Can I upgrade to ATI Radeon HD 4870 on a Clevo M860TU ???

I want to upgrade from the 9800 gts
at least is it possible?it seems to me the sizes are similar.
what do you think?

 

if clevo release bios that support this card but for now you cant

 

Are you saying its only a bios update we need? No need for any revisioned parts?

 

Heh, if history repeats itself, you'd probably need a whole new motherboard if Clevo decides to use new cards.

 

very very interested...@ichime wich are your past experiences??
However it seems that 4870s in Asus W90 are MXM 2.0 type IV (or III HE) so they could be electrically and phisically compatible...
The problem is...what kind of bios support is needed? Could anyone modify bios in order to add this support ?

 

clevo release new mobo for m570 for the new cpu i think not for the cards and if the cards are one model there are no need for new mobo just bios update

 

Seems that everybody's excited over ATI's 4*** series, here's wishing it's actually possible.

I don't know though, fitting it in should be ok if it's mxm 2.0 (instead of 3.0) since even a 9800m GTX could fit inside the chassis. However, the thermal dissipation might be a problem.

 

Yes you can!

Now go and try it and tell us your success story (so that we can try ourselves)

 

Has any1 actually tried out the new 4870 with the current bios in a M560TU + M570TU/ETU? (since every1 is writing that it 100% requires new bios)

 

It's not so much past experience, but more so of Clevo's history with revisions. For instance, on paper, a Sager NP9260 (Clevo D900c) should be upgradeable to the 8800M GTXs from the 7950 GTX; it has 2 MXM-IV sockets, SLi chipset, etc. However, it wasn't and Clevo had to issues a motherboard revision for the d90xC chassis to work with the cards. Other similar examples: NP5793 (M570RU) not working with the 9800M GT or GTX, NP5796 (M570TU) not working with quad core mobiles, leading to the introduction of the NP5797 (M570ETU), and now, possibly another motherboard revision on the NP8660 (M860TU) so that it can work with quad core mobiles.

But aside from this, doesn't mean that a 48xx card in any Clevo system is absolutely out of the question. Mark from KillerNotebooks apparently got a ATi 3870 pulled from an Arima W840Di to work in a Clevo M860TU, and now Alienware is offering the ATi 3870 cards in their M15x system, most likely pulled from their M17s (which is based on the Arima W840Di), probably in an effort to make room for the 48xx series cards coming in the future. It's just a matter of testing it. If someone can get a hold of an Asus W90vp and pull out one of the cards (preferably the Master card if it is a Master-Slave relationship) or even a card from an MSI GT725 and drop it one of these systems and post results, that would be great. And the fact that these ATi cards are cheap as well as the systems that they're in would make this venture a more attractive one.

I would buy an MSI GT725 and a Clevo M57x/M86x just to test this out, and sell them later, but I don't have the money now...lol (unless someone is willing to lend me their system for testing purposes, which I have done before with a member to see if an Alienware M9700 would work with ATi 3870 cards )

 

hehe you think that Clevo D901C have different mobo from Clevo D900C you are totaly wrong like anyother that think same
i have friend that have Clevo D900C blue with one 7950GTX and E6850
two days ago i sell them my old cards two 8800M GTX we buy also Q9550 for his laptop i change his card with my 8800M GTX before that update bios to 1.00.22 EC 1.00.13N THE CARD AND CPU WORKS VERY WELL - NO PROBLEM
In every hardware info program my mobo with his is the same no new mobo just different chasiss color and name because is released with newer cards and processors

 

So you are saying that you got the 8800M GTX and a Q9550 to work in the pre-geforce 8 series motherboard revision Clevo D901c? If so, that's awesome and I'm glad that I'm wrong on this issue. But I, as others who were also familiar with the situation were basing this incompatiblity from this thread:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=192191

Btw, I wasn't differentiating the D900c from the D901c. I just forgot to write /D901c in the first quoation.

 

ichime, if you can get a hold on some of these 4800 series cards, shoot me a PM. We'll work out some way to get my notebook and your cards in the same place for testing purposes.

For the good of the community, this must be tested.

 

Whell that would definitely help to make a few things clear Good luck with that!

btw, any1 tried out the ATi mobility Radeon 4850 from a MSI GT725 (correct me if the VGA in this is not MXM) yet in a m560 (and m570) TU? I think this vga is a bit easier to get atm and I assume if this works, than there is a big chance that 4870 works too (not 100% ofc)

 

Sounds good. Just a matter now of me being able to get them now that OCZ is not redistributing the W840 chassis anymore, thus they can't provide the cards to upgrade. Seems like Alienware might be first in that.

 

ichime that what Sager say that my D901C buyed with two 8800M GTX needs new mobo to use 9800M GTX they wanted to send laptop to install new mobo and new cards but i buy the cards any way and they work very good no new mobo every reseller will tell you that you need now mobo just to buy new laptop or more parts from them this is it there is no new mobo from first d900c with Go 7900 GTX and 7950GTX to this that is selled with 9800M cards that is just new bios version with new cpu and gpu support

 

It would be killer if the D901C can take 4870's. That would extend the life even further. Here's hoping.

 

if the cards are same type as ours we need only bios support for them because for this machine the voltage and cooling is not problem

 

Wow. fancy that. I'd still like to see someone else try this (if they have a Sager 9260 with the 7950 GTX), just to make sure. If an 8800M GTX does indeed work in a first generation D90xc with no issues, then Justin and Sager will have some 'splainin to do

 

Agreed. Not sure about crossfire though, unless the 4870 cards have a cable linking the two cards, like in the 3870s in the Arima W840Di. The Asus W90 doesn't have a cable bridging the two cards, so it might be integrated in the card's design, or not even there at all.

When I installed both 3870s in an Alienware M9750 (which uses an SLi chipset), the 3dmark06 score only increased by 1000 pts over a single GPU setup in the same system. I originally thought it was due to the weak CPU (T5500), but after hearing about this dual channel interconnect, I'm having second thoughts if it were the bandwidth from that cable resulting in that increase as Crossfire doesn't work in SLi motherboards on the desktop side of things.

 

its very simple D901C dont have mobo that says d901C but D900C why they will make it with old notebook name not with new one its simple because its the same model

 

the 0 or 1 in d90xc refers only to the colour (0=blue, 1=black), so that in itself means nothing. There is a motherboard revision number stuck on the mobo somewhere (on/near the ramslots?). That is what you need to be looking at.

 

Hey, ichime bought a Asus W90 ?!?!

 

No, but there are pictures of the insides of it, which shows no cables are seen connecting the two GPUs.

 

looks like there is a ribbon connector on the 2 MXM-III cards, and also on the MXM 3.0 card

 

This topic interests me. Any updates Ichime, Ken?

What sort of information is needed in the bios? Voltage I suppose? I almost wonder if someone could modify the current bios for support (for the 4870).

 

Can you even acquire a 4870? I'll buy one to test it out myself as soon as it's possible.

 

Good luck getting drivers as the ASUS W90vp is having issues.