C'ya Sager/Clevo. The NP5796 trounced by a... W700!

That's right.

Check the spec sheet for the quadro FX 3700M.

128 shaders baby. That's unbelievable.

Here I come w700! I cannot believe Lenovo made a lighter sager that's actually slim and it's... a LENOVO.

WOW I'm so excited

 

Link, please! Slugs like me are too lazy to look up things for ourselves.

 

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_quadro_fx_3700_m_us.html.

128 shaders. 51.2 GB/s..
Oh and it's got CUDA

 

I'd still take my SLI 9800GTs for gaming over a quadro. It is a sexy looking laptop tho

 

Good, I'd rather have a 7 lb 17" sexy lenovo with quad core out of the box and great support (I'm sure Xotic, etc does too, but this is Lenovo!) and the best part.. IT'S 7 FREAKING POUNDS AND THIN!

 

nice, im going to consider getting this "w700"

 

Are you buying it for OpenGL/CAD types of work, or gaming?

 

"the W700 starts at $2,978 and moves skyward from there" - nevermind.

 

Gaming, it's irrelevant to ask that anyways.
This thing has way higher wattage. It's 75W.

Trust me when I say this things clocks will be equal to the gtx, TO SAY THE LEAST.
75 watts! Man that Lenovo Chassis must be bigger than Jesus, as lennon would say

 

Yes, although in synthetic benchmarks it might compete, real world gaming performance tends to fall short on quadro cards compared to GTs and GTXs. Wow that thing gets price FAST. http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/...001A58:&smid=653343E0DE54435882FABC3CE1BC569A

 

Oh yeah, I didn't say affordable. I know there are people in this forum who want top dollar performacne so I'm sharing with them. I know it's a niche product.

I agree NCG1589, in the past the quadro would be slower in clocks.. I highly doubt it with this thing. 128 shaders and 75W TDP is very very high so it sure sounds like they're gunning for a versatile computing science person

 

Hold on, I'm still not clear as to whether quadro card can in any way beat a GT or GTX in sli...I thought gtx in sli is the non-plus-ultra for gaming

 

Well if you want a 10 pound notebook sure.
This provides a 7 pound 17" notebook about an inch thick with quad core support and a quadro fx that uses 75w and has 128 shaders. Of course it will lose to certain SLI cards, but it's the single best performing card out there with a memory bandwidth equivalent to the 98gtx. Look at the memory interface as well, 256-bit. This thng is gonig to be a beast.

 

I like it, but not the price.

I don't see any Quad Core option in the configuration page.

 

Fair enough, it's not affordable at all; but this is exactly what I've waited for.

I've finally found my notebook with no compromise.

An inch thick, 17" (was only going for this if it was skinny/light/fast), qx9300, quadro, ddr3, powerhouse, warranty, name.

Surei t's ugly like all Lenovo's but hey it's a lenovo... Man I'm lickn my chops

 

Looks like a nice machine but expensive (around 700-800 more than a similar Sager).

It's dimensions aren't on the lenovo site but I found a set at some of the preview sites. They're similar to the NP5796. Lenovo's footprint is a bit bigger but it's a little thinner.

Lenovo - 16.14x12.20x1.63in 8.31lb
Sager - 15.6x11.5x1.8in 8.35lb

 

so comparing it to a 5796, will it do about just as well as a 9800gtx? Why doesn't lenovo stick in a 9800gtx straight away?

 

I think the lenovo is with battery though concerning the weight.

And yeah the thing I like about the lenovo is it doesn't have an elevated base that's sort of tapered. It's a completely flush design. The sager is kind of fatter on that back. And I think that's a true 1.6 unlike alienware who had it larger than that :/

 

IBM products are well built. I have a 770ED ThinkPad with Pentium II, Win95, 64MB RAM and 4GB HD that STILL WORKS. It's been dropped by my kids several times, milk & soda pop spills, etc. Through it all, this thing still fires up and works well enough to surf the web, check emails, and I use it still sometimes for word processing. Battery still works and lasts 2 hrs.

 

I think both the lenovo and sager include the battery with the weight.

I like lenovo designs as well but if I was buying one of them - I'd get one of their super thin portable notebooks over this one (spend the difference on a desktop for games).

 

Because the B in IBM stands for BUSINESS. It's geared toward business applications such as CAD.

 

I have a desktop I just dno't talk about it lol. There's really no reason to.
This thing will not be outperformed graphically by a 9800 GTX (A singular one, of course) and that's a guarantee. However the price isn't something that's geared for "gamers". This notebook looks like "The business" and gives you "the business"

 

Technically, Thinkpads aren't made by IBM anymore. Lenovo bought IBM's PC division back 2005.

But Thinkpads are part of Lenovo's business line while Ideapads are their consumer line.

 

it is definitely for CAD, it got that graphic pad near the mouse pad, which is pretty sweet but I don't really need it. In addition, it is about $1500 over my budget limit, maybe I will spend this much money in like 10 years...

 

Uhh the laptop does not have a quad core option. It also has a horrible price to ability ratio.

 

Uhh it does, it's announced officially by lenovo if you look aruond.

Who cares about price to ability...

 

Buy what you like if you got the dough!

 

The W700 looks great no doubt but I'd hang on for the HP 8730w/p. I'm in the market for a 17" in next coming mths and the true 8 bit lcd panel on the HP sure is tempting. Quad core doesn't hurt either. I love Thinkpads but the new HP sure is definitely worth considering.

Let's just say that these machine make sense for those doing CAD work (and can justify the extra $$) but they're equally capable for gaming too. I dualboot Vista and XP...with gaming drivers on XP and plan to do the same on my next laptop.

 

Woa that is one expensive piece of machinery... pff.

 

so the thinkpad will equid. quad core and FX 3700M? man that's like my dream.

 

Yeah i wouldnt quite call this thing trouncing the 5796. Id like to see some benchies also.

 

Considering the W700 board also support Core 2 Due processors and have the same DDR3 memory as M860TU, does that makes the M860TU also capable of supporting Quad Core processors?

 

The motherboard probably will yes, depending on the bios. But the laptop itself and its chassis won't be able to because of the heat produced by quad cores, which the laptop won't be able to handle.

=fried hardware.

 

Where have you heard that Quad cores would produce more heat? I thought only increase the clock produce more heat, but increase number of cores doesn't, that is why Intel and AMD only increased number of cores now to prevent heat to increase...

 

ever read the sticky? "Sager has confirmed with Clevo that the M860TU will not support 44W+ processors or the 9800M GTX because of the thermal budget!"

 

can i have your stuff?

 

I read it long time ago, but are they talking about quad core or are they talking about Extreme core 2 Duo?

But that is not really the main point, the main point is that how do we know the quad core processors are much hotter than the core 2 duos? I am asking this because eventually Intel will have these quad core processors in 14 inches, I am sure they will have temperature reduced enough before they can use those processors...

 

because quad core consumes 45W, more power, more heat, isn't that simple?

 

Forgot to explain this equation:

U (internal Energy) =Q (heat transfer) + W (work)

it is true that more power would mean more heat, but it can also be converted to work.

That's not all, I think Intel will have to make lower Watts CPU for laptops, because not all laptops are 17 inches.

 

So rude mate. What you're using it for and price to ability are usually the first things people look at. You don't have to justify your purchase to anyone, so please don't be so rude and defensive.

kk?

 

it may br powerfull, but its ugly... whats with the two different coloured enter buttons? the specs may be awesome, but the design is like 10 yrs old

at least the 5796 has amazing power, looks good and has an amazing price

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=284922

Supposedly, it's Quad Core capable, but I don't see that option offered on the lenovo website. That Wacom digitizer is NICE!

 

you call it ugly I can it professional...

 

its so plain, with the dull black finish, i have a laptop thats at least 6 yrs old and has the same design/finish. at least make it glossy looking. or something other than just plain dull black.

 

I agree it is dull black but some business professionals like the dull black, they think it is more business like. And perhaps looks more conservative when they use laptop in front of their customers and stock holders?

 

Yeah eleron, the config I want is topping $3700! (2.53 Ghz / WUXGA / 2gb / FX3700 / 200gb HD)

Yikes!

 

you dont think that any of the hp's look has a more appealing look to it?

im just wondering because if i was going for a work/ business laptop, id go for all looks but this is just IMO.

 

and whats that good about what you have in that config for that price??

i just wanna know what people find so good about these. if your not doing any gaming, how much power do you need? this thing has decent specs you can get on something thats 2000$ less and that has 4GB of RAM. and since its for all work, isint more ram better for multitasking?

this is IMO, im not trying to start a whole thing or anything

 

Didn't mean to sound rude there, bud.
I am just saying price/performance is irrelevant for me, I've been waiting for a great laptop like this for a while.

And I was saying Gaming is irrelevant in response to the "gaming card is faster" notion. I say this because this card is going to be super powerful, and will no doubt have the same clocks as the 9800 GTX at the very least. The memory bandwidth is alreayd proving that.
75W is alot , man.

 

If size isn't a concern for you it's nothing special.

I want a nice, thin, big laptop that packs a punch. Lenovo's support for a quad core and fx 3700M will no doubt attract buyers like me because it's barely 8 pounds and about 1.6" thick with the screen (Unlike alienware whose m15x is much thicker) so I"m very excited.