Chaz's 9262 review

Any idea why Vista would out perform XP so greatly in the Crysis benchmarks?




Can anyone confirm/deny this? I read over and over how XP performs better pretty much across the board.

 

Maybe because it is using dx10 on Vista.

PL

 

can you give us the full article? dx10 supposed to slow down

 

I read somewhere that calling dx9 functions in dx10 was faster than dx9 using dx9 functions, maybe that why there is a gap of perfs.

 

Crysis is probably optimized to work with _Vista instead of XP, including some of the new stuff that was added under the hood (e.g., superfetch, and adaptive I/O management)

 

.... hmmmm ....

|vista the worst OS for gaming....|

well that's one more benchmark that disproves that theory.

 

Driver issues.
Just ask people with XP and SLI 8800M GTXs, XP gets them BETTER results than VISTA Period.
Something was up.

 

I think games are beginning to be more and more optimized for Vista than XP and that clearly reflects in newer games like Crysis.

 

are you both suggesting that we can have higher fps in crysis on vista?

 

Or, given that Crysis is otherwise so far off the beaten path, the exception that proves the rule (not exactly what everyone thinks it means - think along the lines of "proof" in liquor).

 

I smell alien conspiracy.

 

Most of the new computers sold are already coming with Vista.
Gamers are still opting for XP but let's face it, Vista is being pushed into the market and companies that create computer games are just trying to make money.
Vista is installed and sold with so many new machines that it is much more profitable for these companies to try to get their share of this future mainstream market and optimize their games accordingly.
Why would you invest more money into optimizing for the XP market that's becoming smaller by the day?

 

I don't know what youre implying, but even chaz was baffled. Quote from that page:

"I could not figure out why the Windows XP setup refused to give good FPS results in this game, but it is clearly a software issue as in all other games XP and Vista had extremely similar results. Nevertheless, the Crysis performance in Vista was absolutely astonishing; it really does take dual 8800M-GTX graphics cards to drive this game at a 1920x1200 resolution. The game was a joy to play at such a high resolution and FPS. "

Also, all the other games ran well on XP, so I wouldn't count this against it.

 

Dual boot XP and Vista?

 

Well for what its worth, i have posted numerous posts with pics of my crysis performance all the while using windows vista. Now I showed some of the Alienware members, and some sager members, what fps they should be roughly getting in the game with the 8800m. Some of the AW members thought i was doctoring the screenshots, becasue my performance was always 3-8 fps betters than theres. The members who were getting less performance with crysis were using xp. Now there can be so many reasons why this is, but XP was always in the mix for the worse performers. I believe in some way with the drivers/os newer games will really begin to perform better.

Also gear of war ( with dx10 AA on) performs better on vista than with xp no aa. So take it for what its worth.

I like Vista, and i loved XP, they are both great for gaming in my opinion. I would use what my computer came with, or whatever is the cheapest.lol.

 

Don't believe that score for XP!

That score is lower then what I and everyone else get with a single card. Something was obviously screwed up. Just look at the scores that have been posted here... XP always beats Vista at 1920x1200 high settings with DX9, SLI and non-SLI.

 

do not believe those scores. they are messed up. chaz has a history of providing un-reliable benchmarks (same thing with his alienware m9750 review).

i score 39 fps average at 1440x900 in sli and xp. no way he is scoring 50 fps average in vista at that res just because he has a fast dual core cpu.

 

If it's legit I'm swapping my E6850 for an E8400 as soon as I can!

 

Something was definitely screwed up, I couldn't figure it out. Note that I attributed it entirely to software and didn't count it against the NP9262 since the performance under Vista was amazing.

The Crysis benchmarks for Vista are accurate. I ran the benchmark a number of times using the Crysis built-in benchmark. It gave me the results in the command line.

I plainly noted in the NP9262 review that the numbers for XP were off - that is the only benchmark that was not in line with the rest of them with regards to expected performance. I put no spin/bias on any benchmarks and do what I can to make sure that benchmarks are accurate. Consider what you say before saying it. I stand behind every one of the nearly two dozen notebook reviews I have written.

 

wobble can you post your sli score in 1440x900 all high?

i would think you would be in-line with my scores even with your fast dual core;

800x600 all high dx9 = 49.16 fps avg. single gpu

1280x960 all high dx9 = 31.91 fps avg. single gpu

1440x900 all high dx9 = 29.62 fps avg. single gpu

1680x1050 all high dx9 = 23.37 fps avg. single gpu

1920x1200 all high dx9 = 18.86 fps avg. single gpu

800x600 all high dx9 = 43.50 fps avg. sli card

1280x960 all high dx9 = 41.67 fps avg. sli card

1440x900 all high dx9 = 38.56 fps avg. sli card

1680x1050 all high dx9 = 35.19 fps avg. sli card

1920x1200 all high dx9 = 30.28 fps avg. sli card

 

Wobble, the E6850 and E8400 are nearly identical in performance with the E8400 just slightly faster in some benchmarks. If you already have a 6850, don't waste the money on a 8400, unless you really want to.

Check out the comparison here .

 

I told you guys, Xp should provide some 2-5fps more than Vista.

 

So there is some driver problem there?

PL

 

Of course,either a driver or something was up with Crysis.Just check the other games...

 

Assassin's Creed performs better in DX10 than DX9, for example.

 

Well, having finished the game in DX9, I wouldn`t know.
I guess the way is being paved for Vista, forcedly

 

Sucky ending though, non ?

And time for you to upgrade!

 

Lol, the laptop came with Vista, but I figured XP was better off for me, since I have a DX9 card.
However,this summer , the 8/9800M GTX will be mine

 

Yeah.. that's what I meant.. "upgrade" the GPU !

 

!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 47.60s, Average FPS: 42.02
Min FPS: 13.48 at frame 151, Max FPS: 55.97 at frame 995
Average Tri/Sec: -37631084, Tri/Frame: -895631
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -1.02
TimeDemo Play Ended, (2 Runs Performed)

Right. I was kidding but I keep forgetting to use emoticons.

Thanks for the link.