- 72% 120hz screen is awesome.
- Fans are very quiet while gaming.
- Gaming performance is good as of now. That is with Rift on Ultra and Planetside 2 on high. I have not done any serioud tweaking yet.

 

I can't imagine you would need to do any "serious" tweaking with dual 680m cards and an i7 3820.

Any plans to upload gameplay on those high settings with said games to YouTube? I'm sure there would be a few out there that would envy the fluidity the SLI setup you have gives those games!

 

Well I just started benchmarking the system and scores for 3d mark11 are dropping with every test with no change to any settings. Not good. Best I have gottenso far is a little over 10000. I was hoping for higher given the setup.

 

Honestly my desktop setup was not to far off in performane from this.

 

Awesome scores still, but strange. Drivers are updated? Any spikes in temperature? Fans kicking in when they are supposed to?

 

Ok now I have some questions about my Np9570. I have noticed on 3dmark11 results that with a 3820 to a 3970x everyone is benching right around 10500-10800. An Alienware M18x with same video cards and a 3940XM is benching is the 15000+ range. Sounds like either a specific problem relating with the NP9570 or a driver issue. The bios is really restrictive and I cant see if Turbo boost is turned on or what is going on with the processor. What are some good tools to try and troubleshoot that issue.

BTW I ran 3dmark11 after letting the laptop off for an hour and got a P9400 score. Keeps getting lower and lower.

 

Ok found out turbo boost is off. Whats the point of a desktop processor if they restrict it to mobile proc performance.

 

Escalated these issues with Sager today. Seems a NP9370 with a 3630 will 3Dmark11 as high and higher stock. Lets see what comes cof this.

 

Not sure I understand. Are you escalating the matter because Turbo Boost is still inhibiting your 3Dmark11 scores?

 

No not at all just pointing out that fact. Escalating the issue because lesser equipped systems with no overclocking are getting better numbers. I just saw a 3630 680sli np9370 score a 11000+ score. If they are getting these numbers so should I. The 3820 benches faster than ghe 3840qm. I honeslty think there maybe some driver issues at this point and just pointing out what i have found. If there is no resolution in sight i will return this guy and get a 3630 equipped 680m sli np3630. Its cheaper and pumps out good numbers .

Just for clarity. I LIKE this system alot. I just think it has more in it than what its currently doing. In 3D Mark 11 the same Np9570 with a 3970X is only in the 10000 range. I would say all is well but lesser systems are putting out better numbers stock. I really want to work this out asap. I like the way this thing looks. I like the fact that its all in one package versus strung out over a desk. Infact I am thinking about downsizing my work area into a corner desk, but will not make that decision until I get this figured out. This system I truly believe has some great potential.

 

Ah okay, I see where you're coming from. I certainly hope you get it figured out! Have you run any redundancy tests for benching? Recorded your FPS in a game or two? Run another GPU specific benchmark program? If you like while you wait on Sager:

oZone3D.Net - Free Softwares: graphics card utilities, system utilities, GPU stress test, benchmarks

 

Update from Sager. Its supposed to be the way it is. Meaning a less powerful cheaper laptop NP9370 is supposed to be more powerful. I asked this question directly and I was told that my NP9570 is doing what its supposed to do with the benchmarks I sent in. Guess if nothing new happens I will be returning my notebook back to Xotic PC. If the manufacture doesnt think there is an issue then I dont see any effort coming to fix it. To bad I wished the flagship notebook was truly the flagship.

 

lol seriously? They said it's "supposed" to be that way?

My 2 cents: return the NP9570 and go with an M18x. NP9370s are known to have cooling issues, espsecially with the slave gpu. The m18x has superior build quality, cooling, warranty, and benchmarking. If you call in and speak with a rep you can get a heavy discount, putting it within a hundred or two dollars of a similarly equipped NP9370.

You probably paid close to $4k for the NP9570, right? That kind of money will get you an M18x with a 3940XM, which will wax you NP9570 in benchmarks.

 

Call Dell direct or a reseller? Yeah they told me my scores are normal and when i pointed out that the NP9370 is faster. They said it was normal. So I may either look into the Alienware or build another desktop.

 

You're better of with an m18x as I already pointed out in a previous thread. Clevo's sli systems aren't worth it.

 

....and thats why you always want to ask us (the forum members) and the reseller first, before any 4k$ purchase.

1.) Clevo 570WM is a server machine in a somewhat "portable" format.
Hence, the 6-core desktop processors and no turbo boost.
In a server you want the maximum number of threads you can get (12-threads and Xeon Processor support are standard on 570WM).

Its NOT a gaming machine, despite some misleading advertisements as being "the most powerful gaming laptop in the world".

2.) Another thing you should have known before purchase - the Intel-E desktop processors (Extreme series) are ALWAYS one year behind their consumer counterparts.
What this means is this: you are getting a Sandy Bridge-E processor, which is slower than the mobile Ivy Bridge series (and its also more expensive).
To upgrade with an Ivy Bridge-E, you will have to spend another 600-800$ in 5 months from now, because thats when these will hit the market. And I doubt they will be faster than Haswell mobile versions (in dual-core anyways).
Why are you buying a server laptop if you will be using it for gaming? You dont need 12-threads for that, you need only dual to quad core with maximum clock speeds.

Return it and this time carefully think about your next purchase.
If I were you, I'd wait 4 months for the next gen hardware and buy a SINGLE GPU laptop + a 800 series Core i7 from the Haswell lineup.
Why spend money on SLI? Do you even need that kind of setup? It can bring a lot more problems than a single GPU configuration.
And a gtx780m will be close enough to dual gtx680m in SLI.

....buying a server machine for gaming.....lol

 

I mostly agree with you except for one thing. A single 780m will be nowhere near an m18x with two 680m's.

My advice would be to wait for haswell and the 780m's and get the following:
-m18x
-4800mq
-8gb 2133mhz kingston ram
-780m sli
-What ever storage option you want. A samsung 840 500gb is a damn fast option if you don't do any write heavy stuff.

 

Call Alienware direct and speak with a representative. I can pm you the contact info of the reps that I've gotten systems from in the past, and there is a ton of advice on how to get a good deal in the AW section. I highly recommend going with the M18x.

Why would he want SLI? Perhaps he wants the most performance possible in a mobile setup. 680m sli is significantly more powerful than a single 680m, and no where near as problematic as a 7970m cfx setup.

And a single 780m won't come anywhere close to a 680m sli setup. Improvements will be relatively minor this time around. I agree that it would be nice to upgrade with Haswell, but why wait 4 months he wants one now? There's always something better around the corner when it comes to tech, so there's no sense holding off for months if you really want a laptop now.

edit: Black beat me to it lol

 

Can I get a m18x for $3300. That is what I paid for my system.

 

That would depend on your haggling with the Dell reps

 

HUH? That's not how it works on our P570's, it turbo boosts all day long, they may have messed something up in their BIOS or something, but I know for a fact that ours can turbo-boost AND overclock, especially on the 3820 and 3930k's (They have more room thermally )

 

Ok I will definitely consider this. I did some more research into the X79 chipset. I may have found my bottle neck. I am currently running duel channel memory. I have actually found a article on where someone benchmark the difference of dual channel vs quad channel. The results was a difference of a 1000 points in score in 3DMark11. DDR3 Memory Performance Analysis on Intel X79 - A Look At Channel Scaling From Single to Quad - Legit Reviews. That being said I would think that first could be an issue. Now I am going to do some HD video encoding. I do a far amount of that so this is where this system should shine.

 

Okay did a test on my own to see if the "extra" horsepower was worth it using Handbrake to encode my Skyfall Blu-ray to 720 format to watch on my Samsung Galaxy S3. Usually with the I7 960 it took about three to four house. This took an 1 1/2 hours. WAY FASTER. Can the mobile ivy bridges do this. If you are curious I am in the process of moving my Blurays to my home server and converting it all to mobile format. Temps never broke 75C. Not to bad.

 

Yes you can. I paid less than $3k for mine after taxes (list price was $3500 on the website, they dropped it down to $2800 before tax.) I would go with the 3740qm or 3840qm, 680m sli, a few years of warranty, and then upgrade the ram and hard drive yourself (Dell overcharges for ram and hdd upgrades.)

 

I have to know if the mobile processors can do the encoding like in this example at the same speed or faster.

 

Thanks for this information. I will consider this if i decide that this NP9570 will not work and I decide to stay with a mobile platform.

 

A 4.6ghz 3920xm would likey be in that region.