I've heard that this clevo has a bunch of heating issues, can anyone confirm if that's true? If it is, would it be enough to get it repasted with IC diamond or should this clevo be avoided entirely?
other than the heating does anyone have any experience or knowledge of this laptop? thinking hard about buying my first clevo and don't want to regret it it.
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I mean performancewise it's a good bang for the buck. GPU will likely be fine, CPU is steamy, software is trash, speakers is trash, keyboard is meh, panel is rather good.
I don't know how a repaste will decrease the temps, on stock I know that thing is REALLY hot tho. -
cheers, do you know of any other similar laptops with high refresh rate panels and a good enough GPU/CPU to actually utilize the monitor?
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
He says this about all non-MSI branded machines to be fair. He uses "likely" as he has not handled or tested it. -
What part of his statement is false ?
The cooling sucks
No info on keyboard
Speakers meh
Sager software isnt known to be that good
He's an MSI supporter that's for sure. But those are legit criticisms of the model -
I'm not really, I'm supporting quality notebooks. MSI simply happens to be the best overall notebook producer, even tho Asus and Acer seem to up their game, I'll have to do some research on their new models. There was an Asus that looked a lot like the GS65 for instance, which was more builky, if they played their cards right, that system might be cool like a cucumber and I would recommend it.
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Asus zephryus M ?
That thing cools like a pro
As for sager/MSI , I can get the p955er for 1600$ with 1 TB m2 SSD(without HDD) , while it would cost me 2200$ for 256GB GS65 .........
The sager has :
Similar/superior cooling
Same specs
Similar weight and thicknesses
Superior storage
600$ cheaper
Gigabyte aero 15x is simply superior to the GS65
The razer 2018 is also the best thin laptop with its vapour chamber cooling (the most expensive)aIex likes this. -
He just doesn't seem to take price under consideration.
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No, the new GL504, there is a thread in the Asus forum.
Also:
Clevo has inferior screen, keyboard, slightly worse cooling, inferior software, inferior GPU, speakers literally worse than 300USD notebooks (I'm not joking)
Hence 600USD cheaper. -
Its just as thick as the GE63 while being heavier.
At least it has a real GTX 1070 , not those 80W max q clown editions -
Meaker@Sager Company Representative
If your statements remained consistent with the evidence I might believe you.
As one example:
You have sung the praises of the GT75 and then been shown it runs extremely hot on the CPU, hotter than the desktop models you keep putting down while running lower frequencies.
You then go quiet and don't comment further until you get to another thread where you treat it as if it never happens. -
Inferior screen ? Why, because bezels?
Thr cooling is slightly better on the clevo
GPU both use the same 80w chip
The MSI GS65 speakers are bad
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I've only seen Phoenix GT 75 with an I9, which runs on load around 60-70c, far from hot.
@ ahmad hendeh:
Worse reactiontime, worse color coverage and some even reported some odd glitches.
Cooling is basicially the same performancewise, however far far louder on the clevo, hence worse on clevo.
The GS 65 speakers are indeed nothing special, still usuable, the clevo somehow managed to make it so much worse its not even funny.
The 80W Chip on the MSI seems to have a higher throttlelimit. The Clevo one seems to throttle faster, idk why.Last edited by a moderator: Jun 3, 2018 -
I9 at 60c~70c
Man that thing pushes 125~135w of heat when maxed, is MSI using LN to cool it ?
The msi runs it at a 90+ stock remember that guy who mocked you for MSI "being plug-in-play" with a screenshot of the I9.
As for the sager speakers being bad
The old gen sager p950HP6
The MSI GS65 -
No I don't remember that guy, possibly someone I've blocked, can you provide that screenshot?
Also here is the sager P957:
MSI:
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The screenshot i provided was the p950hp6.
The Eurocom Q5 has issues -
Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Here is a link to the post:
Intel Core i7-8750H/ i7-8850H/ i9-8950H Coffee Lake -
I'll just reiterate my original statement when dealing with Danishblunt and laptop speakers.:
THEY ALL BLOW GOATS. MSI, Apple, Asus, Acer, all of them. You're trying to compare various states of Grade D audio as to which is the best of Grade D.
The audio is there to be practical. A good example of good sound out of a small driver is the BEM Cube. It's a 2.5" driver, but the enclosure affords it both plenty of air to move and power. The lack of both is what is holding back laptop speakers.sutelibunn and aIex like this. -
Does anyone here actually have this computer that can give an actual review of it?
CLEVO N857EP6/SAGER NP7851 Heating
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