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    Chose between 120Hz 3D Screen and SSD

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by jasonst, Aug 30, 2011.

  1. jasonst

    jasonst Newbie

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    I plan to buy a gaming laptop.
    Would someone give me option about to chose between
    1. Malibal Satori P170HM with FREE UPGRADE 120 Hz 3D 72% NTSC Matte Display with GTX 485M or HD 6990M

    or go with
    2. Sager NP8170 with "Glare Type" display and HD6990M
    Save $100 from Labor Day Promo to buy SSD drive :confused:


    Thanks !
     
  2. Wildcat11

    Wildcat11 Notebook Consultant

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    I would go with the screen myself. While both are user upgradable I would feel way more comfortable installing a new HD myself than a screen. Not to mention I would imagine you could buy the SSD hard drive at cheaper % vs the upgraded screen. Either way you can still have both just have to get your hands dirty down the road.
     
  3. c0nfucius

    c0nfucius Notebook Consultant

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    Hi, welcome to NBR!

    Well, there's three main points of contention:

    1) Matte vs Glossy: do you mind the glare caused by glossy screens? I have owned a glossy screen laptop and dislike the glare that occurs in my workplace.
    2) 3D vs None: are you anticipating playing games in 3D and/or watching 3D movies? <s>If you go with AMD's HD3D, it is a less mature 3D solution than the nVIDIA offering.</s>
    3) SSD Drive: does full boot-up in 30 seconds sounds enticing?

    It is also important to note that the Sager NP8170 and the Malibal Satori (Clevo) P170HM are the same laptop.

    With all that said I would probably pounce on the Malibal one with the 6990M, as I am confident that AMD will continue to improve HD3D (not that it's a deal-breaker to me), plus there is more raw performance power from the 6990M. <s>Having a matte display that so happens to be 3D is also a great touch (does it include the glasses and transmitter?).</s>

    Oh, also remember that if you connect your laptop to a certified 3DTV, you can view 3D content on a big screen instead.
     
  4. MALIBAL

    MALIBAL Company Representative

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    Hi Jason, the 6990M isn't available with the 3D screen - however, if you want to opt for the 6990M instead of the 3D screen, we can help you out on the price. :)
     
  5. terminus123

    terminus123 Notebook Deity

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    a few things to consider:

    -SSD you can upgrade later down the line, screen is much harder
    -SSD actually will improve performance noticeably.
    -You can buy an external 120Hz screen and play 3D on that from your notebook.
     
  6. jasonst

    jasonst Newbie

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    It looks like 120Hz 3D een can only go with Nvidia card.

    Now I am more to chose better display with GTX 485M instead with 6990M for performance.

    MALIBAL, How can I contact you for more detail question?
     
  7. MALIBAL

    MALIBAL Company Representative

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    Jason, please email us through our site or once you get 5 posts on here you can also send us a PM. :)
     
  8. Zero12345678

    Zero12345678 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I had the same problem as the op a few days ago, minus the ssd. I went with a RAID 0 config instead of the ssd.

    I was trying to decide between the 485m with the 120hz screen or the 6990m and the glossy screen. As I understand it, the default glossy screen is 60% gamut while the 120hz one is 72%, which means the 120hz one can display more colors. I am not an expert on this but thats what Malibal customer service told me. The 120hz one is also matte, so less glare, but from what I have seen the glossy screen does not have that much glare either.

    I figured that the reason why I was buying this high end rig was so that I could play my games with all the eye candy and so it was a better choice to get a better screen while sacrificing a little performance (the 485m is slightly worse than the 6990m).

    I ended up choosing the 580m with the 120hz, as MALIBAL helped me out with the price. :D Combined with the free 120hz screen, I figured it was worth the 250 dollar upgrade.
     
  9. WarrenJS

    WarrenJS Notebook Enthusiast

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    I don't know if I am off the mark here but does the 3D screen consume more power? I read it somewhere else and was just looking for confirmation myself before making the leap to the 3d screen.

    The only reason I ask is if people are looking to OC either their GPU and/or CPU would an added power requirement curb one's ability for OC'n?

    Sorry, I hope this isn't hijacking your thread.

    W
     
  10. c0nfucius

    c0nfucius Notebook Consultant

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    Apparently 3D uses up so much power that Clevo stopped releasing unlocked BIOS for the 3D edition of the P170HM, because users who overclocked and were running 3D applications fried their PSUs. So, maybe you need an even larger PSU to compensate?
     
  11. dabooosh

    dabooosh Notebook Consultant

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    There a way to utilize the 120Hz while turning off the 3D? I like the 2ms/120hz of the screen but don't see myself using the 3D unless watching a video.

    Laptop is shipping today! Should have it tomorrow. :)
     
  12. jasonst

    jasonst Newbie

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    Ha, I almost do the same as you did.
    Do you try any 3D and have any comment on it? :D
     
  13. jasonst

    jasonst Newbie

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    Actually, I also search for GTX 485M with OC topic if I can go with it. The performance won't be too bad compare to with 6990m.

    Oh !! :mad: Did you mean there is no way to OC the GTX 485M with 3D edition?
     
  14. lazard

    lazard Notebook Deity

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    CPU, not GPU.
     
  15. jasonst

    jasonst Newbie

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    My bad. Never OC CPU or GPU before. :p
     
  16. Anthony@MALIBAL

    Anthony@MALIBAL Company Representative

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    There should be, they aren't the same thing. You enable/disable 3D Vision on a per-game basis with hotkeys. If you don't want it, just leave it off. 120hz is just a function of the display itself, so anything that supports that can run it :)
     
  17. stevil30

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    so how does a future buyer get helped out with the price? :)
     
  18. Anthony@MALIBAL

    Anthony@MALIBAL Company Representative

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    If you have 5 or more posts here, you can PM us on the boards. Or use the contact info in my sig for live chat/phone/ticketing. :)
     
  19. urmystlkal

    urmystlkal Notebook Consultant

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    Hey Mailbal, I sent a PM yesterday, how long does it usually take for a reply? Also had a question regarding the screens... Any idea which one would compare to the one on this Sony Vaio. I have it at home and it's beautiful. It looks a lot more glossier than a matte screen, but it has a anti-glare coating. I just picked up a Asus VE228H and the screen looks like crap next to it. Are any of the Sager screens on par w/ this one?
     
  20. terminus123

    terminus123 Notebook Deity

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    For the P150HM, there are 95% NTSC screens. Average screens are 60-72% NTSC. So if your looking for a high-quality screen for professional use or just nice color representation, get the 95% NTSC screens (comes in both glossy and matte)
     
  21. Anthony@MALIBAL

    Anthony@MALIBAL Company Representative

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    Reply time depends on which rep you sent the PM to, but most of the time turn-around is less than 24 hours (and often just a few minutes if we're currently online).

    Anyway, as for the screen, you can't go wrong with the 95% color gamut. Anandtech rated the 95% screens as some of the best panels they've ever seen in a laptop display:

    I'm not familiar with the model you're looking at and couldn't comment on it if I was, but the upgraded screens in the Clevo models are some of the best out there.
     
  22. urmystlkal

    urmystlkal Notebook Consultant

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    Well I'd def like to get the best, but man is it all expensive... Started w/ gaming laptop, then went to 6990, then want the Seagate 500gb XT, then went back and forth with warrenty, now the screen. lol. I'm pretty disappointed in this Asus monitor though, now that I'm looking at this Sony right next to it
     
  23. hotblack_desiato

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    So as was previously posted, the 3d screen will eat more power than a normal one? Is this by a lot or just like 30 minutes of battery life.
     
  24. Mr_Mysterious

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    I disagree, but that's only because i use an external monitor all the time. Personally, i would take a good, reliable ssd over the screen. However, keeping in mind that prices are dropping really fast for ssd's, and i dont know what the market of screens are like, i'd go for the screen and wait until the prices of ssds are much more palatable. Also, keep in mind its much easier to replace an ssd than you can replace a screen.

    Mr. Mysterious
     
  25. Blacky

    Blacky Notebook Prophet

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    Yeah, take the screen!

    You can upgrade the SSD later at any time, the screen is a bit trickier and it interacts with the warranty policy.
     
  26. urmystlkal

    urmystlkal Notebook Consultant

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    Well my problem is, the external monitor is the one that looks bad next to the laptop. Not the other way around. I'm just not sure which of Sagers screens compares to this Vaio and I'd like a diff external but not sure which one to get now since this got such good reviews. I would prefer a glossy but they don't seem easy to find. Wish you could separate them on Newegg.

    Oh and to the OP since I high jacked, sorry about that. I would go w/ the screen as well for the reasons above. Much easier to add the SSD and the price will go down eventually anyway.
     
  27. Mr_Mysterious

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    Unless you are a photographer/video editor expert, ALL sager screens are fine. :) i'm more than happy with my 60% gamut matte screen. Best screen i have seen on a laptop so far (in person). As for my external, I use the asus VW246H.

    Mr. Mysterious