Clevo + Coffee Lake: Status?

also more copper

 

there was more copper. 1 more heat pipe and 1 more set of radiator fins right ontop of the added heatpipe. but if theres no extra fan to cool it then this wont work.

 

We will find out in the next 1-2 months when @Eurocom Support releases the mxm3.0 1080.

 

You do crack me up sometimes

 

how so?

 

The EM series all can run Pascal cards and the P570wm is from the same generation. The only problem with the P570WM is both MXM slots share the same power FETs for their supply, so two 191W cards would be too much. I would think a single 1080 would be fine.

 

Does anyone have a new clevo with a 8700k yet? Any temps? Just went back a good few threads saw temps but I didn't see if it was clevo.

I am probably going to wait until 2018 to get a new laptop because I can write it off for work (current laptop is a 4720hq). I am hearing some horror stories of 7700k's and 1080's causing throttling. I guess the rule is Compact, fast, cool and choose 2.

 

All the P870 series Clevo laptops with the Prema BIOS do not throttle. The P870KM1-G does not have the Prema BIOS just yet and with the stock Clevo BIOS; it does not throttle at low-med temps. The 7700K CPU (on P870KM1-G) probably drops down to 800Mhz on the desktop while idle... This is due to Intel SpeedStep Technology. When all the cores are in use, they never drop below 4.2Ghz, especially while gaming. Check out this video of Witcher 3; Wild Hunt gameplay on a P870KM1-G. The 7700K CPU stays at 4.5Ghz solid.

 

the 870 seems a bit to large for me. I need to travel.

How big at they compared to these? http://store.asus.com/us/item/20170...Intel+Core+i7+7820HK+GTX+1070+Copper+Titanium

I have seen them in person so I get how big they are. I was looking at the 775 model (I think) the one below the 870 with that can have a 8700k and a 1070. People reported those poorly for temps. One guy had to return his on youtube.

 

I'm not sure anyone has a Clevo, Coffee Lake model yet to compare. If you purchase through a good reseller HID, they'll have it set up for you so you should have ne issues, contact @Donald@HIDevolution He'll get you set up with what you need.

 

No one has them in stock yet.

 

I will wait until the new year. Donald and hid seem like good people. Once I have temps il compare it all.

 

Thanks @case_hart. We will be here to serve you whenever you are ready!

 

you got it boss! I was going to buy earlier but my accountant said to wait so I can write it off next year since this is a work machine. By then we will have all the info! Keep on making great laptops and delidding them!

 

Paperlaunchitis is catching?

 

Considering this product relies on another that is the one you are talking about I think you can guess what might delay things a bit.

 

Schenker: Gaming notebooks Ultra 15 & 17 + Zenith 17 with Hexacore CPUs

 

Looks like the Same barebone case to me. Is it confirmed that p775dm3-g users can upgrade by buying a new mainboard and cpu plus heatsinks?

 

Yes just more places announcing the ability to order. More testing needs to be done regarding swaps.

 

share some pics? internally of course

 

When I get them I will share them

 

When should they be arriving in from clevo? I read some resellers stated nov 15, If this is right some resellers should have them now

 

@Eurocom Support any word on an accelerated release for the Clevo z390 based laptops with 8c/16t CPU's?

Intel’s Z390 Motherboards Start Showing Up – Will Support Coffee Lake-S (Up To 8 Core) Processors, Arrival Due in 1H 2018
https://wccftech.com/intel-z390-motherboard-leak/

"The first Intel Z390 motherboard has just appeared on SiSoftware’s database revealing that the new products based on the upcoming chipset may arrive sooner than expected.

Intel Z390 Motherboard Appears Online – Will Support 8 Core CPUs, Arrival Expected Much Earlier Than Anticipated
The Intel Z390 is a not a new name that we are hearing of, it appeared months before the Coffee Lake-S launch. At that time, there was no evidence of why Intel was producing the chipset but later, we got to learn that the chipset will be designed to support 8 core CPUs that Intel will be launching in 2018 to compete against AMD’s Ryzen processors of the same tier."

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...coffee-lake-z370.809268/page-38#post-10633359

 

There's already an Anandtech article about Coffeelake H series too along with many other to-be-released SKUs for desktop
https://www.anandtech.com/show/1207...on-processor-lists-leaked-coffee-lake-refresh

 

Notebook P7xxTM1([email protected]) FIRE STRIKE 18369P

 

I was expecting a bit more from those extra cores. Mightily close to 7700k benchmarks. Hopefully it just needs a few tweaks.

 

Remember the score is heavily weighted towards the GPU tests.

 

If the pure graphics score have been more normal for the tested model, you would seen a higher total Firestrike score. The 1080 graphics underperform. And yeah, physics doesn’t count much in 3DM Firestrike benchmark tests.
Hope the graphics scores doesn’t suffer due no more unified HS.

 

Makes sense. I totally overlooked the breakdown and forgot that Firestrike is heavily graphics dependent.

 

8700K in clevos are terrible. Cooling is mostly the same as previous generation and they only added another thinner heatpipe to the CPU. So if you thought the 7700K is already to hot, then see 8700K, that thing will thermal throttle to no end.

 

Yet again incorrect info. The main pipes on refreshed P870 Cpu HS is now equal in size. vs what it was before. If you haven't correct info or the mentioned hardware.... Could you please stop post wrong info? Not nice push out incorrect info all over the forum.

Spoiler: P870TM Cpu HS

Edit. And why is barely 60C already to hot for 7700K ? Even OC'd, and not with default clocks. I don't get it Yeah, wrong info posted as always.

 

You'll have greater rewards tweaking this time round as if you get the sweet spot it's going to run like a dream.

 

such a shame they integrated the fan as part of heatsink. once fan dies or got issue gotta buy heatsink, unless you can take the fan portion out and replace it partially. a partial fan part wonder where to buy lol. still better than bga GPU/CPU though. heatsink and fan cost like $100 or less while BGA CPU/GPU cost $300/$1400 each rofl.

 

intel just released 8700k, 7700k was out in jan and intel pulled a paper launch, real launch was like nov 15th so thats around 10.5 months. the soonest intel will do something similar again say icelake 10nm+ 8 core coming in 8 months then paper launch it, 2H2018 literally implies end of 2018 I can almost smell it.

but, i am willing to wait for 1 more year.

- M.2 optane SSDs
- 8 core 10nm+/14nm++ CPU
- possible working with iGPU..
- possible laptop redesign with CPU heatsink cooled by 2 Fans
- larger 2.5", more affordable and available sata SSDs
- samsung znand
- lowered ram pricing
- volta GPU

half of them is gonna hit, cpu/gpu/optane SSDs and larger capacity 2.5" SSDs, rest is good to have but not 100% needed except a larger CPU heatsink cooled by 2 fans.

 

Part of it is optimus gunshyness as there are some who would crucify them on here for even thinking about including it

 

I would say MANY, if not MOST...not just some, power users would simply reject any model with MSHybrid/Optimus. I realize there are a few that think it would be a good idea, however it has been so thrashed by BGA users, ASUS ROG models don't use it, and most LGA users want no part of it.

 

iGPU's are pure GARBAGE!! Ever try to get linux running right with that crap built in?? I would never even consider a machine with that. And neither would most people that could actually afford this sort of equipment.

 

This is the general reaction I am talking about thanks to some of the fervour that originated on forums like these.

You have to sit down with people like this and explain in dedicated mode the IGP is disabled and is like they are now.

But that takes direct interaction and is part of the reason creating zeal at a blanket concept is not usually the best long term.

 

I am speaking from experience, no fervor involved. I had 2 alienware machines with that garbage in it. The issues that it causes are beyond ridiculous. It NEVER worked right under linux and it barely functioned correctly with windows. Its not worth the trouble and it gives no benefits.

 

Yet you had no ability to disable it fully if you wished and for those who do want the battery life it's only a positive.

 

The implementation of Hybrid/Discrete option in my PowerSpec 1710 (PA71HS-G) is just fine, and indeed works. In hybrid mode, I did get 7 hours out of a full battery charge doing work/browsing @ 40% brightness. (The IPS panel is very bright, so 40% is still very usable) If Optimus is a problem with your preferred Linux distro, then all I would need to do is set the PC to Discrete and never change it.

So if I was using the laptop for work, Office, or watching video, and on battery, Hybrid is the best way to go. On my Asus G73JH, for airplane trips, I kept a spare battery in pack, and played Diablo2, since it ran great on PowerSaver mode. On this model, I could do the same thing and get HOURS of playtime.

I could see your argument on systems that cannot disable optimus. My advice is that make sure you use a system that can if it's equiped.

 

I personally would like to see the feature put in as a switchable option, there would need to be a bit of driver finesse with the hardware IDs of the desktop CPU though probably would need Nvidia to join in to ensure no weird driver issues.

 

Historically, it's worked fairly well in Linux, at least in the Ubuntu-based distros (I've tested in Mint and it was fine).

 

I think you may not know, but icelake and onwards mobo will be having ddr5 memory, ddr4 is just on its death bed!

 

DDR5 is more likely going to be closer to 2020, if not that year. Icelake could be released as early as next year.

 

DDR4 is also plenty still for non IGP related uses.

 

Good info in this thread. Although if I may ask, is there plan to get coffee lake on the P950HP6? Worth to wait for that or get it now with Kaby Lake?