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    Clevo M570TU

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by CarlL, Mar 31, 2008.

  1. CarlL

    CarlL Notebook Enthusiast

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    I am considering buying a Sager 5793/Clevo M570RU. Then I noticed that Clevo showed a new M570TU at CEBIT earlier this month. Can anyone tell me if this is a minor upgrade, or is this a Centrino 2 (Montevino) laptop. I understand that the Centrino 2 chips are already in production and that the release is tentatively scheduled for June of this year.

    As a newbie, I am concerned about buying a laptop that might be replaced with a major upgrade in only 3 months or so. I also like the HDMI port and especially the eSata port on the 571TU. The laptop is not for gaming, but rather heavy Photoshop and Sony Vegas use.

    Thanks
     
    CarlL, Mar 31, 2008
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  2. Justin@XoticPC

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    Montevina along with the added E-Sata and HDMI ports at this point are the main differences. :)
     
    Justin@XoticPC, Mar 31, 2008
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    and perhaps 9xxx GTX support but we won't go there yet.
     
    auburncoast, Mar 31, 2008
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    Hey Justin, could you guess if there will be an upgrade program for the RU users to the TU ? I`d love to have e-sata and hdmi...
     
    eleron911, Mar 31, 2008
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  5. Justin@XoticPC

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    Hey eleron, sorry Sager hasn't released any information on it yet. It is hard to say what they will do with this. I will put a bug in Sager's ear and ask them for a update as soon as they can. :)
     
    Justin@XoticPC, Mar 31, 2008
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  6. eleron911

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    Maybe even suggest an upgrade program :D
    A little [​IMG] has told me the TU will be better than the RU so I`m rushing to get that one :D
     
    eleron911, Mar 31, 2008
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  7. auburncoast

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    hey eleron i liked your other avatar better
     
    auburncoast, Mar 31, 2008
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    Bump for any updates. Hook us up, Justin. I'm a mere few weeks from pulling the trigger on one of these bad boys. Is the Montevina chipset supposed to provide any improvements from a heat standpoint?
     
    Rich.Carpenter, May 12, 2008
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  9. Deathwinger

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    Video editor here too Carl. From what I understand, the Montevina chip is supposed to handle HD viewing and editing as if it were SD, translation, this is the chipset for us.
     
    Deathwinger, May 12, 2008
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  10. eleron911

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    There should be an official thread about it, but since it`s basically a M570RU++ , then you probably won`t get to see it.
    I`m still hoping Sager will provide an upgrade program.
     
    eleron911, May 13, 2008
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  11. smood

    smood Notebook Evangelist

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    I really want HDMI! Thats the one thing I was missing when considering the RU... hopefully the price difference is minimal!
     
    smood, May 19, 2008
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  12. Gophn

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    I hope you realize that you can just get a cheap DVI-to-HDMI adapter.

    My notebook (that over 2 years old now) has DVI, I carry around two adapter for it:

    DVI-VGA adapter
    [​IMG]

    DVI-HDMI adapter
    [​IMG]


    With these two adapters, I can connect to almost every digital display with my notebook
    - DVI
    - VGA
    - HDMI

    And it has come in handy for presentations and gaming on a friend's HDTV.
     
    Gophn, May 19, 2008
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  13. sohail99

    sohail99 Notebook Consultant

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    is there any quality loss if any, while using this adapter??

    Cause i'm really considering buying one of em!! :)
     
    sohail99, May 19, 2008
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  14. Gophn

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    no loss at all.... HDMI is pretty much the same technology as DVI.
    .. HDMI just has audio streamed with it, while DVI does not.

    Its still Digital to Digital. :)

    While DVI-VGA is digital to analog.
     
    Gophn, May 19, 2008
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  15. eleron911

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    Yea, but HDMI is easier, carrying around RCA cables and adapters is a pain in the neck :)
     
    eleron911, May 19, 2008
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  16. Gophn

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    I just carry around 3 cables:
    - VGA to VGA
    - DVI to DVI
    - HDMI to HDMI

    its not that bulk since I have a backpack.

    and the 3 adapters are small, so they dont matter
     
    Gophn, May 19, 2008
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  17. eleron911

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    Adapters,wires, it`s annoying either way. Especially when you also have a mouse, a headset and the (HDMi,DVI or VGA) cable ...
    Plus , adapters are rather small, they get misplaced easily...
     
    eleron911, May 19, 2008
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  18. Gophn

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    I am kind of a neat-freak.

    So I have a good organization of everything in my notebook backpack.

    I even have a wrist gel pad for mouse usage in my back pack.

    Works out well. :)
     
    Gophn, May 19, 2008
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  19. sohail99

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    Thanks Gophn!! :)

    btw how's DVI to HDMI cable(without the adapter)
    nd DVI to VGA cable??

    I guess it'll solve the hassles of an adapter! but are they good?
     
    sohail99, May 19, 2008
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  20. Gophn

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    the DVI-HDMI cable is the same thing... works fine, I have used it on my system.

    Its a bit more convenient without having to pull out an adapter I guess. :)

    But buying an adapter and a normal HDMI cable is cheaper.
     
    Gophn, May 19, 2008
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  21. sohail99

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    Thanks man! Rep+ :) :D
     
    sohail99, May 19, 2008
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  22. smood

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    Hold on but Gophn as you mentioned the HDMI also carries the audio signal. So if you use HDMI to DVI adapter to connect ur pc to a HDTV do you get any sound through the TV speakers?
     
    smood, May 19, 2008
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  23. eleron911

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    No, he still uses a regular cable for that.
     
    eleron911, May 19, 2008
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  24. Gophn

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    The DVI to HDMI adapter/cable will only carry the digital video signal.

    So you would have to use separate audio cables if you want to transfer over audio to another source... the TV itself, receiver, etc..

    I always carry these basic audio cables with me:
    - 3.5mm stereo to two channel RCA cable (for 2 channel sound)
    - 3.5mm mono to single RCA adapter & single RCA cable (for 6 to 8 channel sound)... SPDIF out on the notebook

    All of these are quite inexpensive.
     
    Gophn, May 19, 2008
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  25. eleron911

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    Sounds to me you have a ton of adapters and cables for what a simple port and 1 cable could do. :)
     
    eleron911, May 19, 2008
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  26. bigjohnsonforever

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    [​IMG]
    forgive me... I just had to...
     
    bigjohnsonforever, May 19, 2008
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  27. eleron911

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    Dude, seriousely :)

    Clevo is smart enough to know WHY PEOPLE NEED HDMI, that`s why they upgraded the RU to the TU.
     
    eleron911, May 19, 2008
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  28. bigjohnsonforever

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    I have a feeling though, that they won't give us RU users a simple HDMI upgrade, short of a mobo swap because of the added audio business... I have a feeling that the TU is going to have a drastically different mobo.
     
    bigjohnsonforever, May 19, 2008
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  29. eleron911

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    Justin already said it`s the same thing with added e-Sata and HDMI port.
    Supporting Montevina maybe? :)
     
    eleron911, May 19, 2008
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  30. Gophn

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    the problem (if you can call it that) is that the RU and the TU will have slightly different chassis.. let alone the motherboards....

    ... because of the ports.

    the RU does not have the HDMI and eSATA ports on the chassis, so even getting a new motherboard will not help much (without the ports on the chassis to use) other than getting the Montevina platform.

    I guess one can mod a RU chassis with the ports and upgrade the motherboard... but thats a lot of work.
     
    Gophn, May 19, 2008
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  31. eleron911

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    There goes my plan to get this mobo :)
     
    eleron911, May 19, 2008
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  32. bigjohnsonforever

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    Montevina AND "next gen video card"
     
    bigjohnsonforever, May 19, 2008
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    The 901C is too big and too thick. The 570RU, on the other hand, only has a single HD and single GPU. I just wish that Clevo would offer something in between with dual HD's, dual GPU's in SLI. Wouldn't be sweet? Montevina, HDMI, eSATA, Blu Ray, dual HD's, dual 8800GTX (or better) in SLI.
     
    dit_xi, May 19, 2008
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  34. Gophn

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    There already those mobile Core 2 w/ SLI notebooks available.

    Clevo wants to have a different niche.
     
    Gophn, May 19, 2008
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  35. Rich.Carpenter

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    I tend to agree with dit_xi. I'd like to see more notebooks offered that support multiple hard drives. I don't need SLI, but an extra HDD I do. As it stands, that and the integrated eSATA port are the only features causing me to consider the Gateway 6860 FX over the 570RU (well, the price difference is a factor as well).
     
    Rich.Carpenter, May 19, 2008
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  36. eleron911

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    A second hdd would make it thicker...
    Since I don`t think a smartbay 2nd drive is any good, since it cannot benefit from RAID.
    However, a smartbay battery would definitely be a cherry on the top.
     
    eleron911, May 20, 2008
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    eleron m9750 was abled to fit in dual GPU + dual HDD with smaller dimensions.
     
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  38. Bledadeva

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    Definitely waiting for the M570TU, I need eSata for my externals (for college). Justin, will you update us on a release date (when you are notified) asap? Thanks.
     
    Bledadeva, May 20, 2008
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    you can also get expresscard to esata adapters...just so you know
     
    theriko, May 20, 2008
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    If you look at the pictures of the TU, you can see that only the HDMI port will be a "problem" for the chassis. The e-sata is replacing the top one of the 2 USB ports on the back.

    However, you can't yet know how the internal spacings and screwhole placing is in the new TU chassis, so we'll just have to wait and see.
     
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  41. Gophn

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    I would recommend for M570RU owners that want HDMI and eSATA to get:
    - DVI to HDMI adapter (under $5)
    - ExpressCard with eSATA (about $30)

    There you have it, the external features of the new TU for under $40. :D
     
    Gophn, May 20, 2008
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  42. eleron911

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    That`s true , Gophn, but the whole reason for having a laptop is to minimise the # of cables, adapters and all that to gain portability and mobility.
    Besides ,isn`t the TU the one supporting new-gen CPUs and the 9th series? :) You can`t 'adapt' that :)
     
    eleron911, May 20, 2008
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    I don't want my laptop to look like frankenstein.
     
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  44. Gophn

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    you only have to use the adapter/expansion when its needed... which might not be often at all...

    only for those that will use those features all the time (which I doubt) will want to have the expresscard and HDMI adapter on all the time.
     
    Gophn, May 20, 2008
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    I'd rather wait a month to have it on the chasis.


    When does everyone think/know (estimated time) when the new rev. will be out to sell on sager or xotic resellers sites?
     
    Bledadeva, May 20, 2008
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    After Intel launches Montevina... so late June at the earliest.
     
    Gophn, May 20, 2008
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    Would it be immidiately after or do they have to bring the chipset to the blueprints to be manufactured.
     
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    We`re not manufacturers to know, but the best guess it that once Montevina is launched, in about 1 week you can see them being shipped.
    @Gophn , you are really set to minimising the TU`s advantages over the Ru :D
     
    eleron911, May 20, 2008
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  49. Gophn

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    I am not minimizing any model really.

    I like to find alternatives for those that cannot afford to buy another system... like myself. :)
     
    Gophn, May 20, 2008
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    Quick question, what is everyone's best guess regarding how much more the Montevina chipset will add to the cost of, say, today's 570RU models? I know the DDR3 is going to be more expensive, and I'd hate to be waiting around for the TU, only to find that I can't afford it, anyway.

    By the way, for those who really want an integrated HDMI and eSATA, the Gateway P-6860 FX has both, *plus* support for multiple HDD's and all at a fantastic price point. I'm really considering it.
     
    Rich.Carpenter, May 20, 2008
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