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    CLEVO P775DM3-G

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by ElessarTelcontar, Dec 15, 2016.

  1. ElessarTelcontar

    ElessarTelcontar Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello , i've been lurking in the forums for a while and now i decided to join in :D
    I'm looking forward to buy a CLEVO P775DM3-G , with 120hz QHD , i7 6700k , gtx 1070, 32 gb DDR4 3000 , 500 ssd or 250 ssd and 1tb sshd . So i would like to ask if there is something i should be aware of , any cons of this model , any alteration in my configuration someone would propose , or a totally other model for x reasons.
    Im quite sold on getting a clevo , 120hz QHD 17" , and desktop cpu though , and thats why i post this question on this section ( forgive me if i shouldnt). Keep in mind i will be buying this from Greece so i guess from an Eu reseller.
     
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    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    If you want to buy a Clevo, make sure you don't buy it without the Prema BIOS, read the first part of my review to understand why: EVOC P870DM3 Review by Phoenix

    I recommend you get it from HIDevolution for their awesome customer service and better configuration options like factory delidded CPUs and/or Silicon Lottery CPUs, faster RAM options, and the latest SSD options

    If you email [email protected] and give him your forums username, you can get a small discount

    Since you are an international customer like me, they have a global warranty option which covers shipping costs both ways should anything go wrong with your machine.

    See:
    HIDevolution - The Best Company I ever dealt with

    HIDevolution's Warranty!

    Otherwise, if you really want to buy it from an EU reseller, look at the Prema Partners site and choose one that is located in Europe
     
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  3. ElessarTelcontar

    ElessarTelcontar Notebook Enthusiast

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    i find that hidevolution offers some really nice things but the ammount of money i have to pay extra for importing duties etc due to the high base cost of the laptop itself are really steep and out of my total budget

    prema bios mod looks indeed mandatory but what is the reputation of the only prema partner in europe , dream machines from polland ? Could i purchase from another reseller maybe and then through prema site (through donation) ?
     
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    nope, it must be a machine from a Clevo reseller. Trust me, you'll regret it to have a machine with that crippled stock BIOS and crippled EC firmware that causes CPU Throttling when the GPU is involved as well. Email Dream Machines and see if they can give you a discount
     
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    I agree with Phoenix, I think you should really put getting one with the Prema BIOS at the top of your list.

    I'm not sure if you're at the top of your budget, or how much more the 1080 would cost but going with this high end of a unit I would go with the best GPU you could get. Even over more/faster memory or SSD's etc as those can be changed later cheaply.

    That said, I think the 1080 is only 20% or so faster than the 1070, so it may not be worthwhile to you. That machine should be a blast to have, if I didn't want SLI this time I would have gone with it.
     
  6. ElessarTelcontar

    ElessarTelcontar Notebook Enthusiast

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    thank you both for the recomendations .
    i forgot to ask about the new 7700k kaby lake processor, is it worth waiting for?
    from my searching i found not so much
     
  7. i_pk_pjers_i

    i_pk_pjers_i Even the ppl who never frown eventually break down

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    Actually, I'm pretty sure Prema would be okay with doing so for a private dontaion.

    No, the 7700k is not worth it - the performance increases seem very minimal.
     
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    Porter Notebook Virtuoso

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    I'm going to say NO only because I just ordered a 6700K machine lol. Seriously though, from what little I understand it may be pretty much a pre-overclocked 6700K from the factory. I would hope it may run a tiny bit cooler even at the same clocks, but it just did not feel worth waiting weeks, or months for. My luck I would have waited 4 weeks, gave up and ordered, then it would have come out the next day.

    Assuming that it is only 1-3% faster at the same clocks as a 6700K, I could always just overclock another 1-3% to get that same performance. I really don't push my hardware that close anyway (except during benchmarking) so I always have plenty of headroom for daily clocks.
     
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    nothing is guaranteed after he trusted one person before and that dude distributed his BIOS as if it was his own work. Only Prema can answer to this but nothing is certain though
     
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    My Silicon Lottery 6700K can destroy any Kaby Lake :D runs very cool @ 4.6 GHz on all cores 24/7
     
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  11. i_pk_pjers_i

    i_pk_pjers_i Even the ppl who never frown eventually break down

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    True, I imagine it would vary from person to person - he'd likely make an exception for me since he knows I am a trusted person. :vbthumbsup:
     
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    ElessarTelcontar Notebook Enthusiast

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    so i guess im stuck with dreammachines , at least i hope they prove trustworthy ...
    btw new prema bios is out yet or not?
     
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    not for the P870DM3 yet, we are still testing the one for the P870DM3

    But it will come soon so don't worry
     
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    I know a couple of us just said to get the Prema BIOS, and I still believe it should be a priority. However, if the choice came to no-Prema BIOS (due to lack of reseller or high import taxes) then I would still choose the system without Prema over a different model, but that is just me. Pretty much all other high performance laptops will also have throttling and/or power limit issues too. The difference is that the Clevo can be freed from these issues.
     
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    ElessarTelcontar Notebook Enthusiast

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    well the combination of 120 hz 17" screen and desktop cpu is my core demand , obviously ill go after a pascal gpu too, so all that doesnt really seem to leave me another choice than clevo or so is my knowledge
     
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    ElessarTelcontar Notebook Enthusiast

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    Question : does throttlestop can be set up to achieve similar results as of using prema mod. Is it limited compared to using direct bios prema mod ? Some examples would be great to understand what I wouldn't be able to do , or missing ...
     
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    ThrottleStop will help you overclock, undervolt, increase turbo power limits, but it won't fix the CPU throttling when the GPU is used at the same time. only the Prema EC firmware fixes that
     
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    No need to wait. If you get the Prema partner machine, you'll have all of the normal benefits of Prema firmware, plus the ability to switch between 6700K and 7700K is already working. @Prema has already posted an example of 7700K working in his P870DM3.

    I'd encourage you to think twice about going with the P7 series. The cooling system isn't great and I would say that is the Achilles' heel. If you only want one GPU, go with the P870DM2 instead. It's a better product in almost every way imaginable.

    Actually, EC v.04 or v.08g will take care of that problem on the P8 series. Everything after v.04 and before v.08g is cancerware, but I don't know if the P7 series can use one of those two good EC versions from the P8.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-overclockers-lounge.788975/page-769#post-10413575
     
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    I don't know if I'm wrong but I thought 120 Hz qhd screen was only available with p775 model , I wonder if the cooling compromise is justified by the perks of 120 qhd screen , especially since I plan to run it with a single GPU 1070 or 1080.thank you for the glimpse of hope for a somewhat OK ec , in case I can't get my hands on prema mod .
     
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    It's available in either the P870 or P775 based models.
     
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