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    CLEVO P870TM1

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by luisxd, Jan 12, 2020.

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    Order a fan and let us know how everything goes.
     
    tps3443, Jan 14, 2020
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    P870tm1 as a gift?

    Is there like an application online or something?

    I agree with the above diagnosis, these laptops will shut down without the fans present to prevent damage, maybe look in the forums marketplace for a part out for cheaper fan.
     
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    I was very surprised too when he gave it away, he just bought it for a gaming convention he was organizing in the city, smashed the screen at some point and threw it away in the garage.
     
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    Jesus. I wish I had the same luck as you. Buy the fan and let us know how it goes
     
    joluke, Jan 14, 2020
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    Is this compatible with the P870TM1?, it says P870DM.

    ebay link
     
    luisxd, Jan 14, 2020
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    Negative, you need the newer 12V fan.
     
    yrekabakery, Jan 14, 2020
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    Seems I found them, they don't have the same part number but look the same and have same voltage and current. Too bad they're from china, I hate waiting lol

    ebay link 1
    ebay link 2
     
    luisxd, Jan 15, 2020
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    You can get them way cheaper from AliExpress, and shipping time will be similar since they're all coming from China anyway.
     
    yrekabakery, Jan 15, 2020
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    Found this one, it has the same PN so it should work. Thanks man.

    alliexpress link
     
    luisxd, Jan 15, 2020
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    Sure, I gave away my dm3 chassis ;)
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jan 15, 2020
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    If u're going to replace TM'S cpu fan. I believe it is connected to cooling. So to replace it u need whole TM's CPU cooling with fan. Not only fan
     
    Rahego, Jan 15, 2020
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    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    You can disassemble it, it's held by a few screws and some tape. Easy enough to replace with a regular ADDA 12v, just need to tale off the metal shroud, since the TM1 cooler has a copper shroud built into the cooler.
     
    jc_denton, Jan 15, 2020
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    I wanst aware than. On pictures it looked as one piece of copper. That is why it suppose to be that good. Coz first of all it doesn't have gaps, so no air is wasted. Second of all, whole fan could work as heatsync also since it is same part.

    Anyway, good to know. I am slowly thinking about upgrade. Mby I will find just tm heatsync without fan.
     
    Rahego, Jan 15, 2020
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    Is there any guide I can use to properly disassembly this laptop?
     
    luisxd, Jan 17, 2020
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    I couldn't find how to remove the LCD panel although I found this LINK.
     
    luisxd, Jan 17, 2020
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    update us with photos on your progress. I am curious of before and after.
     
    tps3443, Jan 17, 2020
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Just remove the screws from the LID and pop it open.
     
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    Yeah I'll upload some photos later, I'm not changing the lcd (yet), first I want to figure out which screen I should get. I already found some at eBay but I want to be sure first.
     
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    Even thought that's purely aesthetics, I'm pretty sure any store that sells clevo can sell you the chassis and the back cover of the LCD. It's not difficult to disassemble the whole machine at all. It's time consuming mainly but for a machine that was given to you I'd keep it and try to get a clean chassis for it. Apart from that you are a lucky guy, that's all
     
    joluke, Jan 17, 2020
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    I've only found in eBay the chassis with the motherboard as a conversion kit from the P870DM, but not the chassis alone.
     
    luisxd, Jan 17, 2020
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    Talk to any store. Where are you from?
     
    joluke, Jan 18, 2020
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    Calexico, CA, I think the nearest store is HID Evolution.
     
    luisxd, Jan 18, 2020
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    Talk to them and see if they can get you a chassis only. Pretty sure they can :)

    @Donald@HIDevolution any tips here?
     
    joluke, Jan 18, 2020
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    I'd like to get a quote but I'm not sure if I'll even get it, I think it would be the last thing I fix/replace :p
     
    luisxd, Jan 18, 2020
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    Just get it working in the mean time yes
     
    joluke, Jan 18, 2020
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    Psh why work on the current project when you could be thinking about the next lol.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jan 18, 2020
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    Whats the run time on battery on this model?, I read somewhere it was aprox. 1 1/2 hour but that sounds like very little time.
     
    luisxd, Jan 18, 2020
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    With that cpu and gpu's you are lucky to have more than one hour. The machine doesn't have igpu so you'll get more battery sucking components. I'd bet in one hour maximum in normal use
     
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    I would guess that you might be able to get up to about 3 hours in energy saving mode and with undervolted CPU and GPU and brightness at mabye 40% tops.

    You might also try to make a special profile for the GPU with Nvidia inspector, that may also help. Still this is among the worst current laptops you can have when it comes to battery life as Clevo does not offer a manual GPU switch (imo this is a bad decision) or Optimus (probably a good decision as it affects performance). So the graphics card will kill that battery even if you manage to drastically reduce power consumption of the CPU and that runtime would only be for some office work/browsing/typing or watching a movie on the go.
     
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    2-3 hours if ensure the gpus are forced into low idle (nvidia inspector can do this) and keep the CPU dynamically clocking and voltage is dynamic too.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jan 20, 2020
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    Damn, if I keep it I guess it's gonna be sitting on my desk lol
     
    luisxd, Jan 20, 2020
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    That might work for me, 3 hours would be ideal, my current laptop (HP Zbook G2) gives me 4 hours which is perfect for my classes, although moving it with two chargers will be hard lol
     
    luisxd, Jan 20, 2020
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    It is only an estimate so better make your own tests before selling that Zbook.

    The way I see it the Zbook has three advantages:
    It runs longer
    It is lighter
    You can carry an add-on battery that will double its lifespan without much of an effort

    Of course it is also boring while the Clevo is cool :D

    With very light use I can get up to ca. 200 minutes on a comparable MSI Gt75 with a GTX1080 but when I say light I mean light so you can see that this is kind of an optimum scenario already :)

    As for power I am not familiar with the version with two power supplies but I am sure Meaker@Sager might be able to help in that regard as you may be fine with just one. FWIW I would think that for most use cases and with only one graphics card you should be able to use it with just one power supply especially with undervolted CPU and GPU but you'll have to measure power draw to verify that.
     
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    I don't think there ever was officially a one PSU version.
     
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    But wouldn't it be possible to connect just one of the two power bricks?
    From review pics that I have seen the connector should be the same?
     
    1610ftw, Jan 20, 2020
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    Double post, my bad.
     
    luisxd, Jan 20, 2020
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    I read somewhere it was possible but the CPU would reduce it's clock speed to match the available psu output. I've done this on my Dell Precision M6400, it comes with a 210w wall adaptaer but I can use it with a 90w adapter but the CPU runs at 1.5GHz.
     
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    Yes you can just connect one but you are going to get close to that 330w limit and any same manufacturer is going to leave some margin of safety.
     
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    So a bit of undervolting should help with the power draw - best to get a watt meter and test around with it for a bit.
     
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    I just found out that the laptop is from Xidax.
     
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    Yea Xidax no longer offers the P870. show did you find out it was a xidax?
     
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    It had a sticker of their logo on the lid but it was broken so I couldn't identify it until I saw their logo in a youtube video. Seems it's the model they use to advertise their laptops.

    https://www.xidax.com/laptops
     
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    Nothing wrong with Xidax just another one of the many resellers we have in the world of clevo laptops and others.

    P870 is end of life. Clevo has discontinued the model unfortunately. Some resellers just haven’t updated their marketing I suppose.
     
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    HID decided to support it still and worked something out to be able to keep selling it.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jan 21, 2020
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    Support what?
     
    luisxd, Jan 21, 2020
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    Support the P870 chassis. They sell the P870 in. TMR trim with the RTX series GPU’s with a modified vapor chamber.
     
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    The p870 as per the post before mine.
     
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