Can't Decide on a Notebook and I'm thinking I won't

Can someone help me... i cant decide between a M980NU and a D900F so I have a plan where i dont have to...
Ok i was thinking well a dtr is going to be pretty heavy so ill try and keep it around 12 pounds...
I was thinking that if I make a desktop and put it in a case that resembles a laptop it might work... I was thinking of making the case myself... And no i dont expect it to be small lol... probably like 3" thick with 17" screen at 1920x1200...
Here's specs I was looking at:
EVGA X58 Motherboard
Core i7 920
2x 1TB 3" 7200RPM HD's
GTX 295
BlueRay Burner
6GB DDR3 1333 RAM
Wireless N...
If im gonna add a battery it will probably lift the machine off the ground... How do i make/buy a case to fit all this in... Also for cooling thinking about liquid... I'm a noob when it comes to desktops so dont laugh at my idea lol... its a crazy one but it could work...

 

Sorry to burst your bubble, bifnewman. It is best to save yourself the disappointment and stick to either of the Clevo's you're planning to invest in.

 

M980NU all the way...

 

are you sure i cant do it?

 

I'm having a hard time imagining this. You want to make a horizontal desktop with a notebook style display attached to it and keep the case size within the footprint of the 17 inch display?

 

well, how big would it have to be... i might as well throw out liquid cooling lol... requires a freaking radiator

 

o yea i still want a recommendation on a case... and im changing the gtx 295 to gtx 285 if its possible to make this... $200 cheaper... EDIT: I just saw how GTX 295 has 2 gpu's and is much more powerful than gtx 285 so i might just keep the gtx 295 in my configuration

 

I hate to break it to you, but the short answer is no, kid. Save your money. You do not yet possess the engineering prowess to design this dream machine you plan to build; you even admit this in your opening post. It will be impossible to fit all of the high performance components into that thin of a chassis, let alone have the system operating stably without overheating. You have yet to even mention a power supply, fans, heatsinks, cables, a monitor, truck batteries, etc.

 

I havent completely finished my setup yet... i will update maybe like an hour or so with everything

 

as for keyboard i might just implement a G15 keyboard with all the G-keys and screen and all that stuff but i would probably need a different keyboard but i could keep g-keys and screen and everything else. that would be awesome..

 

what kind of power supply will power the following:
Asus P6T6 Revolution Intel X58 ATX Motherboard $241.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131358R
Intel Core i7 920 $279.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115202
EVGA GTX 295 1792MB GDDR3 $589.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130473
G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 SDRAM $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231225
2X Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB 3.5" HD $179.99 ($89.99 each)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148433
LG Black 6X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 6X BD-ROM 4MB Cache SATA Internal $179.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136137

Crazy huh... probably gonna be a 19" or 20" sigh...

 

This isn't going to be as "portable" as you think. Maybe you should just go with the d900f and then get that Vidock thing that's coming out so you can upgrade your gpu later. The i7 should be able to handle games very well for the next few years.

 

maybe but if i could get this it would be a lot cheaper and better... if i can squeeze this into a 18.4" to 20" case then i could take it with me... i dont even think i should try to put a battery in their though...

 

just doing research for psu and stuff... looking at a 1000w psu. looks great maybe a bit thick... may just get it to hold the laptop up and stick through the bottom... also i was looking these $5 multicolor led case fans so i could put multiple ones on the bottom like 2 for cpu, 2 or 3 for graphics, and maybe another for hard drives. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811998108

 

Well for starters, it won't be that much cheaper, maybe $500, since the 9280's base is around $2000, but it'll have many pluses over what you're trying to frankenstein up.
The 9280 will have a good cooling system, clevo's big systems are known for that. It will be more portable, and it will have a battery life, even if it is a small one. I also think the 295x plus the huge power supply that'll be needed will melt the small case you're planning to put it in.

edit: Not to mention that thing's gonna be UGLY.

 

you never know what it will look like especially because no one has given me recommendations on a case... I was thinking that the psu could just stick out the bottom and hold up the notebook allowing better airflow and allowing the notebook to be less thick... Also for cooling I will have like a 1000w psu with a 140mm fan and 5 or 6 more 80mm case fans so would that make the computer stay cool. for battery, would it even be possible to hook a battery to this thing? Even if it is only 20 mins lol.

 

You'd have to wire the battery into the powersource some how, and in order to power 1000w's it'd have to be a huge battery, even for a couple minutes. The biggest notebooks run on what, 95W? so 11x the power consumption of a 9262, which only lasts an hour as it is.

 

damn well battery is a no go...

 

The whole project is a no go. Just pick one of the new Clevo models or build a desktop.

 

i'm not sure what you're expecting. there is absolutely no way you're going to be able to build this yourself. everyone else seems like they are being nice in saying. you don't stand a chance. you realize these companies spend so much money on RnD and thats why these machines cost so much. the components themselves aren't what make laptops cost a lot. it's the time and money they spend designing them. good luck though, post a pick so i can laugh at how hot and ugly yours is.

 

Save yourself hours and days of frustration of trying to fit everything in a laptop case.
Just get a laptop that is factory built and requires NO assembly.
Trust me getting all those parts to fit and actually work will be extremely daunting.
You will be cursing yourself if you went out and bought all these parts and have them not work right.

 

Well you need a 750W power supply for that, but forget about it..
That wouldn't fit in any kind of case small enough to be considered even close to a laptop. Having a GTX 295 that is huge and extremely hot, next to an i7 that is also very hot would just melt the crap out of anything so small. The desktop motherboard would have the card vertically, so the laptop would be like 5-6 inches thick? I mean having all these components plus liquid cooling would just be a desktop case sideways with a monitor attached on it lol. You can check out the smallest desktop cases, but it'll be too big to carry around. And forget about a battery, you would need a 10 kg one that would be as big as your case, and give you 37 mins of battery life.

I think it would be possible to have a 3'' thick 20'' screen laptop with an i7, integrated graphics, 2 hdds.. but then again it would take a year to build the case and even more years to get to a point where it is possible to run it safely on the hardware.

But hey we all get crazy ideas now and then

 

M8 i think it is possible infact i have thought about it as well desktop components in a laptop chassis,you may have to fabricate a chassis.Ignore the unbelievers,i unfortuatly cant give any technical know how,as i have very little sorry.How ever if u do decide to go ahead with your project i will like to brain storm with you as i have a few ideas myself good luck.Oh yeah they made a xbox 360 watercooled laptop so...........
pm me

 

The XBOX 360 and the laptop/desktop the OP wants to build are completely different. Also the XBOX laptop was made by the technological Renaissance man Benjamin Heckendorn. The OP is a self declared beginner who's half my age and has never even touched a single piece of silicon in his life.

The sheer size, power, and cooling requirements alone are enough to make Clevo's best engineers laugh. Because of components such as the cooling radiator and the mounted 24 inch monitor on the case, the system itself will weigh over 20kg, ultimately declassifying itself as a laptop.

Now I'm going to ask you, bifnewman, the question I should have asked you in my first post in this thread. Why?

 

Listen to the people. The TDP of the components you are wanting to use, especially the graphics card, are going to give serious problems mounted in a small case. I would advise against putting those components in a micro desktop case let alone something resembling a laptop. As mentioned your desktop motherboard is going to be large, the card mount perpendicular, rather than parallel to the board, and surely the fact you are considering 5-6 80mm fans tells you it's not going to be small if you want adequate cooling.

Either build a desktop or buy one of the laptops mentioned.

 

i didnt mean to set anyone off its just that this will surely be much more powerful than any gaming notebook for at least a year... So there is no way to put the video card parallel to motherboard?

@rarden30mm
Thanks for your support. pm with any ideas you have.

 

http://www.orbitmicro.com/global/pe-flex16-p-759.html
Will this allow me to lay the graphics card flat?
Please note that I havent bought any parts yet...

 

M980NU
But I repeat myself

 

Yes, but you would either need ot lay it over the cpu (thus melting EVERYTHING) or over the other slots (thus losing any other expansion cards eg: wireless).

Also the cpu cooler for an i7 will be huge, so the case will still need to be 6in thick.

 

nice find for the pci extender,that gpu placement was an issue for me,in reguards to the cpu cooler well you could always use the d900f cooling solution,just itergrate it into our/your design,the psu could be external like a generic laptop.Thus keeping a lower profile.....Come on guys we are brain storming here try be constructive,imagine creating a hybrid laptop desktop that smashes the likes of alienware and sager out the water in pure gaming horse power......Yes its a huge task but impossible no

 

im willing to try it when i get enough money because if it doesnt work the worst that could happen is that i buy a desktop case to put it in..

 

does the asus p6t6 motherboard come with an integrated graphics card on the board? then i could use hybrid so when i got on battery life i can set it to switch to integrated and downclock cpu... it could get better battery life than the 9280...

 

what desktop card uses the least power that i can use with x58 and hybrid sli?

 

Why don't you just buy a portable computer then? Like this. You just need to find a X58 with ATX board. Or this but I think this one the cases are not standard, so you can only use motherboard that they provided. However, these lunchbox type computers aren't cheap. That's the downside of it.

 

Guys don't discourage him, just encourage him to make a video and picture document :laugh:

 

I was thinking of pulling out the PSU from the notebook... I just need to understand how it would all work out... I was thinking of getting a 9400gt and undervolting and underclocking it and cpu to get some battery life and the have the GTX 295 in hybrid sli so when i plug it in i can have the 295 and core i7 overclocked...

 

@f4ding: thx for those links... it gives me ideas but i still want to make it myself... cheaper that way. the design gives me ideas but everything in it sucks.. is there any small computer cases? may be i could just buy one that resembles 17.1" widescreen if there is one and put a widescreen moniter and flip down keyboard on it... can you remove everything including the motherboard from the d900f chassis? that could give something to work from... ill go to rjtech about it.

 

If you really want to build a laptop just buy an Asus C90.

 

a C90 comes with notebook parts... the whole point of this is to make a laptop with desktop parts (i7 920, GTX 295, 3.5" HD's)

 

A slightly different approach:

Why not buy a standard desktop case (even a smaller one would suffice, strip the PSU so that you can mount things wherever you want, and then mount a monitor on the side of the case. It would give you an all in one desktop using full sized parts, and keep it about as small as possible.

The issue you are going to run into is ventilation. The heat signature of a 920 + dual video card + PSU + hard drivesis more than you are guessing.

If you look at the new i7 notebooks- you will notice that they lack SLI. they lack SLI because of the heat signature. Also - latops normally keep the PSU outside of the chassis - again for heat and size reasons. Essentially - you could build this idea you have, then buy a PSU and make the cords long / mod them so that you can have 1 plug back into the "laptop", but you will be screwing yourself on the power rails.

Look - I won't tell you it is impossible, but I will tell you that what you are thinking about doing will not come out like you expect it. there is a reason no laptop in the world works with 100% desktop products; heat and size come into play.

Save yourself the time and effort and build a desktop (as small as you can - you could even build the case if it excites you) and roll with that. You will be much happier in the long run.

 

Some guy on here built an octicore laptop. Could I see a picture of his chassis?

 

Could i do hybrid sli with this:
AGP Video Card for Battery Life
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125249
EVGA GTX 295 for Gaming
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130473

 

same here i am amused with you just saying imma put a desktop 295 into a laptop hahaah screw you clevo....


won't happen ....but if your name was K-tron i would believe you ....

just build a wooden box.... so when it dies you can just bury it

 

K-tron is making his out of a solid block of aluminum which he is getting custom done. ..... and is going to cost liek 1/4 of a brand new M98NU

your not going to do this.... how old are you ? and ......i give up almost

 

You will not find a motherboard that takes agp and pci-e, or at least not an lga1366 one.

 

@theriko: yep i knew that was gonna happen. the 6200 probably doesnt even support hybrid sli anyway
@MR.Moo: Come on guys, keep the comments constructive please... Who is gonna build it for him? Sounds pretty cool. K-tron is the guy that is building an octicore laptop right? sounds like awesome server...

 

There's a difference between contructive and impossible. You're only 12 years old with barely any modding experience. K-Tron has been building and modding machines since I was still wearing diapers. Unless you get someone highly skilled experienced to help you, I can guarantee that you are going to be stuck at square one for a very, very long time.

 

There is a reason the comments are not constructive. It is a waste of your time to believe that you can do this. You can build a solid machine (here is my latest -- http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1424485) with a little planning - but don't expect it to be as portable as you think.

I thought earlier about using solid aluminum (or Diamond - which is the best heat conductor).

While you are designing this - might want to throw in a phase change cooler to keep everything cool inside. You could focus it on the CPU, graphics processor - and then vent actively in the case.

As for battery life - buy a rack mounted UPS and tear it apart for the batteries. That should give you some battery life to drive to and from work without powering it off.

 

There are differences between Dreams and Delusions. You my friend, have the latter.

To accomplish what you want you need vast computer hardware and software skills, as well as engineering and electrical skills. While you might have the first two, I highly doubt you have the second two. Not only do you need skills, but you need contacts with the tools to help you build your machine, as well as customize the components you want.

Not very many people are going to help you for free because this kind of stuff takes a lot of time and effort to get all the details worked out.

I suggest you refrain from asking people for help designing something that's almost impossible, until you have worked out what hardware you want and come up with an actual layout/schematic so that some of the more technical people here will actually have something to work with.

It might be possible for you to make this, but most likely not. I suggest you take the time to learn about everything required to not only build this computer hardware wise, but learn about how the power output will affect heat and all the different types of cooling you'll need to make this run. Also I'd make sure I knew all the dimensions and figured out exactly how everything would fit in the case and not make things melt.

So far it just seems like you're asking other people to tell you how to build this.

 

Wow, is he really only 12? He should be thankful for whatever his parents decide to give him. When I was 12 I had my parents hand-me-down T2 HP that still had a 2d integrated graphics card, and was appreciative.