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    CAT 12.7 Beta - 7970M Support

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by sirana, Jun 20, 2012.

  1. sirana

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    ah, finally, about time! :) anyone with a 7970M willing to test these out and compare performance to the modded 12.5 beta drivers?

    cheers
     
  3. sirana

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    Well this one works very good for BF3 and Crysis 2.
    Skyrim's still flickering for me and they broke Crossfire scaling in Bad Company 2 again, which is fixed in the 9.00 unofficial beta.
     
  4. crosslimit

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    I dont get it, the 12.6 beta drivers are 9.00, why are these 12.7, 8.98s??

    sorry for noob question, used to use nvidia...
     
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    Look its fairly easy
    12.7 is Year.Month of intended release
    8.98 is actual driver family branch

    Meaning that you should look out for the second number and give a damn about the Year.Month number. Some WHQL's as the 12.4 don't even write the 12.4 in the Catalyst Info Tab.
     
  7. Kenneth Peh

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    Doesnt work for me :(
     
  8. sirana

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    what doesn't work? Installation? Gaming? Do you get a bluescreen?
    Did you deinstall previous drivers properly?
     
  9. Kenneth Peh

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    No blue screen. The drivers somehow was not installed properly. (Displayed a warning message at end of installation but they did not describe the error). After restart, Catalyst could not detect the gpu.
     
  10. p1n0yBaLLeR

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    Downloading nao, the 12.6 beta barely gave me any better performance on bf3.
     
  11. shekers

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    Yeah that happens sometimes when you're just installing on top of your current drivers. Not sure why. To cure this, uninstall your current drivers, use drivers sweeper and install the new drivers from scratch.
     
  12. arcticjoe

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    had the same thing, reinstalling intel graphics drivers worked to a certain extent but catalyst control centre reported that this driver is unsupported :(
     
  13. XMG

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    One of our customers used this method:

    Install the official Clevo 7970M package without installing the actual display driver. Then install only the display driver from the Guru3D package. This results in a disabled CCC and disabled Enduro + the expected increased benchmark results. Loads of fun.. :D
     
  14. awakeN

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    But wait, there is no Enduro issue with the Clevos, so what'll be hte point of that?
     
  15. arcticjoe

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    so just to clarify... install official clevo driver, leave driver unticked, restart and install 12.7 driver only?
     
  16. james_het

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    yeah very interested in this me too please help us Clevo customers :-(




    and yeah sadly Clevo too is afflicted by enduro, there are at least 2/3 3ds only on this forum about that :confused:
     
  17. arcticjoe

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    didnt work for some reason. my 7970m says there was a problem with this driver in device manager and when i try to run any games it runs on intel hd graphics card.
     
  18. unpilot

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    Jesus...AMD drivers....sigh.
     
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    yeah same :-(
     
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    Could you find out some more about how he did this? I have tried several methods and have not had any luck with it.
     
  21. sirana

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    Weird. Did you use ATIman uninstaller or Driver Sweeper for uninstalling the previous ones, to fresh install this new driver? If not, you should try this.
     
  22. p1n0yBaLLeR

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    I think it has to be right after a clean windows 7 install. Install all the drivers from the stock DVD drivers except the VGA driver right? then only install the 12.7 from Guru3D? Anyone want to try this? I don't want to install/download everything if its just not gonna work, only doing it when someone confirms it will work.
     
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    i tried both, still the same error, screenshot attached.
     

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    Did you have the intel HD4000 driver still installed before installing the 12.7 beta?

    I first uninstalled the 12.6 beta (complete uninstall of amd software) and realized the intel drivers were still installed but catalyst option when right clicking is gone. So I installed the 12.7 and its working, didn't even need to re-boot! Problem is enduro is still on, and yes, my performance on BF3 is still about the same as the stock drivers. Overclocking on 900/1400 I still get the same FPS around 30-70 (bounces around), and also the temps went all the way to 75C. Even lowering the resolution and turning off MSAA I STILL get 30-70 and sometimes all the way down to 20 FPS. MSI says I was using 95% GPU power. It has to be the lack of driver support for ENDURO to work properly. It's like even when the game is set to high performance enduro still kicks in and makes FPS drop sometimes. Alienware users with enduro disabled say they get 50-60 stable fps on stock clocks.
     
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    I get the same as arcticjoe.

    Come on AMD! Sort it out!
     
  26. p1n0yBaLLeR

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    I got that too, then I installed the Intel HD4000 driver (enabling enduro) and now catalyst works. But I'm getting the same performance on BF3 ans the stock drivers...
     
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    Yes, I did exactly what you said but drivers still not installed properly.
     
  28. p1n0yBaLLeR

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    Like I said before, you need to have the intel HD4000 drivers installed before the new catalyst driver can identify the 7970m. I tried what you are doing and got the same thing, then i enabled HD4000 driver and the new catalyst finally worked (even though I still get the same performance on games...)
     
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    These drivers won't work, they aren't switchable capable. You can't just upgrade one driver (AMD) and not the other (Intel) at the same time, there are specific filter drivers that have to go inbetween. Its not quite like the nV drivers where the intel and nV drivers are de-coupled. The AMD switchable system HAS to have monolithic (AMD + Intel) drivers or it won't work.

    Now for those with a 7970m in a HM series (No switchable) these will work great :p
     
  30. p1n0yBaLLeR

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    Wow, now even the older clevo's will have better performance with 7970m than the ones who bought the newer model... this isn't fair.
     
  31. jaybee83

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    ha, at least one advantage for HM users :D

    hm, weird tho, isnt it? i mean, are there any (officially supported) laptops out there with a 7970M that DO NOT support switchable graphics?
     
  32. p1n0yBaLLeR

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    I mean if clevo was able to figure out to get the HM models to work with the 7970m AND make it able to run without enduro on, then for sure they can make the em models do the same. Do you mind starting a petition for Clevo to make the EM models be able to disable enduro? :D I supported yours last time...
     
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    So for those of us on 150EM systems with enduro + 7970m, what is currently the best driver solution?
     
  34. Grug7

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    I believe the 12.7 beta are working pretty good for most people (myself included). It took me a bit to get them working, but they appear to be more stable in many games.
     
  35. Kenneth Peh

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    How did you get them to work? A simple uninstall and reinstall of drivers?
     
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    Yeah I would love to know how you got them working. I've uninstalled everything AMD related, and used driver sweeper to get rid of the left overs but every time I install the 12.7 fresh it says there is not a compatible graphics card. :(
     
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    Alright I've tried the 12.7 drivers again after stripping all others off, and device manager notes that windows has stopped the device due to a code 43 error. Catalyst will not start because it doesn't recognize the 7970m.
     
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    You're sure a determined fella. :)

    I'm just gonna wait until AMD gets off their butts and provides some real support for this card. I kicked myself in the head for a couple of days trying to upgrade the driver. It's not worth the hassle at this point.
     
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    This is true, I used the uninstalled everything amd and intel graphics related stuff, installed the 12.7 files, and it reinstalled the intel drivers, and the SAME stock catalyst driver version 8.951.6.0 (stock clevo one). This is getting ridiculous. we need official amd drivers for enduro asap, or clevo to let us be able to disable it. We didn't buy a 7970m laptop for mediocre performance and high battery life, it's the other way around...
     
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    how did you get them working? i've removed any trace of ATI driver via ATI manager and then ran Driver Sweeper, reinstalled my intel driver, tried to manually install 7970m driver, etc. Nothing worked, I've got the same Error 43 in device manager, like it couldnt see the card even though it did during driver installation.
     
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    Same Here ... Damn AMD ...
     
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    Sorry for not being clearer, I have posted this info in another 7970m + enduro thread.

    Anyway, following slickdudes recommendation. I installed the stock drivers from the cd that came with my clevo. I then opened up the 12.7 beta > 'install' > 'custom' > then deselect all options except 'display driver'.

    Thats what I did, and it worked. I did have some trouble like you guys originally, but after reading slickdudes advice in another thread, it worked out fine (fingers crossed)

    hope this helps
     
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    Have you noticed any performance gains or better benchmark scores at all compared to stock driver?
     
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    Ah, so you installed clevo driver fully first? That's where I went wrong then, as I've installed everything from clevo's amd package but the driver itself. Will try that when I get home today

    Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
     
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    That makes sense, since in an another thread it said the iGPU ran the display while the 7970M only ran the rendering...

    is enduro still disabled for you machine?
     
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    After reading/lurking and seeing no one has gotten this figured out completely, I too will wait. :)

    At this point, it's better to have a working one than a broken one.
     
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    Because I really am a determined fella, I'll try this suggestion Grug7 gave and report back. Lol thanks!
     
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    I can confirm that this method works to install the 12.7 driver, but unfortunately it did not fix the problem with GPU under utilization in 3dmark06 and other games... looks like Enduro still works, but I no longer need to launch a 3d application for MSI Afterburner to see my 7970m, its there all the time.
     
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    So do these drivers work well with the 7970m?
     
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    seems like the 12.5 mod ones are still the best to go perf. and stability wise...

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