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    Clevo M570TU to Mobility radeon HD 4870 upgrade problem... need help in solving issue!

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by zeera, Apr 12, 2012.

  1. zeera

    zeera Notebook Consultant

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    Recently I have buyed mobility radeon 4870 (from asus w90) for my Clevo M570TU. Card looks like this : [​IMG]
    But I face some problems with it. Seller told it is laptops Bios problem and it can be patched somehow.
    The issue looks so:
    When I start laptop, Windows is launching,there is a picture on the screen and everything seems to be OK, but some seconds pass and CapsLock NumLK and ScrLk start blinking and laptop shuts down. The same thing happens even when I enter Bios, after 15-20 second it starts to beep and shuts down. Looks like laptop doesn't know that video card is installed, Because the same thing happens when I launch a laptop without any graphics card. Also it's not recognised in Bios as a VGA card, only writes its bios version "5557" which is wrong.
    Can this be solved somehow?
     
    zeera, Apr 12, 2012
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  2. zeera

    zeera Notebook Consultant

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    bump.... any suggestions?
     
    zeera, Apr 13, 2012
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  3. zeera

    zeera Notebook Consultant

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    still looking for some help...
     
    zeera, Apr 15, 2012
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  4. Saltius

    Saltius Notebook Evangelist

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    May some chips/components on the back get overheated?
     
    Saltius, Apr 15, 2012
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  5. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    I would suggest to flash the card with a Clevo version radeon 4870 bios.
     
    Prema, Apr 15, 2012
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    IT might work with an external monitor. But the problem is the vBIOS.
    So far not one reseller has helped us with a proper 4870M Bios. There are Clevo 4870M drivers though.
     
    Blacky, Apr 15, 2012
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  7. zeera

    zeera Notebook Consultant

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    I can try. But where to get that BIOS?
    Also I will have to take the card to service centre to be flashed, do not think I can flash the card within 20 seconds until laptop shuts down :)
     
    zeera, Apr 15, 2012
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  8. zeera

    zeera Notebook Consultant

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    In OCZ whitebook Arima w840di this card works, don't think there are problems with overheating in my clevo M570tu
     
    zeera, Apr 15, 2012
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    No, it's just the vBIOS. There was someone on this forum who tested a 4850M in the M570TU and managed to get it to work.

    Use the search function.
     
    Blacky, Apr 15, 2012
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    zeera Notebook Consultant

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    Tried to find something about it, but no luck :(
     
    zeera, Apr 15, 2012
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    hizzaah Notebook Virtuoso

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    Everyone knows the search function of NBR doesn't work.. Better off using google ;)
     
    hizzaah, Apr 15, 2012
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  12. zeera

    zeera Notebook Consultant

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    The same thing with google.
     
    zeera, Apr 15, 2012
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    Its definitely a BIOS problem, just like the m570ru doesn't support the gtx 280m fully and the w870cu doesn't support the gt 240m or many other non standard MXM cards.

    There is no such Clevo 4870 vBIOS. There is an Alienware vBIOS which may or may not work, there is also an MSI vBIOS for the 4850m here:
    Download br32415.001.rar for free on uploading.com

    But I do not advise that.

    Have you sent a PM to .Netroller3d?
     
    niffcreature, Apr 15, 2012
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  14. zeera

    zeera Notebook Consultant

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    Maybe I will try those bioses.
    Yes, I have contacted him, but looks like he can't help me. I have discribed him the problem and hi answered: "Sounds like the BIOS is using a whitelist of allowed MXM cards. Whitelisting and blacklisting are not standardized MXM behaviors (in fact, both are explicitly forbidden in the MXM specification), and I have no experience with whitelist removal. It is definitely not an MXM structure issue, especially since I've yet to see *any* ATI/AMD card that even detects the presence of an MXM structure. ATI/AMD cards are basically proprietary, model-specific graphics cards on an MXM-sized PCB."
     
    zeera, Apr 16, 2012
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  15. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    PM me your bios...I may be able to take a look once I find a moment. ;)
     
    Prema, Apr 16, 2012
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  16. zeera

    zeera Notebook Consultant

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    Here it is: BIOS_19.rar
     
    zeera, Apr 16, 2012
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  17. moral hazard

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    @ zeera I double checked my voltage.

    Core voltage while in bios = 1.146V
    Mem voltage whilte in bios = 1.86V

    Also my 4870 came with a small metal thing on the back that was meant to cool a few components, did yours have that?
     
    moral hazard, Apr 16, 2012
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  18. zeera

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    zeera Notebook Consultant

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    No such thing. How it looks like?
     
    zeera, Apr 16, 2012
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  20. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    It's a small metal square with a thermal pad on one side. It's stuck to some power components on the back of the card.

    Looks like it's not a stock item.
     
    moral hazard, Apr 16, 2012
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  21. zeera

    zeera Notebook Consultant

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    Can you show where it is?
     
    zeera, Apr 16, 2012
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    Sorry, I was thinking of sending you something like that but I didn't have time. Its in the top left corner of the card while the card is flipped over and the pins are closest to you. You have to be careful not to short 2 resistors that are on either side of like 8 black things which are what heat up.

    These cards include a really thick backplate which I would have sent you but it simply wont fit in any laptop except the w90 I'm guessing.

    On the m570tu you already have a copper backplate so you can just scratch off some of the tape and use a thermal pad.
     
    niffcreature, Apr 16, 2012
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  23. moral hazard

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    Niff are you able to take a photo of the backplate and is it available for sale?
    I would like one if I can get it to fit and if it cools the ram on the back.

    Zeera I'll take a photo of my card later on tonight.
     
    moral hazard, Apr 17, 2012
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  24. zeera

    zeera Notebook Consultant

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    I did so :)
     
    zeera, Apr 17, 2012
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  26. zeera

    zeera Notebook Consultant

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    still looking for some help
     
    zeera, Apr 25, 2012
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    also interested in this too
     
    Sparacis, Apr 25, 2012
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    Found here few bioses for Alienware 1GB cards.
     

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    Can you blind dump your original video bios and upload here?
     
    eugene2878, May 8, 2012
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  30. zeera

    zeera Notebook Consultant

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    Here it is:
     

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    How is it supposed to be a BIOS problem if computer posts and starts to load windows...
    So any updates to the story?
     
    Nightrunner, Jul 15, 2012
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    Nightrunner, Jul 15, 2012
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