CPU temp while gaming

Hello,

I have been getting temps around 80-90 while playing GTA 5 I have a 4810mq is this considered high or is this temp ok? THanks

 

Depends a lot on your ambient temp. If you're in a 20C air-conditioned room then that's certainly toasty. If it's 40C heat-wave then I'm surprised it's not under thermal shutdown.

Either way, Haswell runs hot and if you haven't already, I suggest giving it a clean out and re-paste.

 

yah temps never use to be this high, they have ic diamond on them currently not sure what paste I should try this will be the first time I have ever taken apart this laptop for a repaste so I am worried about that too

 

You can fry an egg with that temp. you should worry and do a repaste if that doesn't work clearly its a hardware degradation.

 

There are lots of new types and brands of paste, what brand/type do you recommend that will last a long time so I don't have to repaste for a long time. Also what hardware would be degraded? the CPU itself or the heatsink? Thanks for your time.

 

I'm not familiar with new brands of paste but IC Diamond is good. It could be the CPU but do a re paste first before we jump into conclusion.

 

Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut (Liquid Metal) doesn't degrade like traditional paste (Even IC diamond 7, MX-4, Noctua NT-H1 do). I have been using it for years
20~30C lower temp on OCed i7 4700MQ @ 3.6GHz .
71C with Intel XTU Stress Test
84C full load (both CPU and GPU at 99%)
Please note that my CPU is overclocked . At stock speed , it will run much cooler
Liquid Metal is quite dangerous for newbie though , if you can bite the bullet then it's worth trying i think
How to apply it :
_Do not spill a single drop onto the mobo
_Apply it on both CPU and heatsink . Protect your CPU/GPU resistor with thin tape or sth (You won't need to do this if you're skilled enough )
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...t-vs-cool-laboratory-liquid-ultra-pro.791489/

 

While toasty, those temps aren't exactly dangerous. Though if you've never cleaned the laptop, that's where I'd start. A year or more of use accumulates a LOT of dust.

 

Yes, just take the fan off (it screws in separately from the heatsink itself) and use some compressed air to blow through the fins of the heatsink (out towards the back )

If temps drop then you are all good, if not then re-paste too.

 

how is Grizzly different than say IC Diamond? what makes it dangerous?...I keep my laptop clean blowing out any dust etc every month. If I remove the heatsink I will have to remove the thermal pads, is there a way to reuse them or do I have to buy more? Thanks everyone!

 

Below 90 C is okay (80s Celsius is fairly typical under max load). Over 90 C is no good.

I don't know how much a liquid metal compound will help over ICD; GTA V is a pretty stressful game. You might shave a few degrees off.

 

which liquid metal do you recommend? Is the liquid metal type pastes easy to apply? is it similar to applying IC Diamond?

 

Thermal Grizzly, if you're going to go with that type of compound. The liquid metal compounds involve a lot more risk and require a lot more care and attention when applying (they're electrically conductive). Generally, I find ICD or GC Extreme to work just fine unless you're really into OC'ing, then maybe the liquid metal pastes are worth the extra effort.

 

@Prostar Computer it seems there are a few different Thermal Grizzly models for sale "
Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut
Thermal Grizzly Aeronaut

Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut

 

Of course. Thermal Grizzly is the brand.
Conductonaut is the conductive/liquid metal compound of that brand. It provides the best thermal performance of the three (by far) but if it gets on any conductors it can cause shorts/serious damage to your components so you'll have to be extra careful with application and take precautions so nothing spills to sensitive areas.
Kryonaut isn't conductive so it isn't as "dangerous" to apply and performs very well (better than Gelid Extreme or even ICD from my experience, although it's in roughly the same ballpark).
Aeronaut performs worst of the three but has it's use in silicone-sensitive applications.

 

You better do some research before buying . I posted a link in my previous post and that should explain everything
IC diamond 7 is the same as any tradional paste . It won't last long and it's no match for liquid metal
In order to keep my laptop cool under load , I tried basically every single paste on this planet and honestly , none of them are able to satify me until I meet Liquid Metal ... Liquid Metal is real metal (gallium) , its thermal conductivity is way better than any traditional paste (let say : at least 10 times as much as IC diamond 7) . Like I said , 20~30C lower temp . In my Extreme Benchmark , I saw 84C on Conductonaut and 99C on IC7 . I doubt there is any game that could make my CPU run hotter than this . In fact , my CPU only stays at 55~60 when gaming (PC game)
Edit : You can reuse thermal pads on VRam (GPU) . VRam doesn't require a beefy thermal paste .

 

Try undervolting as well as repasting like others have mentioned as well as checking for dust bunnies inside.

 

Most people find a 1-2C drop in switching to a liquid metal before you get too excited I would use a regular paste unless you are having issues.

 

"Most people" ???
You maybe
I have used tons of regular crap (IC7 , MX-4 , NT H1 , Phanteks Nano Diamond....etc ) ,none of them can last forever and can be cool as ice like liquid metal . Here is proof :
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...t-vs-cool-laboratory-liquid-ultra-pro.791489/

Not enough ? How about check out the consumer reviews on amazon/newegg and see what they say about this ?
https://www.amazon.com/Coollaboratory-Thermal-Compound-Processor-Heatsink/dp/B0039RY3MM
https://www.amazon.com/Thermal-Grizzly-Conductonaut-Grease-Paste/dp/B01A9KIGSI
Liquid Metal must be applied on both CPU die and heatsink , spreading it around with an enclosed brush . The amount you'll use must not be too much , not too little and definitely more than the amount you apply regular paste (pea-sized amount or whatever)
If you don't apply it properly , you won't notice any improvement over regular paste , like how "that Linus guy" did and failed

I bet you don't want to switch , simply because your company still uses IC7 , am i right ?
If I spent a grand or two on a laptop , I wouldn't mind paying extra for thermal paste and yet most manufacturers still stick with crappy paste (I mean OEM paste which is even worse than IC7). They only care about money and don't give a sh#t about us . Reality is harsh ...

 

I've heard similar feedback about Liquid Ultra: A small margin of a temp difference for a lot more risk and time/care into application. I plan to test it soon to see how it compares to ICD and Gelid.

 

I have ordered some Conductonaut, I think I will tape the area off around the die so to be sure none of the TP touches the board.

 

Traditional Paste is just temporary solution . It does work but can you say the same thing 6 months later ?
People who own a desktop may not bother but laptop is hard to disassemble and I just hate to reapply thermal paste (also not free btw)
Oh wait , it does not even take 6 months to wear out . I say less than a week if you do heavy stuffs daily , like my sister did on her business notebook . She is an editor who encodes multiple videos for like 8 hours continuously and only Liquid Metal can withstand her abusement
Edit : Found this :
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/liquid-ultra-thermal-paste.223559/
Liquid Ultra (38.4w/mk) VS IC Diamond (4.5w/mk)
Result with Wprime95 : 60C vs 80C

Keep in mind that Conductonaut thermal conductivity is 73w/mk which is even better than Liquid Ultra . So people don't get good result with Liquid Metal are likely doing it wrong (Heat sink not properly seated, use too little thermal paste...etc )

 

Do you have to have new thermal pads to replace everytime you take the laptop apart to put new thermal paste on? or is there a way to use the current pads?

 

You can reuse your thermal pads as long as you don't break them . Do not use thermal pads on GPU and CPU , use thermal pads on VRAM only !


I don't use thermal pads . I use copper shim + thermal paste instead
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0713Q73SF/ref=psdc_2998409011_t1_B01E5PU7RQ?th=1
Thess things are more durable than thermal pad , thermal Conductivity = 401W/(m.K) !!! It's kinda overkill for Vram though
I applied regular thermal paste on both side of copper shim and stick it on VRAM

 

so apply regular old thermal paste to the copper shims and put those on top of the vram? My laptop is different I have 2 GPU's 1 CPU all in a small area...can you take pictures of how your laptop looks inside

 

can't take it apart now , I'm still using it but if you want some pics , here :

 

Putting in extra copper helps only if you are putting the machine on a stand and forcing air in/out.