Clevo D901C takes Q9300 processor?

mkay - I have a Q6700 cpu supported by and installed in my Clevo D901C

I also have a Q9330 sitting in my cupboard upstairs and im itching to see what this cpu is like in my Clevo.

However, it requires that I flash the bios to a non clevo bios.

Anyone have any suggestions before I begin my search journey into bios flashing enlightenment?

PS: I have never done it before.

Would appreciate any tips anyone can offer, especially with regard to a Clevo build D901C

Cheers

Newty

 

Don't do it unless you've got a really, and I mean really, high tolerance for risk, and don't have a lot of time left on your warranty, because you're playing with at least two unknowns here - an officially unsupported CPU, and a definitely unsupported BIOS.

 

And besides, the only real advantage I see on the Q9300 is a slightly better FSB. In which I really don't believe woud be worth the risk. I am sure you wouldn't see any actual improvement; The Q6700 is one hell of a processor already!

Q6700 vs. Q9300 and Here<---you may have to click on the "processor numbers" link

 

I'm with Shyster here. Don't do it man! Look at the cost/benefit factor, it just isn't worth it. VERY high risk, not much performance boost even if it does work.

 

I forgot to mention I do a lot of high end audio and it occasionally causes me to get clicks and pops on my audio card.

Games and Graphics work fine. Its just Audio sequencers that have the problems using plugins in realtime.

I have an external audio card - but I get the feeling the CPU cant handle the performance sometimes when everything is running at full pace.

Are my worries rightly aimed at the CPU or should I be looking for something else? I already have 4 gb ram and cant move to vista 64 because most audio progs dont really work well with it.

 

Ok i see - the Q6700 is good, thanks for the tip

The one thing I do wonder, is how come Clevo cannot take the new CPUs but the same laptop at Sager can?

 

I don't see any reason why they unit can't support the q9300. Like you said clevo resellers use the q9300 so there is no reason why a sager unit can't support it. Sager never seems to offer more than 6 cpu's at one time, it probably has more to do with keeping stock than the cpu not being supported. I didn't read who you recieved your unit from, but if it was from a clevo reseller, the cpu should be covered under your warranty. The cpu is probably just as powerfull as the q6700, but the fact that it should run even cooler and you have one just laying around, I see no reason not to use it.

 

I've no beef with experimentation, and lots of (very experienced, knowledgeable) Clevo sellers have, in fact, successfully gone beyond the publicly stated limits of support; however, in this case we seem to be lacking two crucial ingredients - those in the parenthetical - and unless you're willing to pony up and guarantee any remaining warranty the OP has, I'd think long and hard about the risk of losing money I have have spent on a still-valid warranty.

 

Shyster to be frank, your stepping outside you bounds of knowledge on this issue. I mean you don't even own the laptop, your in even less of a position to advise someone on what he can and can't do. The OP at this point just as any one should be aware that any cpu upgrade done by the consumer instead of the manufacture risks voiding the warranty. Salivaxiu tested several cpu's a while ago including the q9300 which worked. http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=238482

We get it already, the warranty will be voided, no point in repeating it again and again in the same thread. Overclocking your cpu, gpu, using components not supported by your reseller voids your warranty WE GET IT.

 

You might have considered the framework within which I couched my post before you shot off at the keyboard - it doesn't take any direct exposure to a particular computer to know that monkeying around in the guts of that computer and making modifications that exceed published guidance from the ODM is not something that should be done without any technical experience, at most it takes analogous experience with opening up and working on the internals of any computer, or other similarly complicated machinery, and that experience I have in spades - fourfold. I have, amongst other things: (i) taught myself how to tear down and rebuild the vaio I have - so far 5 complete teardowns with no screwups, partly because the first time I tried working on the guts of a computer, I tried to do some work on the motherboard of an old _Dell desktop I had and f**ked the motherboard because I wasn't careful enough with anti-static issues; (ii) taught myself how to do a basic rebuild on an engine - did a decent teardown and rebuild on the slant-6, 225 CID, in an old Plymouth I used to have - which was successful, in part, because of an earlier attempt to rebuild an inline Chevy 6 that I f**ked up in a variety of ways; and (iii) any manner of other, mostly smaller, projects that I won't bore everyone else by listing.

While none of those projects had anything to do with a Clevo notebook, they all gave me experience in working on the innards of a complex physical system, and knowledge of the risks and consequences of doing so by yourself without prior experience or training.

Applying the basic human ability to abstract and conceptualize gives me the framework necessary to critique the premises on which the OP's intended project is based, all without ever having had the joy of sticking my fingers into the guts of a Clevo.

As such I have the sort of technical experience necessary to permit me to gauge the reasonableness of someone with no technical experience swapping a CPU out for a CPU that is not within the official guidance released from the ODM that manufactured the system in the first place. In addition, I have observed Clevo and Sager's methodology for long enough now that I also have a sufficient context for understanding that they tend to be quite conservative when it comes to giving guidance about what components are, or are not, supported by a particular system, and thus have the knowledge necessary to evaluate to some degree the extent to which going beyond their public statements should nonetheless have a reasonable chance of success.

None of which has the slightest thing to do with the warranty, which, in my original post, was an after-thought that I threw in, not the core substance thereof.

 

To summarize your unnecessary half a page post, you do not own a d901c nor does it appear you own any sager/clevo model at all. Several people on this forum alone have shown that at sagers own discretion they choose to not offer components in their laptops. That does not mean that the component will not work. It's as simple as that....unless you have some proof that shows why a q9300 would not work there is no reason to run around with your hands in the air and trying to scare people into your line of thinking. Save the fancy jargon for the court room and leave the workings of computers to people who actually own them.

 

With all due respect, save the attitude for someone whom it might actually scare.

EDIT: Upon further reflection, since I've been taken to task for not actually owning the system, allow a modest apologia:

• I called it pretty well on the underlying reason for why some of these systems were emitting BIOS beeps due to full keyboard buffers - namely, that the fact that the fan controls were run through the same IC as the keyboard controller was causing the problem, which was indirectly backed up by the fact that Sager issued a KBC firmware update to solve the problem (that was on a D90x series, before the similar problems with the M570xU series, to which I have also provided pretty good explanations, albeit not good enough to get Callidor's problem fixed, yet); and
• I called it pretty well on the Sli-stutter that the early 8-series versions of the D90x series were suffering from - namely undue DPC latency due, in part, to the pseudo-nature of the quad cores, an explanation that was indirectly borne out when dexgo, a member who no longer posts, OC'd both his Q6600 and his FSB, thereby getting rid of the Sli-stutter; incidentally, this problem is unlikely to reoccur given that the current crop of D901Cs carry both higher clocked CPUs and higher-clocked FSBs.

Not bad for someone who's never even been within spitting distance of a D90xC or an M570xU. And your contribution to these issues was....?

N.B., I don't feel like doing the grunt-work of searching through the dead-threads section, so if you don't believe me, go look for the threads yourself, they're all there in the NBR attic.

 

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@Shyster:Many ppl find your posts informative.So keep doing the good work.I am in full support of you.

@Newty:If you know how to change it go ahead but be careful as Shyster said not to mess up anything.Or ask a friend of urs who knows well about this to do it for you.I am pretty sure it will work well if you don't mess up the installation.

 

The chassis suports the proc with the latest BIOS, but you might lose the warranty if you change the proc.

PL

 

@Shyster1:

I for one don't mind, in fact I rather enjoy having http://www.merriam-webster.com/ open alongside NBR. Lord knows I need it at least once a day reading your posts but then I prefer expanding my vocabulary.

If anyone would like to see the consequence of diminished intelligence, just watch a documentary entitled "Idiocracy". The first 12 minutes are the most informative.

 

Thanks for all your help peeps!

Its v useful to hear the information from both sources so I thank you for giving me your valuable input.

Newty