Has there been any word about Clevo making models with Coffee Lake as well as release dates?
Actually looking forward to having a hexa / octo-core CPU....anything but quad-core thanks!
-
-
Agreed, but clevo+ryzen might still be better!
JorgeManuelSilva91, ghegde and hmscott like this. -
I am not supposed to say anything, but:
covfefe
[\SPOILER]KY_BULLET, clayton006, ghegde and 12 others like this. -
I can't post it here as it's all under NDA, but if you google the release date you can find out pretty much everything. As always, we will be launching in line with all other major laptop manufacturers, but until the MDA clears you'll only find specific information in leaks.
I fear you've released a MONSTER, Covfefe Lake is going to catch on ;-)ImHere, bennyg, Papusan and 1 other person like this. -
apparently it's in August.
-
That 21st, which is being thrown around, is just for the paper tiger...Last edited: Aug 12, 2017
-
Oh ok. hopefully the consumer release isn't too far off and a custom bios along with it
Prema, Ionising_Radiation and hmscott like this. -
Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)
I look forward to a P650XX with hexacore i7s and GTX 1070...
-
mobile versions are a totally different story.Stress Tech and Papusan like this.
-
Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)
Is that good news or bad news? -
Good if you want to or just bought something now, bad if you are waiting for the next best thing as you will need a lot more patience.
Right now #Covfefe Lake is mainly just Intel's response to AMD`s desktop parts, so you can expect it at first to show up only in the monster type of system.Last edited: Aug 12, 2017ole!!!, Stress Tech, hmscott and 3 others like this. -
Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)
Guess it's time to play the waiting game... -
Intel time table for the last years
Skylake
i7-6700k Q3 2015
i7-6700hq Q3 2015
i7-6500u Q3 2015
Kabylake
i7-7700k Q1 2017
i7-7700hq Q1 2017
i7-7500u Q3 2016
so may be now intel annuces U cpus? or also desktop cpus?hmscott likes this. -
The difference right now is that Ryzen and especially threadripper now offer better price/performance throughout the entire CPU stack (with the exception of low end R3 lacking iGPU affecting total system cost) so the sandbagged performance gains and staggered product release schedules of the last 5 years from Intel might not be a good indication of what is to come. (look at the mildly disorganised rush job that X299's launch was, for example)
Intel are trying some constant covfefe and paper launches to rain on TR's parade right now is my thought. -
-
Apparently there's gonna be new models announced or released in september / october. I could be wrong though
-
No point in buying new laptop models with next gen processor, if it comes with old Pascal graphics. Money down the drain.KabyZen, Stress Tech, hmscott and 1 other person like this.
-
-
If the promised baked in TB and Wifi do not appear in Coffee Lake, it will be another Intel disappointment I guess
hmscott and Ionising_Radiation like this. -
Meaker@Sager Company Representative
I hope AMD are plowing everything into the next shrink of Ryzen. Give intel even more of a kick
Stress Tech, ghegde, hmscott and 4 others like this. -
grab a used 1060 or 1070 for cheap from somewhere if u can until 2080 sli comes up. tbh 2080 prob just more cores of 1080 still same architecture though.
i believe thats in z390 not z370. 8700k comes with desktop chipset which is z370. z390 and H300 wont come till later 2018 so we wont see built in TB/wifi yet.hmscott likes this. -
Meaker@Sager Company Representative
That (integrated TB) will be one to look out for if you want to use external GPUs with a minimum penalty.
-
So much for a Volta release!
http://www.pcgamer.com/nvidias-next-gen-volta-gaming-gpus-arent-arriving-anytime-soon/
EDIT: So it means either Kaby Lake + Pascal / Coffee Lake + Pascal are the only options.Last edited: Aug 14, 2017hmscott likes this. -
How much time uses to take Clevo to adapt their laptops to a new CPU architecture? New models, revisioned ones, etc.
hmscott likes this. -
Meaker@Sager Company Representative
We are usually around launch for the mobile CPUs.hmscott likes this. -
So are you saying that you release both LGA and BGA models at the same time, more or less?
Thank you for answer. -
Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Desktop models can take longer due to higher engineering costs/challenges. -
Maybe Intel Coffee Lake is drinking a cup of coffee at lake side and enjoying profits for short term while Ryzen is pulling ahead w/o taking a break.Ionising_Radiation likes this.
-
-
Exactly. If we could look closer we could spot @Papusan behind those trees.clayton006, Falkentyne, Stress Tech and 5 others like this.
-
So is it better to wait a few months and see what the laptop landscape is like or just go all in and get a new laptop?
Sent from my SM-N910G using Tapatalk -
Looks like the new i5 Coffee Lake layout will be sweet for gaming, so yeah, maybe its worth waiting.
But, in my case, I have not PC at this moment and I have a little bit more hurry
.
-
6-core i7 CL with a 1070 + a prema bios....SOLD!ghegde, ole!!!, jclausius and 1 other person like this.
-
-
PLUS FAT CPU HEATSINk I NEED TO SEE IT BADLY. hardware p0rn is real
or heatsink pronPapusan, Prostar Computer, Vasudev and 1 other person like this. -
Hmm I am not sure, I thought all 300 series chipsets will have the benefit
-
cj_miranda23 Notebook Evangelist
http://wccftech.com/intel-coffee-lake-8th-gen-core-i7-8700k-performance-specs-leak/
"Intel Core i7-8700K is 11% Faster in Single Threaded Benchmarks and 51% better multi-threaded scores compared to the Core i7-7700K"
I want 8 core 16 thread 500$ mainstream processor!!!! -
Hey no problem, 8 core / 16 thread, for $299 (1700), $359 (1700x), or $459 (1800x), all ready for delivery + motherboard / etc...
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...&Description=ryzen&ignorear=0&N=-1&isNodeId=1
Wow, look at all those awesome CPU's
Last edited: Aug 17, 2017ghegde and cj_miranda23 like this. -
cj_miranda23 Notebook Evangelist
What do you guys think of intel not matching the ryzen 1800/1700 in terms of core count. Maybe they're confident that the IPC advantage of their chip will be enough to surpass AMD ryzen?
-
6 core 8700K will kill 8 core R1700 in Asusbook!! And R1600/1700 fully locked down is the only other option for laptops now.hmscott likes this.
-
Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Perhaps in single thread, in multithread it's unlikely they would be able to overcome a 33% core deficit.
hmscott likes this. -
wahh how is that possible 11% faster in ST? thats another IPC increase or simply because yet another optimization. in ST 8700k is 4.7ghz, 7700k is 4.5ghz ST, thats only a 200mhz difference which should only be aorund 4.4% in clock speed difference. means the remaining of 11% come from else where?
-
Meaker@Sager Company Representative
It's wccftech, they are just making sure they predict every possible outcome
hmscott, ghegde and Ionising_Radiation like this. -
-
Except faster in single thread and therefore most games.
-
if the extra 11% aside from frequency 4.4% boost came from architecture optimization alone or cache increase then this cpu will be a champ.
-
I think ST for 8700K will be 4.5GHz
If you can run stock 7700K 4 core multi and 8700K has 50% more cores, where will Cinbench R15 scores land? I talk about 4.4GHZz on all 6 cores. Fully locked down 8 core Ryzen R1700 in Asusbook is around 1410cb.
I can see You don't expect Coffee can handle 4.4GHz for all 6 cores
My old 6700K or my 7700K running 4.5GHz is equal +1000cb in Cinbench R15. 50% more cores if the scaling works well will push 1500cb in CBR-15. Can we expect 4.5GHz with a good 8700K chips?
Or maybe I'm wrong?
@Mr. Fox
@ole!!!
@TBoneSan
@ajc9988
Last edited: Aug 18, 2017ole!!! likes this. -
The Ryzen 1600 Asus GL702zc CB15 score is 1122, and perfect scaling to Ryzen 1700 8 cores would be 1505cb - at the same frequencies, but the Ryzen 1700 clocked higher by a bit, so it might be higher
I don't think typical Covfefe Lake HQ CPU is going to match the Ryzen 1600 let alone the 1700, but the desktop CPU laptops might get close.Papusan likes this.
Clevo + Coffee Lake: Status?
Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by thegh0sts, Aug 12, 2017.