CPU Temps Problem Clevo P150EM/Sager NP9150

Hi,
This is my first thread on this forum so apologises if its in the wrong place. I recently bought a used clevo p150em laptop for a good price and in good condition too and this is my first gaming laptop as well

These are the specs:

Chassis & Display Vortex Series: 15.6" Matte 95% Gamut LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU) Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Mobile Processor i7-3820QM (2.70GHz) 8MB
Memory (RAM) 16GB SAMSUNG 1600MHz SODIMM DDR3 MEMORY (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card AMD® Radeon® HD 7970M - 2GB DDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 11
2nd Graphics Card NONE
Memory - Hard Disk 500GB Hard Disk WD Blue
2nd Hard Disk NONE
mSATA/M.2 SSD Drive NONE
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive SONY BC-5550H 4x BLURAY COMBO DRIVE
Memory Card Reader Internal 9 in 1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD: Mini, XC & HC/MS: Pro & Duo)
Thermal Paste ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card Intel 2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
Bluetooth & Wireless GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® ADVANCED-N 6235 (300Mbps) + BLUETOOTH
USB Options 3 x USB 3.0 PORTS + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT AS STANDARD
Firewire 1 X 1394a FIREWIRE PORT
Battery Vortex 15.6" Series 8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (5,200 mAh/76.96WH)
Power Lead & Adaptor 2 x UK Power Lead & 180W AC Adaptor
Keyboard Language INTEGRATED BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD WITH NUMBER PAD
Operating System

NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Windows 10

When booting up the laptop , within a couple minutes the fans started blaring off really loud , the fan on the ledt , I only was on the desktop BTW and then I checked the CPU and GPU temps and realised that the CPU was at 85-100 degrees in idle temps!!!! I don't know what to do now, I asked the seller and he told me maybe the thermal paste needs to be reapplied and refunded me a bit to cover the cost but I have no experience at all with it , I have never opened a laptop ever in my life to begin with

I need help, If I'm getting such temps while idle , imagine gaming which is the primary purpose

Thanks

 

BUMP

 

It may be as simple as blowing out the fans and heat sinks. Over time, they become backed up with dust and what not, and this prevents proper air circulation. Should the compound need reapplied too, and if you don't feel comfortable with doing that, perhaps a local computer technician can take care of reapplying it for you.

Does your reseller not offer a repaste, even if you pay for shipping and labor?

 

Hi, I did not buy from a reseller I got it from eBay and after contacting him he refunded me the cost to repair , about £50, is there any tutorials where you can do it yourself?. I looked at a couple threads about the cooling mods in the clevo p15xx models about the unnecessary temp gains but for someone like me who doesn't know much its very confusing.

 

Anyone?

 

Hi,

I had a machine with pretty much the same specs as your, I've recently upgraded. The best advice I can offer you is to get into the Owners Lounge under the P150EM. There is over 500 pages over the last 3 or 4 years but every conceivable thing you want to know about your machine will be there including tutorials on how to repaste the CPU and GPU. From the tutorials, I learned repasting and also replacing of parts. A lot of using the search function in that particular thread will tell you everything about that machine.

It was a great machine and I loved it. I just wanted to upgrade and I gave it to my sister who loves it.

Good luck,
Bobby

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/official-clevo-p150em-sager-np9150-owners-lounge.655837/

 

You just need to open the bottom cover and unscrew the CPU heatsink.

You could consider ordering an all copper version from a P170 series (the 17.3" version) which fits.

 

Hi thanks for the advice, I will definitely look into it, also could you please tell me what is "prema bios mod" I have no clue what it is and what are the advantages?

 

Is there an advantage to replacing the heatsink with the copper one?

 

Yes it will run slightly cooler.

 

Okay thanks I will consider it, I've seen you on some of the prema bios threads , so can I ask you what is prema bios mod and why do most people use it? Is it safe and what are the advantages?

 

In the P150EM along with the extra bios options that are in Prema's files for overclocking and the like you also get added support for the 970M and 980M GPUs.

 

Hi thanks for the info, I will look into it. I also want to repaste my CPU and GPU and I have never done it before, after looking at lots of threads people reccomend the IC diamond 7 or the GC gelid extreme, I really want to get low temps as possible

Thanks

 

Gelid GC Extreme is a bit easier to use... get that...

 

I already ordered the IC diamond 7.. Have I made a mistake?

 

No, you're fine. I did mine back in 2012 with IC Diamond and never had problems with temps. Tom is right but, if you already ordered the Diamond, you did not make a mistake.

 

Okay thanks, can you link me to a thread that shows how to apply the IC diamond 7, I see so many different ways and it's confusing , also when you are putting the screws back on to the fan, CPU and GPU heatsink do you tighten it really hard until you can't no more , also after you successfully repaste the CPU and GPU do I have to wait a couple hours to dry or can I use it straight away?

 

Triple3A, I'm going to defer to the gurus here with much more experience than me who will give you better advice and pictures. Me personally? I've always done the "pea" application, tightened the screws by feel over the years, and fired the machine up right away. It works for me but, as I said, wait for the gurus to reply.

You have a good machine, I'm sure others will get you up and running soon.

Bobby

 

Turns out out of the vast collection of screw drivers and tools in my father's toolbox none of them will allow me to open the screws at the back, can someone link me to cheap screw driver that I can buy on amazon, I'm in the UK btw

 

in the end ive found its a matter of style and taste, to be honest

personally, i make the paste application method dependent on the shape of the chip im pasting: with a square gpu, for example, the pea method is nice and will cover the whole chip sufficiently just by the heatsink pressure when reinstalling it. on a rectangular cpu die i prefer the line method though

make sure to completely remove the remnants of the old paste before application of the new one! for that im using isopropanol, makes everything shiny and smooth again

as for reinstalling the heatsink, the more pressure u can apply the better for lowering temps through better contact. just dont go all "hulk smash" and strip the heatsink screws ull get the hang of it quickly, no worries

as mentioned before, also make sure to clean out the fan casings, fan blades and heatsink fins of any dust accumulation. what i do is remove the fans from their casings (u can just pull them out basically, since theyre only held by magnets. just make sure to remove the fan casing screws first, of course ) and rinse them off in water to completely remove any dust on the blades. i do the same for the heatsink fins, whereas i just use a damp cloth for the fan casings. naturally, make 110% sure all components are DRY before u reinstall them again! (the use of a hair dryer can vastly hasten the desired result )

additionally:
- remove ac adapter and battery before opening up the machine
- ground urself before touching any internal components by touching a metal object first (such as a heater or a fridge) to get rid of any static electricity
- since this is your first repaste, take your time, dont stress out, make sure to have lots of space and good lighting
- check your first repaste by reinstalling the heatsinks and then taking them off again right away: u can then see for urself if ur application method was sufficient to completely cover the chips in question. afterwards ull have to remove that paste again for repasting, of course, but itll give u a feeling of how to properly do your paste jobs
- it also helps temps to prop up the back of your machine when gaming or during day to say operation. what i do is just put two plastic bottle caps under the hind feet of the laptop, helps improve air flow

keep us updated on yours progress and if u have any additional questions, shoot!

cheers

ps: while some older pastes have a curing time, thats not the case anymore with modern pastes such as ICD7. so u can basically just fire up the machine and game away

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Hi,

Thanks for all the tips, I will definitely try to do all this , although the fan and heatsink cleaning looks daunting (is there a step by step tut?) , but nevertheless I now have everything i need except for the damn screw driver, I tried a dozen of them that I found in my fathers toolbox but there all too big and such, is there a specific size i need and can i order one. Also I don't have any isopropanol. Is there an alternative? can i just use a wipe or something?.

Thanks

 

try and search on youtube for disassembly guides for the P150EM / Sager NP9150, also be on the lookout for the service manual (not user manual) of this machine, they will help you out with step by step instructions and pics / clips

u can also use damp wipes to get rid of the old paste, just be careful not to wet any components, water can be a ***** thats why isopropanol is nice, it evaporates quickly and is not electrically conductive!

as for screw drivers, basically any standard philips crosstip screwdriver with the right size will do u can get those in any tool shop or online store like amazon, ebay, probably even newegg

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If you use ICD 7, no worries... Just do the following..

Before you use the paste, just do the following.. Take a cup of warm/slightly hot water and soak the tube in it with the cap closed... This will slightly melt the paste and make it easier to apply...

 

A screw driver like this? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Shaft-Magne...812722&sr=8-7&keywords=cross+tip+screw+driver , just need to make sure its the right one

 

6 mm tip diameter might be a bit overkill.... try 3-4 mm

 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Plastic-Han...121&sr=8-9&keywords=3mm+cross+tip+screwdriver , how about this one, it says 3mm

 

that should work

 

Thanks for all the help, but I have got another inquiry (sorry), I also bought an ssd to replace my slow 500gb hard disk, but i want to keep the hard disk for storage and get rid of the optical drive. would this fit my laptop http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SATA-2nd-...471910?hash=item23466e09a6:g:OlEAAOSwv0tVLdi6

 

looking good there, it should fit. ud just have to swap out the face plate from the ODD, seeing as this adapter doesnt have one of its own

btw, great idea to switch to SSD, this thing will flyyyyyyyyyyyyy compared to your HDD

 

It kind of looks like the one we used for awhile. Hard to say for sure, but that appears to be compatible. Make sure your HDD is 9.5mm or smaller (it most likely is) and that caddy should treat you well!

 

I would put the HDD in the caddy, and the SSD in the 2.5 inch bay. Should definitely be a nice upgrade.

 

ah yes, listen to pat! with the other way around ud be wasting bandwidth on your hdd and potentially limiting your ssd to sata II speeds

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Yes 270MB/sec is fine for an optical drive, less so for an SSD.

 

Close, but this is a 9.5mm height caddy and the P150EM uses the 12.7mm type. Try this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal...976640?hash=item2ee8aa64c0:g:3vQAAOSwv0tVbBtU

The 9.5mm would fit, but it'd leave a gap. Could stuff that with cardboard, of course (in case you've already ordered the 9.5mm caddy).

 

hm, is the caddy for 9.5mm drives or is the caddy itself 9.5mm in height....? might be a difference there

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Myes, translation cn->en can be ... tricky. However, looking at the images doesn't leave any doubt:



The 'beef' surrounding both caddies' connectors are a good indicator; the 12.7mm has ample, the 9.5mm hardly any.

 

They're typically synonymous. The caddies intended for taller drives are also a bit taller to accommodate (thanks to t456 for providing images for comparison).

 

Thanks guys, how do I remove the fan so I clean it, it looks like some magnet I don't want to break it?

 

Hi thanks I ordered it, should take a while though since its coming from China , so I just need this by itself and I'm done?

 

Sorry, but that's not entirely accurate. It's merely that there's two possible sizes for odd drives; 9.5mm or 12.7mm. The caddy is either a proper match for the system or it's not, which is regardless of the hdd you're going to use. Of course, the 12.7mm system may accommodate a 2.5"/12.5mm drive as well, instead of being limited to 2.5"/9mm hdds only.

Yes. To the system it's just another SATA port and it'll detect a drive there, whether that's an odd or hdd.

You may want to swap their front bezels, though. The one on your odd neatly follows the receding angle of your laptop's base, whereas the caddy's bezel will have a generic form. This front bezel is held in place with two plastic clips, it shouldn't prove too difficult to remove them.

 

pretty straight forward actually: u open up the fan casing by removing the screws, then just pull out the fan itself, its just held by a magnet in the casing

 

Okay and to clean the fan do I remove the smaller screws on the casing and then wash it off?

 

So i applied the IC diamond 7 on both the GPU and CPU and clean out the dust(there was soo much) and my idle temps dropped from 75-80 degrees to now 45-50 degrees , which is good. However isn't that still a bit too high? , some people hear have reported like 35 degrees on idle and i can still hear the fans quite clearly even when i'm just on the desktop , also another question my 7970m shows 0 degrees when not in use, it works perfectly and when using msi afterburner in games i can see the temps , but as soon as i exit the game it drops to 0 straightaway. is that normal?

 

What are your power settings?

Also your GPU switches off when not in use.

 

High performance mode

 

That will raise your idle temps due to high performance mode forcing the clocks to max all the time for the CPU, try using balanced.

 

I see thanks , I tried balanced mode and it reduced to 35-38 degrees within seconds thanks

 

I bet the system is a bit quieter too

 

yes, but only wash off the fan itself,not the casing! the latter has the electronics inside, whereas the fan itself only has the magnet

and of course dont forget to dry it 110% before reinstalling it again...

your new idle temps sound waaay better now, what about gaming temps? sounds like we breathed new life into your machine was fun!

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Haven't played many games yet, but I played MW3 recently on max and max temp was 65