Clevo EGPU?? N850hk1 with tb3?

At last COMPUTEX2016/CES2017 many egpu are presented by asus, msi, zotac, gigabyte, acer.
do you think that clevo could make an egpu? clevo could make also a lightweight laptop like a clevo n850hk1 with a thunderbolt3 port for egpu as an alternative for users that buy a dell xps 15 or an msi gs63?

 

My p750DM works with the Razer Core over thunderbolt 3.

 

this is good! what gpu do you use inside the razer core? do you have some benchmark?

 

I found this test quite interesting.

 

great video!
with a razer core or akitio node/mantiza saturn is it the same?

 

Every tb3 eGPU will be the same. But also depends on the lanes/CPU and if it's full duplex or not.

 

yes i know about issues with dell xps 9550 for the tb3 pcie x2 at 16g/s but in msi laptops there is a tb3 pcie x4 at 32g/s.

 

Looking at the video posted above by @Meaker@Sager , I would assume so.

 

It's not just the bandwidth, there is extra latency added in with the extra steps to communicate with the GPU.

 

This could be a problem for the use of a gpu nvidia quadro p4000 and a cad3d programs as solidworks, catia or fem as ansys or adams or graphic as photoshop or illustrator? And with cfd software?

 

It all depends on how much of a performance hit you are willing to take.
All GPUs will take a performance hit.

 

i would like a lightweight laptop as a clevo p640 or as clevo n850 easily transportable and then i would like to use the same laptop in the office with an egpu with a gpu nvidia quadro m4000 for my project with solidworks, adams and cfd, no games. a lot of engineers and architects could have the same need. i could consider as acceptable a loss of performance around 15/20%. at the moment i'm considering the msi gs63 7re with a razer core or an akitio node. but i know clevo quality and so I would like a clevo p640/n850 with thunderbolt3+ Clevo EGPU. Any Hope?

 

Saw this post on my tapatalk feed, could you elaborate on the extra latency? I've been toying with the idea of downsizing my setup to a Laptop/eGPU instead of PC/Laptop but apart from a small performance hit, I haven't heard of the extra latency bit before.

 

You have a thunderbolt chip routing the communication and the CPU keeping track of it. That has a latency hit to it.

 

Pity, are there numbers around that measure the latency hit?


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latecy is the same with kaby lake cpu with tb3 native support?

 

It should be the same yes.


If you want true PCIE zero-latency EGPU implementation then look at the Alieware with graphics amplifier. But for maximum performance and least amount of lag I would recommend you use an external monitor.

The Alienware's graphic amplifier does not use TB3, instead if uses PCIe 3.0 x4 lanes with roughly the same bandwidth as TB3.
The advantage is that you get zero lag since there's no need for a thunderbolt chip to communicate with the CPU.

 

thanks! this is a useful information

 

Nope, the only way is to take 16x lanes off the CPU and feed them directly into the GPU like the old MSI dock.

 

msi gus?

 

The original was better (it used a standard SFX PSU and had more space).

I originally put a Titan-X and a custom water cooling loop inside. It did die as the Titan-x PCB was not designed for sustained overclocks (I captured its death on video actually) so the above is retrofitted with an R9 Nano.

I showed Asus how water cooling should be done

 

a clevo version of this is possible?

 

Considering this is the first time you have heard of such a thing you can see how popular it was

As a single GPU the 4870HQ with a Titan-X at 1500mhz core clocks slaughtered anything else mobile wise but people were not so interested in such beastly performance

 

2014 ? did it was sold? what laptops had compatibility? gs60?
http://www.mobilegeeks.com/msi-gs30-shadow-gaming-notebook-dock-hands-video/

 

I really wonder why it didn't get popular.

 

Code 43.
And MSI basically told their customers who had this that they cant do anything.

 

Why?

here a review
http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/msi-gs30-shadow-and-gamingdock-preview/

 

Because those issues didnt show at the time of the reviews. And i personaly know people who have had that reply from MSI. Mainly because its NVIDIA's fault.

 

ok thanks! so any hope to see it again?

 

No idea.

 

benchmark of gs30+docking station with gtx1060
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11823274
benchmark of gs63vr with gtx1060
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11784233

 

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/6543842

Here was my result with the Titan-X.

The CPU is pretty tweaked out for maximum bench marking performance in that run too.

 

do you think that could be possible to use also a gtx1080?

 

Yeah, no reason why not. Even the new Titan-x.

 

i follow an other forum and an user there will try to use a gtx1080 in that docking station and
i'm asking him benchmarks

 

It should work well

 

Et voila!! 16012 with gtx1080
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/18305591

 

what do you think about this?

here a test of gs63vr 7rf with asus xg station2+ gtx1080
https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/nb-shopping/M.1488457488.A.28A.html
here egpu with gtx1080 makes 4883 on fire strike ultra

here a dektop with gtx1080 makes 5143 on fire strike ultra. so 5% of loss

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-review,28.html

 

there will be a clevo New Product Event in may
http://www.clevo.com.tw/group_newsdetail.asp?id=201&lang=en

what do you think about this?

 

here a dutch review of n850hk1
https://tweakers.net/reviews/5229/1...laptop-behuizing-toetsenbord-en-touchpad.html