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    Clevo M57 Sager NP57 Concern

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by prime, Nov 6, 2009.

  1. prime

    prime Notebook Consultant

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    I guess I have been living under a rock, but I just became aware of the Nvidia N8BE controversy.

    I believe Nvidia has said ALL these chips are defective and all these Clevo Sager models come with these.

    Searching this forum I have not got one hit discussing this.

    Anyone got some feedback?
     
  2. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    That's because the M570xU doesn't use mid tier 8-series cards.
     
  3. prime

    prime Notebook Consultant

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    The New M570ru-u says it has a 'NB8E-SE', which is said to be the same chip across the board.

    Can you show me how I can verify what you say?
     
  4. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    Why are we going over this again?

    The old batch of Nvidia 8M series that were bad only consisted of the 8400M and the 8600M GPUs... which were denoted as G84M and G86M.

    NB8E denotes that its a 8800M ... which does NOT have any known issues.

    old news.
     
  5. prime

    prime Notebook Consultant

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    I did a search in this forum and found no threads. If it is old news then just tell me what to search for or point me to a thread or something.

    But just saying it is old news does not help, right?
     
  6. hyperbolic

    hyperbolic Notebook Consultant

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    Preach It! Ain't no crap in my rig!
     
  7. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    I think I made some charts of this topic a while back... it might have been a pic, so searching might come up with nothing.

    but now you know. :)
     
  8. S.SubZero

    S.SubZero Notebook Deity

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    The affected chips are hard to determine at this point due to nVidia of course being conservative on the numbers and everyone that doesn't like nVidia giving very high numbers. nVidia would like us to believe it's a very low number of notebook chips in a relatively thin timeframe, while sites like Inquirer tell us practically every single piece of silicon that has ever come out of nVidia since the dawn of time is hopelessly broken and will absolutely fail.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVIDIA#Defective_mobile_video_adapters

    The answer is somewhere in the middle, and I personally believe it's on the lower end. 8600M GT's made "in some timeframe" are definitely affected. My old Dell's 7900GS Go failed just before this whole story exploded. Was it one of the affected chips, or just a random act of hardware failure? Who knows. An 8800M GTX could fail tomorrow. Absolutely certain it's this exact issue? Of course not. I can tell you my Sager's 8800M GTX I got in March 2008 has been running perfectly and it's been run for many hours at a clip.
     
  9. Cookie

    Cookie Notebook Evangelist

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    Well my 8800M GTX has failed after 1.5 years, so it could make sense.

    My 7900GS also failed after 1.5 year (Old dell Inspiron)

    This is bull. nVidia sucks. Buying ATi next time.
     
  10. theriko

    theriko Ronin

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    My 8800M GTX bought in Jan 2008 is still running perfectly as well.
     
  11. hyperbolic

    hyperbolic Notebook Consultant

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    Such a terrible thought, I cherish every moment with my baby. I bought a brand new Compaq Presario w/ Athlon 900mhz back in 2001, HDD failed after six months.