Choosing a display for my NP9758-S, need input: FHD vs 4k

I'm building a NP9758-S, and in choosing a display, I could really use some input. I'll be using the laptop mainly for gaming. Cost is of low priority since I've been saving up for this.

Here are my options:
1) LG LP156WF6-SPB1 (g-sync capable) Specs Here
2) Samsung LTN156FL02-101 (g-sync capable) Specs Here
3) Sharp IGZO LQ156D1JX01B (not g-sync capable) Specs Here
4) Sharp IGZO LQ156D1JW04 (not g-sync capable) Specs Here
5) htwingnut mentioned in his 9758 review that a 75Hz was available if I understood him correctly, but I can't find any vendors with that option

So here are my questions:

• Would the arguably better specs offered by the sharp displays outweigh the advantage of having g-sync?
• If I could find the 75Hz display, would it theoretically work with g-sync at that frequency?
• Do the overall aesthetics of a 4k display over a 1920x1080 FHD outweigh the downsides: 1) larger resolution = more taxing of the gpu, heat/power usage. 2) possibly compatibility issues with apps/games in the beginning. 3) samsung 4k is LPS and lg FHD is IPS, so theoretically the LG FHD has better viewing angles and more vibrance. 4) cost (low priority for me).
• Would a 4k screen tax the gpu more than the FHD screen to the extent that I might have to reduce graphics settings?
• To what extent do nits matter? Context: The LG FHD screen averages 300 nits, where the samsung 4k screen averages only 270 nits. The sharp screens both average 330 nits. Are these noticable/significant differences? Is the samsung 4k going to look noticeably dimmer than the average screen?

Thank you for any input. And if you notice anything else worth mentioning in those spec sheets, that would be a big help as well.

 

1080P

This machine is not powerful enough for 4K gaming. And it's a 15" screen, you don't need 4K for this.

I personally don't have issues with 1080p with text and browsing. But if you need that super sharp text, get 4K, but do not be deluded a 980M is 4K Gaming capable with current AAA and upcoming AAA titles.

 

Since you will use it mainly for gaming, I would opt against the 4K screen. Unless you go 970M/ 980M (SLI) you will have troubles running recent games at an acceptable framerate (60+). 4K really takes a beefy system. Besides, for such a small screen, the difference in sharpness or crispness is negligible. On a 40"+ 4K TV you would notice it much more.

 

I concur with above. I'd opt for 1080p G-sync IPS. 4K is just not an appropriate LCD unless you're looking for color fidelity for professional phootograpyh, which the 4K screens are usually very good in that respect, otherwise more nuisance than a benefit.

 

Thanks guys, to be honest I was hoping you would suggest I go with the 1080p. htwingnut -- would you happen to have any info on that 1080p display with g-sync that is stock 75Hz? it was mentioned in your NP9758 review, but I can't find it, and am interested. Is it the 1080p lg screen that is an option over at LPC Digital? Zymphad, would you know?

 

Honestly, I would say go with 4K. With 4K, you can always downscale to 1080p until you upgrade to a better GPU in the future.

 

too bad the panasonic 3K display aint available anymore, its the sweet spot for gaming on the 980M and still gives u more than double the resolution of FHD

 

Even with a 980M in there, the 4k will just be difficult to power, while for movies and media content it could be nice and you could downscale to 1080p for gaming, i just think that would be a waste at that point and you may be better off doing other upgrades to it, that could actually help with the gaming aspect that you are wanting to use the PC for.

Along with that, most 4k panels i've seen so far have issues reproducing yellows, and they frankly just look a little off. Might not be a big deal for most, but imagine fighting in a night time scene with street lights yellowing everything and making it look odd. I just think right now the best bet is to stick with 1080p until GPU's start to match up to 4k resolutions with decent frame rates.

 

Yep, that's true with Samsung 4k panels but not with the Sharp ones.

 

I'd also say go with 1080p. G-SYNC is one of the major selling features of the newer Skylake models, so you want a display compatible with that.

The 4K screens add a large chunk of change to your system's cost, and unless you require 100% colour gamut coverage, you won't get much else from it. Downscaling becomes a necessity in a lot of games, and Windows still sometimes has scaling issues.

As mentioned, certain panels have issues with yellow reproduction, and the 4K panels that don't aren't G-SYNC capable. And I'd seriously question the logic of getting one of these machines without G-SYNC.

 

call me crazy then. id rather go for higher res than gsync, hasnt really won me over tbh...

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Why? Not everyone has gaming as the main purpose for these powerful laptops, you know?

 

True, but the cost is so small, why not? RAM can be upgraded, SSDs added. G-SYNC isn't so easily added later on. And G-SYNC doesn't just benefit gaming, though that's its main goal.

Though you're right, maybe that was a bit harshly worded. I'll change it.

 

You is CRAZY.

 

So, is there a 3K panel that can be used? Eurocom's website implies that it is but they don't offer one...

 

Any panel will work of the right size and connector, it's a question of sourcing it.

 

I'm the same as Jaybee.. I rather have a higher res then GSync.....

 

So FYI, I found out that the 1080p LG g-sync panel is in fact 75Hz before overclocking, despite what the spec sheet says

 

Hmm, weird then.

Mine came stock at 60Hz. I seriously doubt anybody would under-clock a display. Hence, I also highly doubt it's a 75Hz display, unless it's a different (slightly) revision/model.

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Yeah the model number these are supposedly shipping with now is #1 in my original post, which Larry from LPC digital is confirming to be 75hz despite the spec sheet. Looks like your model number is slightly different.

Maybe someone with a recent purchase can check for us to confirm that model number and the frequency?

Edit: just realized you're on a different model laptop since you have a 17.3 inch screen. Not sure if only the 15.6 are stock 75

 

Yes the panels are a little different, I think the 17.3" ones are not unless specifically listed in the specs of the machine you have ordered.

 

Hey so I have more information on this after some research. The deal is that these monitors are truly 60Hz monitors. However, clevo/sager modified the bios to have these overclock to 75Hz. This bios modification allows g-sync to work in full screen mode at 75Hz (not sure if nvidia control panel could achieve full screen g-sync at 75Hz without the bios mod). In fact, NP9773's came with that exact model number that you have in your screenshots, but they came as 75Hz out of the box because of the bios modification. So I guess they're doing that same thing with the 1080p LG monitor in the NP9758-S/P750DM-G. Most people were able to further overclock them up to 100Hz, but I think 75Hz is fine.

 

I'll get in touch with my vendor to see why mine didn't come with a BIOS-OC to 75Hz

 

The good news is you should be able to get a bios to get you to 75hz, if you did decide you want 75hz.

 

no need for a bios, just set a custom resolution profile in the nvidia driver menu and enjoy ur 75hz

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Another strongly in favor of the 1080p G-Sync here. I have the 17" version with FHD and G-Sync and its amazing. It came stock 75hz and I've overclocked it to 100hz. I have the 970m, and I can't max most new titles at 1080p, would be getting 20-30fps at 4k on them.

For those that suggest downscaling to 1080p, I have a 4k laptop for photography, and everything looks AWFUL when you downscale it. A 1080p native resolution at 1080p looks much better than 4k native at 1080p.

 

I have the sharp 4k available from eurocom and I cannot recommend it enough. I have played fallout 4 on ultra at 1080 and it looks fine. When doing work the 4k pixel density makes text and photos much easier to look at long-term

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My P750DM-G/1080p came 60hz as well. I also cannot overclock it past 64hz via usual methods.

I was under the impression that only the P770 (17") came with the 1080p 75hz and overclockable display.

 

as with every other hardware component, it depends on the individual display how far u can overclock it. so basically its the same principle as the silicon lottery, ure either in luck or out of luck with ur particular panel

mine only does 65 hz

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I got confirmation from Larry at LPC Digital that the 15.6 np9758 is shipping w 75hz on the FHD screen

 

Would be keen to see what panel model is. Particularly if it's different to the P750DM-G. Maybe the G-Sync panel is 60hz but the non-G-Sync is 75hz.

 

It's the same g-sync panel that is 60hz (the 1080p are all g-sync), but it's bios overclocked to 75hz before shipping, and then most people can overclock it further (sometimes up to 100hz). We were talking about it earlier in the thread

 

Can anybody confirm if the p750dm can easily go 75hz? Help as i will be purchasing one thanks!


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It depends on the panel which would depend on where you got the p750dm from. most likely if it's 60hz with some overclocking you can get it up, but would depend on the panel.

 

The P770ZM LG IPS Pannel does 75Hz usually.... The P750DM's LG pannel has issues at 63-65Hz and soft locks on it I heard..

 

The 17.3" LG LP173WF4-SPF1 IPS FHD Matte Screen (G-SYNC) is 75hz from the factory. On my Eurocom Sky X9, I don't even see any other refresh rate option other than 75hz unless I create a custom one through the nVIDIA Control Panel.

 

They will ship it with 60hz firmware too.