CLEVO M570TU and GTX 280m owners please post your temps

Hello.

I just wanted to start a new thread because my sager np5797 is in sager tech support because of overheating problems.


my idle temps in vista never go down of 43°C and playing wow, crysis and grid the gtx 280m reach 105°C.

i´ve never overclocked the gpu. i dont like to play with those very expensive parts

my room temp is 25°C .

right now sager tech support told me that my laptop doesn´t have any overheating problems because 99°C is fine for the gtx 280m. i think that sager is wrong.

when i told them that some owners have idle temps of 34°C they laughed about it and they told me "thats imposibble, 44°C idle is fine".

i have 44°C idle temps even with my fans set on max so i know that there is something wrong about it. i use nvidia´s 186.03 from their website.

Please CLEVO USERS post screenshots to prove sager that they are wrong.

Thank you very much.

 

Well I have a 9800m gtx so that doesn't really help you but I would say anything over 95°C for a long period of time Is gonna be trouble for the card and it probably as won't last long.

Is your card downclocking at all when its reaching 105? Not sure what the automatic downclock settings are with the newer nvidia cards.

My card will usually idle around 48 - 52. Its at 52 right now with no gaming and with fans at normal bios settings. However even with these idle temps, I and can play crysis, l4d etc. and the max temp I reach will usually be around 89 with fans high.

When was the last time you cleaned out the dust inside your laptop?

 

the laptop is brand new, i´ve used for about 2 weeks. i replaced the thermal compound. the notebook is in sager service right now and they are telling me that everything is fine

 

To me your idle temps don't seem that bad, but gaming at 99°C is terrible so hopefully the other 280m guys can help you out.

 

yeah the idle temps are not a problem but gaming at 105°C is a big problem

 

I don't qualify, but even my M860ETU's 280M doesn't get that hot, even in Furmark or ATITool.

 

well the np5797 has better cooling. please 5482741 post your temps to send to sager tech support.

 

If Sager's tech support is being an *** and telling you "105C under heavy load is fine lolz!", you may want contact your reseller instead; they'll be nicer with you and will surely get your laptop fixed... they have a reputation to mantain, unlike Sager, who don't have much competition so they dont care much.

 

i just got my clevo 570tu from rjtech and the 280m idles at 42c. i havent really played any games yet so i will definitly let you know what it is. anyways how are you controlling the fans?

 

This is how to control the fans. http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5007292&postcount=10

Fn + 1 sets both fans to maximum speed.
The button with the "A" to the left of the power button activates silent mode.

 

Sorry for the poor formatting. Just pasted this from a work in progress 9800M GTX 280M Comparison sheet.

nvidia 9800M vs GTX 280m Benchmark Results

Application 9800M GTX 9800M Temp GTX 280M 280 Temps
3DMark 05 17325 68 18237 66
3DMark 06 10555 71 11615 68
3DMV P 5376 73 5802 69
Sandra 2009 core 130MP/sec 68 138 59
Sandra 2009 mem 61GB/sec 61 38 55
PCMark Vantage x64 5347 70 5411 64
OCCT - 1hr NA 85 NA 80
Flight Simulator X DX10 34 73 39 69
Crysis 64 16 77 21 73
GTA IV 25 74 29 69
Track Mania United 38.7 68 43 64
WEI Graphics 6.8 67 6.8 66C
WEI Gaming 6.8 68 6.8 66C
Idle 49 46C

 

My temps are
idle: 35-40C (room temp ~ 20C)
GTAIV with cooler: 75C @(680-1000-1700)-(room temp ~ 20C)
GTAIV w/o cooler: 93C @(600-1000-1500) (room temp ~ 30C)
GTAIV with cooler: 89C @(600-1000-1500) (room temp ~ 30C)
COD5 with cooler: 80 @(600-1000-1500) (room temp ~ 30C)
COD5 with cooler: 70 @(680-1000-1700) (room temp ~ 20C)

so 93C is my highest

 

^Didn`t know the roomtemperature had that big of an impact, looking at the COD5 difference and the clocks.

 

We forget room temp does have a big impact.

 

my room temp is 25ºC so i dont live in a desert. please keep posting your temps. thank you very much for all your help.

 

Overvolted and overclocked 630/1575/1000, ~85C tops in WaW, Crysis, GTA4, etc. Stock voltage and lower clocks, ~75C tops.

 

i´ve been talking with sager tech support and they still think that reach 99°C during a furmark test or heavy 3D applications is normal. i don´t know how to prove that they are wrong, if someone knows what should i do please help me

 

Mine does the same thing.

My Idle temp is 54

Stock voltage and clocks I get up to the high 90s while on a cooler running Furmark and my GPU crashes.

Also happens in CoD5 and WoW.

I checked the thermal paste, cleared off the paste from the processor and reapplied but same thing.

EDIT: I should also add I've been emailing Sager for over 2 months regarding the issue and never receive a reply.

 

you should contact your reseller if you bought it through a reseller. sager never answer my mails too. but xoticpc support was very usefull and they are taking care of my trouble.

 

How's the battle coming along so far, jupapri?

 

Wow this is ridiculous. My Sager NP8660 with the 280m idle around 40-45 and max temp when heavy gaming is around 85-88 in about the same room temp as yours. Only until I overclock my max temp. would be around 90-92. And my laptop only have one fan blowing sharing with the cpu! I say you have a major complaint there my friend.

 

You can do as I did, and a few others, and purchase VGA memory heatsinks off newegg and stick em to the gpu heatsink. 2 sets should do ya fine, and leave a bit to cool the cpu too. Dropped my max temps almost 10C. I've got room for another pack too, perhaps I could drop another 5C on top of that. Putting OCZ freeze on instead of the landfill of Artic Silver 5 they put on also does wonders for dropping the temps down. I always overheat when I get the system back from them and they sucked at putting grease down.

Otherwise, if they don't accepts an RMA of the card, either make the modifications I mentioned or wait till the card fries and get a brand new one.

 

Free bump for your FS thread, emike09. Gotta love those mods.

 

Does the VGA memory heatsinks fit in the M860TU?

Sry for asking, but if you stick them on heatsink, doesn`t the heat stay in the laptop and doesn`t get transfered to the fan blowing the heat out?

A pic or link to a pic would be appreciated.

 

I have no idea for the M860TU. It might not work, since things are crammed in there so much tighter, but its worth the $10 to find out. With the M570TU, the CPU and GPU fans create natural airflow through the system, venting the added internal heat out. This method works extremely well with notebook coolers.

 

Lets say it fit, should I notice a difference in temps because of my Zalman cooler?

I`m guessing it is not easy to tell, but an educated guess do well. I will buy it anyway to test.

 

Well they replace the heatsink and the gpu, but they are telling me that during heavy 3D applications the gpu reach 99ºC and thats normal for them. i told them that thats not common from a clevo m570tu that has big heatsinks.

i send to them via xoticpc support the link of this thread, that way if they take a look they will realize that something is wrong because clevos m860tu (with a gtx 280m upgrade) owners get better temps with only one fan.

 

They do fit into the M86oTU, those VGA memory heatsinks are quite small http://tinyurl.com/npzvws

As to how effective they are, I don't know yet.

 

You're wasting your money if you buy aluminium heatsinks like the Zalman ones you linked to.

 

Which ones should be used? Copper material?

Do you have a link?

 

Anything that isn't aluminium. I don't know how much ceiling clearance the M860TU has, so you may need to find something that is 8mm or shorter.

http://www.ebay.com/

 

Thanks for the info, will look into it.

EDIT: I ordered some Copper ones from Ebay. Will be interesting to test out.

EDIT: I tested out the heatsinks and found absolutely no difference before and after. All temperatures including the CPU and GPU were exactly the same.

 

well thet told me that change the gpu and the heatsink. i´ll just see if that works when i get back my laptop.

Thank you very much all of you guys, you help me a lot.

 

jupapri, what thermal paste did you use to replace the stock paste?

I replaced some Artic Silver 5 with OCZ Freeze on the video card and it reduced my load temps 7-15 degrees depending on the application in use. Although I have a 9800 mGTX, I idle 37-38c (on a Zalman 2000 low fan setting).
21.5 ambient temp.

 

sethlan thank you for you info.

i use as5, here is very difficult to get another brand of thermal paste. of course i want some mx2 o diamond stuff but right now i have to deal with as5

 

jupapri. Even if you only use AS5, your GPU shouldn't be getting temperatures in that range.

 

sager replaced the gpu and the heatsink. they told me that everything is normal. ill just wait to get my laptop again and test it.