Change 2 year warranty into 820qm

Hey
I ordered a 8690 around a week ago, and as its backordered I still have to wait

Im now thinking, I paid $140 for 1 more year of warranty, and I could trade that in and pay $60 more(a fraction of what the laptop cost) and get the 820qm.

What do you think? How important is the 2 years parts, is the 820qm worth the risk?

----EDIT-----
I am not overclocking, but latley I have been using a 2.4ghz dual core and have been amazed,and having that 2.8ghz dual core turbo boost really sounds amazing(was used to a 1.6ghz dual core)

 

If you like taking risks, maybe you should overclock the 720qm?

 

Not planning on over clocking
will update thread with more details.
What do you think if im not overclocking gpu/cpu, warranty for 1 year is ok?

 

Honestly most problems arise after about 3 years anyway and more towards the 4 years mark, id just get the better CPU... but that's me.

Also you can insure your laptop through a local insurance broker, and it's actually cheaper than you might think.. my 9280 will be insured very soon.

One more thing...the 720 has 6mb of L3 cache whereas the 820 has the full 8mb of the desktop version.

 

Good point.

 

+1 for CPU upgrade...
just assume that you got a fully working laptop with no defects...all you need is to give it proper care , and can last for decades

 

kk
Need to talk to justin, have already pmed him
thanks, will do a full review once I get it(once its status is stage 4 shipped I will make a thread asking for things people want me to say.

 

There should be another option of SSD, or perhaps just saving the cash altogether.

 

Since I've already ordered I cant get the cash back, and I don't really need a ssd.
im going the get the processor,as I have realized the 2 year warranty isnt needed/

 

The mobile i7's are hot lil chips.. 132w under load.. keep the warrenty...

Better safe than sorry.

IMHO.

Be well all, JW

 

Since when were the mobile i7's 132W TDP or even wattage?

If the mobile i7 was 132W TDP, then the W860CU and W870CU would melt. If the mobile i7 consumed 132W of power, then the W860CU and the W870CU would shut down as the power supply that much current.

 

I think the 820qm is only 45W TDP.

 

Battery & Idle
Idle with no battery 39W
Idle with battery 80W
Idle Frequency 1.2GHz
Internet Browsing
Max Consumption 58W
Max Frequency 2.8GHz
Gaming
Mode Consumption 122W
Max Consumption 132W

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1084/11/

 

That's the overall system consumption. Your statement was referencing that the mobile i7 consumes 132W under load.

 

I keep telling people they are hot lil chips..

But the cloud management by intel and HP and Dell and __________ (<-- add corporate swill pusher name here.) makes them (them being the i7 mobiles) seem like a great switch.. the QX's have 12mb Caches but becuase the QX's lack the L3 Cache people think the lil chips are better?

I am honestly a noob.. but risk aversion in a laptop to me equals stay away from hot hardware.. for the sake of longevity any way..

Be well all, JW

 

What is max voltage for a chip 1.5v or around about? the 45w for the baby i7's and the the 55w for the 2Ghz..

http://ark.intel.com/Compare.aspx?ids=36727,40480,43126,43124,

 

The i7's are hot because Intel integrated the northbridge onto the CPU. Anybody who has felt the heatsink of a P45 northbridge knows that it gets pretty toasty when using the CPU, RAM, and GPU. With the chipset on-die, one would think that the overall TDP of the i7 would be higher, but in fact it is quite cool in proportion at 45W and 55W TDP compared to the C2Q. No more northbridge means smaller motherboards, one unified and robust cooling system for the CPU instead of a CPU and northbridge sharing the same heatsink or seperate heatsinks, etc.

 

The maximum voltage allowed by the 920XM is 1.4v.

 

We then ran the multi thread benchmark in Cinebench and observed that with all 4 cores running at max, the system did not increase the CPU frequency from the rated core speed of 2.0GHz most likely due to the heat that was being output since the system will attempt to keep the max TDP of the 920XM processor at 55W. We did observe a roughly 60W jump when we first started the multi thread test, but then the system settled in at 92W which was a 50W increase from idle.

They are saying under load it jumped up.. quite a bit from the 55w..

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1084/11/

Once again I am a NOOB! but from what the Ninja / Pro's are saying.. I am leaning in the direction of the lil mobile i7's being HOT!

 

for the 130w+++... the baby i7's might as well be a real i7.. IMHO.. but I am no Ninja / Pro to be sure.. but the numbers keep on stacking up to equal a hot running family of chips..

Even if the chips are just over clocking themselves..

I think that Intel and HP / Dell / all the larger name brands like the idea of hot hardware.. so the laptop will die.. so they can sell another one..

I see laptops getting hotter not cooler.. I see the Ninja / Pro's like you Soviet either adding cooper or cooling blocks and in the extreme.. under volting for safety.. or longevity of the machine..

I think you are fine.. but for me (maybe not me becuase I will ship mine to you) or regular Noob / sheep users the heat will kill the laptops early..

The regualr broader market will cook these things leaving the laptop on the couch.. or on the bed with the vents / fans blocked.. and poof! fried gpu or welding comes undone and poof!

I think it is just a ploy to sell more laptops..

What do you think? am I crazy? no, wait dont answer that.. do you think I am on to something.. with regard to the heat being generated on purpose?

Thanks in advnace for any time taken to answer my noob(sih) questions, JW

 

All of those big name reviewers were issued ES 920XM's and a non-final production W870CU from Clevo. I don't know what revision ES Clevo gave them, but I do know that some of the older ES 920XM's are restricted in manual overclocking and in Turbo Boost. That may be the results that they are seeing, not heat.

 

I'm not even going to answer this post. I've seen enough shenanigans from you for one day.

 

I have read that even the 920 will not have an un-locked multiplier?

If it is an X chip shouldnt it, in theory... or traditionaly Intel Xtreme chips had the option..

I wonder.. why that is? do you have a theory?

 

You are the Man!

No biggie.. you are a great sport.. and I am sure a lot of other noobs will read this and know more becuase of you.. I for the longest time just read.. and never asked any questions becuase I did not want to be a tool.. but someone has to ask the silly questions so other readers can learn.. so I am the official whipping post.. which is fine.. it is really for my benefit and people like me.. so we can learn..

You taking the time to educate me / others.. is really a good thing.

IMHO.

My best to you and yours as always Soviet Sunrise, JW

 

My god man. You're giving me a headache. The 920XM's bins are unlocked. But it is up to the notebook manufacturer to code the system BIOS to utilize the 920XM's unlocked multipliers. Notebooks are much more finesse than desktops and are very picky about power consumption, thermal constraints, compatibility, and so on. Not everyone that invests in a $1k CPU is technologically literate and will crank the CPU to bounds I wouldn't even of think of touching because they're stupid. That is why notebook manufacturers remove or restrict overclocking for unlocked CPU's to avoid that stupidity because they are the ones that have to clean up after the end-users' mess. The amount of stress put on a notebook from overclocking is much greater compared to a desktop.

 

They would not let me rep you again.. but you know how much good information you just gave away.. that most people dont know..

Many Thanks... from me and all the people who will not ask a question.. the ones just reading becuase they dont want to seem stupid.. or look stupid..

But on funny note.. so you think I would oc the system to the point of causing a 5 alarm fire? Nooooooooooooo.... Not me?

I have you for Cooling.. but the broader market.. O Ya!

http://www.techeta.com/tag/core-i7

http://techreport.com/articles.x/17669

It is a larger laptop 17 inches.. I would love to see a sub woofer in it though..

 

Well soviet, you definitely know what your talking about
So, if you were in my position what would you do?
Getting the 820qm will result in me having only a 1 year warranty, and adding another $60USD(which is around 66CAD+13% tax)
So around another $80 to my order.
Is the extra .2ghz worth it? I dont care about resell value, just speed

 

Your warranty is only useful if you put it to use. What I mean is, you will only get your money's worth if you somehow screw up your system and send it in. I have owned three Clevo notebooks, all bought from the same reseller and all of them bearing one year warranties, and they have never failed me because I know how to diagnose and address every single issue that may come upon it. In other words, I consider myself the warranty because I am that familiar with my notebooks. And believe me, I have run into my own handful of issues with them, but were easily addressed. For example, on my M38AW that I am typing on right now, the GPU used to run hot into the high 80's. The GPU is not easily accessible via paneling, rather by dismantling the whole chassis. To my surprise, I find that the GPU had an overload of thermal paste and a thermal pad near the end of the exhaust vent, which impeded airflow out of the case. Fix that all up and what do you know, a full ten degrees cooler.

To put it to you this way, I would go with the 820QM and the one year warranty. As long as you take care of your notebook like you take care of living breathing beings, it won't break down on you anytime soon. By this I mean that you regularly perform routine maintenance on it atleast once a month and keep your OS and software streamlined. One year is plenty of time to familiarize yourself with your notebook and to gather all information you can so that you can prepare yourself for any issues, if any, in the future. Any faulty parts should easily surface during the first few months of your warranty, so one year is plenty regarding unavoidable problems on the hardware level as well. Being a self-reliant, self-sufficient, and knowledgeable user is the best route you can take.

It's really up to you though. If you just want that peace of mind having two years of coverage, then go for it and keep the 820QM as well. Just live off of dried noodles for another week. But know that in two years time, the die shrink of Sandy Bridge, and the GT200 and/or Fermi will be around the corner.

 

Ok, I'll have to edit my order
Ill just send them $60 on paypal I guess.
Thanks

 

Personally, I think if a notebook manufacturer allowed full access to the vcore and clock gen like on enthusiast desktop motherboards, I think that you really would be one of those people that would satisfy your curiosity and crank the CPU just for the hell of it. But by me saying this, I have positioned myself in the status quo that you can break the logical chain by saying that you aren't one of those people and that you would leave it alone.

What I don't understand about The Tech Report's review of the 920XM and the W870CU is why they pitted the Clevo against all those lower bracket notebooks. It's a pointless comparison. The only good part of their review worth reading is probably page two where they actually bench the 920XM.

The W870CU does have a "subwoofer."

 

You should be able to get your money back. Don't they have money refund policy? I think you should get 2 years warranty and lower spec CPU - this is new model with high thermal specs, so longer warranty may save you some money long term

 

Yea, except that would be after 2 years, long term wouldnt be affected by 2 years instead of 1.
I can add it to my insurance anyways, theft, accidental damage,acts of god, etc.
Much cheaper