Can any tell me the ms response time of clevo..

I was wondering if anyone new the ms response time for the clevo M570U 17"WXUGA LCD screens. Anyone?

How do games look while running on this LCD? nice?

I just joined the clevo family by ordering the M570U today!

-gp

 

From Powernotebooks (paladin44):

CLEVO 17" WUXGA LCD panels for D900, M570 models

LG.Philips

Model - LP171WU1
ㆍFeatures

17.1" TFT LCD Panel for Notebook PC

Model Name LP171WU1

Active Area [mm] - 367.2 x 229.5
Outline Dimension [mm] - 382.2 x 244.5
Thickness [mm] - 6.2
Resolution - 1,920 x 1,200
Aspect Ratio - 16:10
Pixel Pitch [mm] - 0.191(133)
Number of Colors - 262,144(6 bit)
Luminance [cd/㎡] - 190(typ. 5p)
Weight [g] - 720
Contrast Ratio - 500:1
Interface - 2ch LVDS
Viewing Angle [˚,U/D/L/R] - 120/140
Response Time [ms] - 25
_______________________________

Rise times and fall times are important in gaming laptops. (from PCtorque)

Very simply, the rise and fall time of a LCD measures how fast the cells in a LCD screen can respond. This is measured in ms, or milliseconds. A fast moving image, like those you would see in a computer game, requires that the cells in the LCD change color very quickly in order to render the moving image on the screen accurately. If the rise and fall times are not fast enough, the image that is produced will have a 'ghost' trail behind it as the cells attempt to keep up with the changing image. LCDs with a slow rise and fall time would not be a good choice when building the best gaming laptop. Ghosting can be very frustrating when gaming. The best gaming laptop LCD screens out there today have a 25 ms or less rise and fall time. Non-gaming laptop LCDs typically have a 40 ms or less response time. Be careful - some screen specs will only list the rise time, and this can be misleading. Make sure the specification listed is the total rise time and fall time or you may end up with a less than optimal screen in your gaming laptop.
_______________________________
I have a Clevo with WUXGA, I game on it all the time, I dont feel that the response time matters too much in a Clevo gaming notebook, especially if its 25 ms and lower. I have seen notebook LCDs with 40ms response, those were noticeable with the gay ghosting effect from the cursor movements and from screen transitions.

I love my Clevo.

-Gophn

 

Thanks. that clears that up.
So you dont think i'll have any ghosting with my clevo? Hope not.
How will the 7950gtx handle a nice external display?

I am very excited. Is the build quality solid? I was told after I made my purchase that the clevos are basical crap and although its a good bang for the buck, that doesnt mean it wont fall apart on me in a year. It was kind of dis-heartening to read this 20 minutes after I purchased the clevo.

Is the contrast ratio of 500:1 okay?

Is there any light leakage in the clevo M570U's LCD?

thanks,
-gp

 

Take a look at my review of the Clevo M570U:
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3260&review=WidowPC
It is, without a doubt in my mind, the best 17" gaming notebook on the market.

 

Thats good to hear. I have just been told that clevo like dell is junk and that clevo actually makes dell's notebooks. Either way, I sure hope I didn't just drop all that money on a piece of junk that is going to fall apart on me.

Please, reassure me I just made the right choice.

thanks,
-gp

 

Clevo has never, and probably will never make Dell notebooks. They only make these high-end notebooks for boutique brands.

Dell notebooks comes from Quanta and Compal usually.

Who ever told you that is not a reliable source, and needs to seriously learn more about notebooks, because that info is the pretty well-known.

 

Haha don't worry. Impossible Clevo is making Dell notebooks. You probably heard Clevo is junk just because in fact these are "whitebox" laptops. They sell the casing, mobo, screen and you (or the rebrander) add the CPU, memory, drives etc...

I owned a compaq presatio notebook 4 years ago and I can tell you the compaq was sh*t compared to the 5760. same thing goes with Dell; I only heard horror stories about their notebooks. For Dell to sell as low they are the only ones who make their notebooks.

If you're cautious just take a good warranty plan (after all it's a portable and it's more prone to failures and accidents).

I also can testify you won't make a mistake choosing a clevo model. The screen is simply georgous and the build quality is excellent. The only thing you'll notice, compared to Dell, HPs is that the Clevos are less gadgety - less light everywhere, less shortcut buttons, etc... Though the front LED panel on the 5760 is clearly a head turner and is undoubtely something cool AND useful.

 

It was an asus dealer here on the forums, but I want to withold his name because I do not want to start any arguments, flame wars, or heated debates.

If the clevo M570U is a solid well built system that will last, I'll take your word for it. After recieving that PM about how clevo sucks, I got realy bummed and began to consider canceling my order and getting the G1 or w3j.

I still want an asus, and will probably get one eventually weather or not I keep the clevo.

I just want to be happy with a problem free notebook, and I hope the clevo will fit the bill.

 

When a dealer tells you that something they don't sell is junk...well, there went that dealer's credibility...especially when they PM you with it instead of saying it in the open where others can comment.

 

well put Donald.

 

yeah...its starting to bother me because i feel like he is playing on my desire and attraction for the asus brand notebooks. the last letter started to sound pretty condescending to me.....to me it sounded in the last part of the last letter like he was basically saying, "you are going to have to use your piece of junk for 8-10 hours a day for the next 3-4 years....hope you enjoy it.
-Have a good one."

this is even after i told him more than once that i plan on getting an asus weather or not i keep the clevo.

i don't care anymore. I will reveal who the reseller is and post our email exchanges between each other only if it is okay with the moderators or the forum ettiquete.

any objections?

The thing is...after all his talk, im still considering going with asus and canceling my clevo order. I think im just freaking out because 2800 bucks ain't no small change. It doesnt make it any easier to know that asus has top of the line build and construction quality.

 

the screen on the clevo is a standard laptop screen it would look a great deal like the screens you see in best buy.

Its the same screen used on the e1705 .

Although its resolution is higher I think you can compare it to the toshiba p105 to get a good picture of it.

there are only 2 wuxga screens, the other one is the samsung one which is brighter but has more complaints about leakage.

I think the clevo is a nice one but you have to make sure you value that gpu.

I like the metal and the features.

 

I wish I could help you decide, glasspusher, but I only recently purchased a Clevo and I'm still waiting for it to be delivered. Although, I was in a similar situation to you and I was considering an Asus Laptop as well. Eventually though, the helpful people on this forum helped me to realize that the Clevo would be the best choice for me.

And after reading over countless reviews and user comments, I'm quite confident that I will be VERY pleased with my laptop once it arrives. I don't think I've actually heard a bad thing about Clevo laptops yet, and I've certainly looked. Plus, they've got some great features that many of the Asus models don't.

(Note) - I will post what I think of the build quality once my Clevo laptop arrives though. I plan on doing a full review for Notebook Review, pictures included. Perhaps that will be of some help.

 

You wont be sorry, thats for sure.

Great to hear, we would love to see more reviews for this awesome notebook. It would help others that are deciding what you were before purchasing.

 

I actually originally emailed xoticpc asking about the G1 and the M570U because they sell both clevo and asus. Justin of xoticpc promptly returned my email with answers to a lot of questions.

He actually recomended the clevo m570U for my needs and for my workload instead of the asus'. He said that what he would get if he were me.

*EDIT* If I decide to sell the clevo(most likely NOT) and buy an asus instead, then Justin@XoticPC is defintely a top pick for my purchasing decision. IF I keep the clevo, and find some burried treasure, then I will probably buy an asus anyways....and if i do I am going to strongly consider XoticPC.*EDIT*

The reason I went with flawless computers is because their price really cant be beat. They have practically perfect reseller and better buerau ratings, and best of all I can use my friend to service the notebook and he can bill flawless for the work instead of having to send it back and forth between myself and flawless incase anything need to be repaired.

The guy who claims clevo is dung said that is a scam, and that if my friend who owns a computer company breaks something while repairing the system that the warranty will not cover the damage he caused. I dont know.

This other reseller sounds like a real greefer to me.

He is telling me that clevos are garbage, thinks the graphics cards in the G1, w3j, w2p, a8j would be fine for my 3ds max and animation needs. he also made a car analogy basically making it sound like clevo is like an ol' honda civic and asus is like Lexus or Mercedes. Thats just pushing the design and build I suppose. But I dont know if clevo is like the honda civic of the notebook world.

Oh well.

I still like and would like to own an asus, but I also want to like and own the clevo. lol

 

Pics and a review would be great! I'll try and do the same when I get mine but I might be too busy gaming! lol

your words are definitely re-assuring. we should start a clevo army.

 

You know dont bother repeating what the dealer said. Its easy to figure out who.

It doesnt really matter. I appreciate all the information I get from dealers, but do not be naive, their purpose is to make sales. They make their living by selling notebooks to people...

So take any information they can give you on models and appreciate it, but filter out the sales information.

An asus dealer might really think clevos are junk, its not dishonest that might really be his opinion. Its not going to matter to the forum regulars

 

yeah. I totally agree. Im not going to mention who it is.

It was just really dis-heartening to hear from somebody who sells laptops that clevo is junk. especially after i had just previously respected his opinion based on the information he gave me on design programs and the asus notebooks.

I understand that he might just be trying to make a living by promoting his products, and at the same time I believe that he truly believes what he says....I gues thats why it's so disheartening.

I just think he would want my business for when I ever do decide to go asus. By trashing the other product that I just happened to buy from another seller and by sparking a reaction of; ''shoot!, I just waisted 2800 bucks on a piece of junk?????WTF!?!?'', I dont think he was thinking of me as a customer anymore. More like he thought I was an a$$.

All right. I want to forget about it now...I have more important things to do like wait in excitment for my new M570U!!!

***Moderators can close this thread if they want. Personally I dont think it needs to go any further.***

Thanks,
-gp

 

Closed by request.