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    Can you upgrade the Sager NP9130?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Caliburn00, Apr 20, 2013.

  1. Caliburn00

    Caliburn00 Notebook Guru

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    i've been thinking of buying it, however i'm going to be have engineering as my major in college next year so i'm not too sure about buying it since i heard engineering programs don't work too well with the Nvidia 6xx series(it has the GTX 670X). So i'm wondering if its possible to change the cpu to a AMD Radeon 7970m or any other AMD GPU's.
    Sager NP9130 - Custom Sager Laptop | XOTIC PC - (Clevo P151EM1)
     
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    Yes, you can upgrade the GPUs to any MXM-compatible card.
     
  3. Caliburn00

    Caliburn00 Notebook Guru

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    Oh alright thanks, that's the only thing that's been holding me back from buying it. Anyone know any guide that shows you how to change it? XD Never changed laptop GPU's before.
     
  4. michael69

    michael69 Notebook Enthusiast

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    the 9130 only allows you to use the 75Watt MXM 3.0 cards because it only has the 120 Watt AC power adaptor , the 9150 has the larger 180 Watt power suply and allows you to use the MXM 3.0B video cards that are 100 Watts (580,680,6990m,7970m
    you want the 9150, not the 9130 from Sager
    if you must have the 7970m from ATI, I think the MYTHLOGIC Pollux 1612 is the same model as the Sager 9150 and they ofter the 7970m as an option
    Sager,Clevo,Eurocom are all Clevo laptops . I think Mythlogic is also a Clevo, just ask them
    also , I would consider a 17" laptop for engineering , ask someone who is in engineering classes, go to the school , look at the desks you will sit at , many of my friends are engineers
    I have a Sager for 2 years now ,it works flawless
     
  5. Support.3@XOTIC PC

    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    The NP9130 Officially does not support any GPU's higher then 75w TDPas michael69 mentioned. I have read posts previously that people have gotten them to work however the components on the motherboard are not designed for the higher power draw and doing so may cause your motherboard to fail. Its not recommended to do so.
     
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    Also, I've heard mixed news on software compatibility with the 6xx cards; some say they work fine, but it seems the software developers tend to recommend the Quadro cards for certain applications. I would peruse through reviews and perhaps even contact the developer(s) of the software you'll be using to gain further insight before you invest in the laptop. :)
     
  7. Ingvarr

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    I doubt it, unless NP9130 has different mainboard from generic P151EM barebone.
    Some resellers, like mySN for example, sell P151EM with 680M/7970M configuration options since they were introduced (with 180W power supply of course). Its unlikely they would do this if it would be as dangerous as you claim.
     
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    That is the official statement by Sager. They do use different mainboards. A quick way to verify this the the NP9130 does not have support for a backlit keyboard while the NP9150 does. Other places that sell Clevo based system are welcome to offer what ever they'd like to.
     
  9. Ingvarr

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    And Sager is free to claim whatever they like to. Like many other resellers, most likely they just don't want to bother supporting extra configurations (specifically for customers like me who want 680M but don't want backlit keyboard).
    I don't dispute the fact that mainboard (and the whole chassis) is different between P150EM/P151EM. I disagree that P151EM is "not designed for more than 75W GPU".
    No need to scare prospective upgraders. For example, mySN sells P151EM with 680M for very long time now, I bet they would stop it by now it it would've caused any problems (especially since they have to cater for mandatory European 2 year warranty)
     
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    There is no intention to scare upgraders, its a warning if anything. You can damage your motherboard while putting in components the motherboard is not designed for. While mysn does offer that i dont know any other Sager or Clevo reseller that does.
     
  11. Ingvarr

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    Most likely because "any other reseller" did not occur to actually confirm with Clevo the actual power limits for the motherboard components in question.
    Instead of, you know, just relying on the good old mantra - "if its not in the original checklist, its not an option, case closed, no need to waste time".
    We had quite a bunch of people doing the same on this forum (put 100W GPU, upgrade PSU to 180W), and nobody ever had trouble. Add to them the amount of same mySN configs sold during past year, and I think you pretty much can see that its safe. Though of course you have to be careful that your reseller don't get fussy about it and voids your warranty ;)
     
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    You can check Clevo site directly to see what they officially support CLEVO - Products
     
  13. Ingvarr

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    True, but this is not indication of limits of the motherboard.
    This is simply the result of marketing decision to aim for midrange sector for this barebone, and therefore ship it with 120W PSU (For Clevo PSU being a part of "kit" that resellers get in a box with the chassis).
    Also, there is certain amount of cheekiness here, because Clevo'd prefer for P151 not to compete with P150.
     
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    Ok, then its Sager statement made a year ago, and against it the hard reality with not a single complaint about fried motherboard (at least on P151EM, not HM) and bigshot resellers like mySN offering it as official config. So sorry, I don't believe Sager in this respect. As I said, I think that these claims were made just to back up their desire not to support extra configurations at this time, and to push people into buying "higher-end" model instead of upgrading.
     
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    in the end, its up to the user to decide what kinda config to go for :) the statement provided by sager is basically just a headsup that operating a P151 laptop with a 100W gpu is just not covered by official specifications as tested and intended by clevo/sager. but its not a "legal ban" on anyone still wanting to go for such a config.

    no reason to bust xotic's balls on this one :D

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  17. Ingvarr

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    Well, mySN is present on this forum, so we can ask them if they are being going cowboy during past year and selling laptops which violate these "official Clevo specs".

    I bet if even such "spec" exists, is more like arbitrary restriction (marketing reasons/untested/not officially supported/due to PSU, etc) and not due to actual motherboard components not being up to job.

    Either that or Clevo actually relaxed restrictions since this year-old post.