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    Clevo D900C to have nVIDIA® GeForce Go 8700M GT 512MB

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by jbizzler, May 12, 2007.

  1. jbizzler

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    benchmark scores we have seen on 8600M were not very impressive... I hope 8700m GT is better than 7950gtx. I think at this point going with 7950gtx might be a good option. good find tho!
     
  3. jbizzler

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    If it doesn't beat 7950GTX, that's completely ridiculous. If it's about the same, but with DX10, I'm down with that.

    G80 is way too big, power consuming, heat producing for a notebook. My guess is there will never be an 8800M. Maybe a 8900M eventually, but not soon.
     
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    yeah I'm thinking about going with 7950gtx for now, and upgrade it in about year or so. 7950gtx is a beast as it is. It seems that 570ru will ship with either 7950gtx or 8700M as well.
     
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    Actually, the proposed Nvidia 8700M is a 256-bit memory interface videocard.... meaning that it is considered high-end.

    the other Nvidia 8600 Go's that you see in notebooks are all 128-bit memory interface... all mid-range at best.

    I bet that the 8700M is a modification of the desktop 8600 Ultra [which is the only 8600 that has 256-bit mem interface], which does perform as well as a 7950GTX.. probably a bit faster AND has DX10 support.

    They [Nvidia] are going in the right direction if this is going to be out by Summer, because the 8800-8900 Go's seem to need a bit more time to be ready for mobile use [hopefully by late-Summer to early-Fall].
     
  6. jbizzler

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    Well, if it's in the D900C, it doesn't really matter how mobile it is. I might be going away to school next fall, and want either this beast or an M570RU, but no one seems to be advertising that at all yet.

    Edit: Where did you get the specs of the 8700M to know it has a 256-bit memory interface?
     
  7. khiev

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    yeah but why is the GeForce Go 8700M in "subtle" font? It suggests to me that it would only be a possibility for now (for the first shipment of the sager 9260). Perhaps it signifies successful testing with the 8700m but that the card will only be included once it is available for mass production.
    If you notice, the specs also show that the d900c might feature a 2.0M (vs. 1.3M) pixel video camera module (also in "subtle" font)
     
  8. Mr. M

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    Taken from the small print at the bottom

    **The specification in gray are not available yet.

    Basically they are saying they will ship the D900C with the 8700M but only when that GPU comes available, same goes for the 2MP camera (will most likely be an extra option when you go to configure). Im thinking that the DX10/8700M/2MP will be called D900D or something along that line when it gets released.

    Speculation FTW...
     
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    lol, you're right, cant believe I missed the small print... good to know though.
     
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    Noticed that for a high end laptop it does not have a Gigabit lan card :(

    It supports "Intel Wireless WiFi 4965AGN", nice.

    Trance
     
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    Clevo has a D901C listed on their site, perhaps that will have the 2MP camera and 8700M?
     
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    Huh??
    Communication 。56K MDC Azalia Modem with V.90 & V.92 compliant
    。Gigabit LAN on board is on the clevo site, and I checked powernotebooks.com too and they say 10/100/1000...

    Maybe you just missed it :)
     
  13. Charles P. Jefferies

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    This is a nice find, thanks for sharing. Assuming that Gophn is right and the 8700M does have a 256-bit memory interface, it should fly.
     
  14. jbizzler

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    Yeah, I knew the gray meant not available yet. Yought that was obvious, though.

    Remember http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3576
    But now the site says 8700M. I think this 8700M GT used to be what they were/are calling the 8800M GS. The drivers say the 8800M GS is a "G84", so maybe they decided it simply didn't fit the 8800 name, and lowered it from 8800M GS to 8700M GT.


    Both pages have identical specs. The only difference is blue and silver AFAIK. But the colors don't really matter since few people buy these direct from Clevo anyway.
    Is that even possible?
     
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    Anyone knows if there will be possible to put the 8700M in a 5760?
    Or is it not compatible with the motherboard, or is it too big?

    Thanks

    P
     
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    Probably not compatible unless they do a new mobo for the 5760 which seems unlikely
     
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    In R&J Tech they are using the micro E6600 for deskop on their D900C clevo laptops, i mean is 1066 fsb, somenthing wrong with that? why doesn't everyone do this?
     
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    Because it's a desktop CPU. It is very hot, power consuming, and loud to cool. Battery-life on the D900C will be extremely short because of it.

    I doubt we'll see 8700M in the 5760, but that's the M570U. Clevo is coming out with the M570RU, basically the same thing only with Santa Rosa and G8M.
     
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    Can't wait to see the M570RU, I think I want one :O

    The D900C is a desktop replacement laptop, which means low battery life and a bulky machine. This one uses a desktop processor and chipset, so battery life will be 1 hour-ish (as well as the LCD, 3 HDD's, optical drive, 2x GPU's, etc...).

    That was a mistake on the rep's part. All we know is that it is an "enthusiast card" which means 8700M+ or bust; still good for some of us though :).
     
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    From the pics I saw, the M570RU looks like a totally different machine than the M570U/5760. If the pics were accurate, Clevo should rename the unit to distinguish it from the older model. Keyboard, case, audio Dj, etc are all totally different between these similarly named models.

    The M570RU looks like a typical gamer's notebook, with faux carbon fiber and orange highlights. Probably appealing to some but not my taste. The M570U has a much more classy, understated appearance and would be perfectly suited for business use during the day and gaming after hours.

    As Clevo's most popular model, it would be great if the M570U is continued with a revision or upgrade path for the 8700M. If that ends up being as fast as the 7950GTX with DX10 compatibility then I would be very happy. Alas since I need to use my notebook for business too, if the M570RU and the D900C are the only platforms to get the 8700M, 8900M or whatever will be "high end" later in the year, I'll have to pass.

    For now I'm going to hang onto my HP dv9000t until I see where Clevo is going with the new chipset and GPU.
     
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    I asked Rock and they said "no".
     
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    According to the author of the article, "NVIDIA shared with us that GeForce 8M based SLI notebooks might take off later this year in July and that more variety of these high-end gaming-class notebooks should prevail than there are available currently. They also put a note that SLI notebooks based on the Intel Napa platform might debut during the Computex 2007 timeframe"

    Wow, computex will be June 5-9, meaning that we could get some really exciting news soon. I really hope that it's a sign that nvidia will release the enthusiast series in the summer as stated on their website.... sheesh, SLI based dx10.... I think it'll be worth the wait :)

    source:
    http://www.hardwarezone.com.au/reviews/view.php?id=2112&cid=3&pg=6
     
  23. Joga

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    That sounds really promising. :) If I can get high-end SLI DX10 in a notebook before college starts up again in the Fall, that would be awesome. :D
     
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    "They also put a note that SLI notebooks based on the Intel Napa platform might debut during the Computex 2007 timeframe"

    An example of that is the new Alienware coming out, m9750. If I could find that from another vendor and it had DX10, then I'd get it because it's more portable than the D900C.
     
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    Does anyone know how much time of high quality gaming will a clevo D900C with a 2.4ghz 1066 fsb core 2 duo and a geforce 7950 gtx would have? i mean in live battery? will it reach 1 hour? there any super battery that i can buy to prolongue its live without plugued in? thanks in advance.
     
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    oh boy, at the maximum setting (brightest resolution), it should be less than 1hour... lol
     
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    I would imagine this is going to be a machine that is like.. :45 - 1:30 depending on usage...

    I'm waiting for these to start shipping so people can have battery life contests =P
     
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    I notice that the CLEVO site has info about the new model D901C. What are the diff between the D901C and D900C?

    since I was almost ready to buy the D900C I am wondering if I shall wait until the D901C comes out and see what happend.
     
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    so actually that means that 8600M GT SLI will be the same as 7950GTX?

    wow :) maybe i should wait a little bit,..
     
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    but you mean SLI against one card? totaly better the single 7950, prefer to change to the 8950M Ultra or GTX when arrives.

    Ask again what is the best batteri o someway that I can make it last more than 1:30 hour? even if I have to travel with a car battery in my back pack :p
     
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    I dont see any mention of 8600M in SLI on the clevo D90xC page. The only mention of SLI is next to the 7950 GTX part. :(
     
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    zodttd, you mean 8700M GT right?
    I'm guessing that since it's up in the air, they're just not saying anything. They only mention oSLI is in reference to ithe 7950GTXs compatibility with Vista, and they only mention XP in contrast to that. Since they don't know the 8700Ms INITIAL driver compatibility, they have no reason to mention it in Vista or contrast it with XP.

    I'm just a guesser.
     
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    Hmm, they seem to have removed mention of the 8700M GT from the D900C/D901C page, interesting...
     
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    indeed, hopefully they'll come up with something good at computex, or at the very least by the end of summer.
     
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    Clevo has slipped before on specifications, looks like they did it again. The last time, they slipped the name of the Go7950GTX.
     
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    argh... they need to anounce the release date for the m570ru..... Did they start to ship 900c???
     
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    They should be shipping the D900C in a week or so.
     
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    where you getting this?

    8600 ultra has only been rumoured hasnt it? though given the gap between the 8800GTS320 and the 8600GTS i would be shocked if there wasnt something like a256bit 64 shader 8600 to fill the void.
     
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    Since no one is buying their laptop from Clevo their website should not be looked to for accurate information.

    As we have said several times before, there is an effort being made by Clevo/Sager to use the 8xxx cards in this model, but as of yet none have been successfully tested.

    Look for it to possibly be available in the future sometime, but not for a while yet. This model will begin shipping with the GeForce Go 7950 GTX with 512MB per card.

    Also, it is unknown at this time whether those that shipped with the 7950 GTX will be able to upgrade to the 8xxx series if they are released in the future...so please do not count on it.
     
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    The Eurocom website used to advertise the D900C would be upgradable to 8xxx0, but have since taken all reference of that down. Either it's not true, or they're simply not supposed to mention unrelease parts.
     
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    If this site's sources are correct we should be seeing the 8700m gt in 3 weeks! I hope this card will fit into the c90 *drool* (not holding my breath though)
     
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    Yeah, my guess is C90 will only have up to 8600M GT. But C80 and C70 should have better capabilities.
     
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    you're drooling over a 400 point increase in 3dmark05? (not even 3dmark06? which is the current standard)

    lol

    also synthetic benchmarks don't hold a candle towards real life benchmarks
     
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    It would be extremely amazingly awesome if the 8700M GT was released in 3 weeks, but somehow I just can't see it happening. More likely, the 8700M GT will be officially announced in 3 weeks, and actually be available in notebooks probably later this summer. But who knows. *crosses fingers*


    That site is saying that once they upgraded the drivers, the 8700M GT increased 400 points (over the old drivers). Basically it's saying that the drivers are currently immature and that performance will increase significantly with new driver releases.
     
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    Kind of an ambiguous statement, and makes me think they do not know what they are talking about.
     
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    It will be the fastest mobile DirectX 10 card to date. The 8600M GT statement sounds about right too, but they say it like it's a fact.
     
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    The tone is what bugs me; they are making it sound better than an 8800Ultra, it sounds like a cheap advertisment.
     
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    I would be confident to say that it should show itself by July's end... maybe early August ;)
     
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