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    Clevo M570U (Sager 5720 Dual Core) US Pre-order now available!

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Kilim, May 3, 2006.

  1. Kilim

    Kilim Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    As some of us are excited with the upcoming release of the M570U (Sager 5720 Dual Core), I found a M570U Pre-order for ths US!

    1st one I have found is from ISTNC.com.

    This si what it states in there website about the M570U:
    Here is a link to the ISTNC.com Clevo M570U Preorder

    Unfortunately I talked to somone at Sager and they have no info on when they will have the M570U :(
    I really wanted to order from PCT also which sucks but I may have to order from ISTNC if they will have it 1st.
     
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    Reize Notebook Virtuoso

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    Nice, but I don't think you did the Hyperlinking correctly.
     
  3. Kilim

    Kilim Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    Fixed!
    Sorry I was just excited lol.

    Also, I am in IM w/ ISTNC now an they say that an Accidental Warranty should be up in a week as well :D

    I need that Accidental Warranty cuz I have a 3 yr old at home :(

    And pretty much the 1st week of June is a more safe time for the systems to be in.


    PS:

    Just got note that RAM used for the M570U from ISTNC will be either Samung or Infineon ONLY!
     
  4. Kilim

    Kilim Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    SO I was playing around with the configs cuz I am excited about this lol.
    Probably won't order though until teh Accidental Warranty option goes live next week so.

    My M570U Config plan:


    Base: - Clevo M570U 17" WUXGA (1920 x 1200)= $1600
    Processor: - Intel® Core Duo Processor T2500 2.0Ghz 2mb Cache = $432
    Hard Drive - SATA: - Seagate 100GB 7200RPM = $200
    Video Adapter: - 256MB DDR3 Nvidia GeForce GO 7900GTX = $0
    Memory: - 2GB 667MHz DDR2 (2 x 1gb) - INF #1 Rank = $238
    Optical Drive: - DVDRW = $0
    Wireless Network Card: - Intel® PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (Tri-mode 802.11a/b/g) = $40
    Battery: - Smart Li-ion Battery 8 Cell 3.0 - 6.5 hours (Included) = $0
    Gigabit LAN: - Built In 10/100/1000 BaseT Ethernet LAN = $0
    IEEE 1394/Modem: - Built In IEEE-1394 (Firewire) and 56K V.90 Fax/Modem = $0
    Carrying Case: - Deluxe Carrying Case (included) = $0
    AC Adapter: - Auto Switch 110/220V AC Adapter (included) = $0
    Bluetooth: - *****Internal Bluetooth Module = $75
    Warranty: - 2 Year Upgrade (3 year total) = $240

    TOTAL = $2,825​

    Will also buy this as my backpack for it:
    Kensington Contour
     
  5. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    Nice, they finally got it up. I expect Sager to have it up soon as well, perhaps in a week or so.

    I wouldn't go any higher than the T2500 processor, even that you are paying a premium for. The T2600 is plain ridiculous. You could probably step that down to a T2400 if you want to save a bit of money.

    2GB of RAM is a bit expensive, check newegg - you should be able to get it for less than $200. The hard drive is reasonable though, 100GB 7200RPM is as fast as it gets.
    Warranty price isn't bad, but I'd classify $240 as a bit on the high side. Then again, it's worth it to protect your investment.

    Chaz
     
  6. Kilim

    Kilim Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    Ya I tought about that too.
    for the same price I can get 2GB of Crucial RAm actually.

    Chaz, if you was the one buying the laptop ... which of teh following RAM woukld you suggest?
    2x1GB PC2 5300 RAM = $149-239 for 2GB
    1gb PC2 5300 RAM = $165.98-179.98 for 2GB
    Is this even an option?
    1gb PC5400 = $164 for 2GB

    I was actually Googling Infineon RAM and I can't find this specific RAM anywhere :(
     
  7. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    Probably won't make a big difference whether you go with DDR2-533 or DDR2-667, but since the system can take it I would go with the 667MHz RAM. Out of those, I would take the CORSAIR ValueSelect. Corsair makes reliable and good quality RAM. My second choice would be Transcend.
     
  8. Elminst

    Elminst Some Network Guy

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    It's odd that they list the x1800XT option as "currently not available" when it was the original video card slated to go in that machine... what's up with that?
    DVDRW standard, no dvd-cdrw option.
    And the screen is WUXGA (1920 x 1200), only. no wsxga option...

    Also worth noting is that istnc is offering a instant $100 rebate on the 5720 model, complete systems.
     
  9. lexicon923

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    So Kilim, are you going to wait to buy it from Powernote books or are you just going to by it from this website?


    I am also wondering , should i wait for the wsxga option or is the WUXGA worth buying right now? I heard the WSXGA was better and cheaper.... need some advice...
     
  10. Elminst

    Elminst Some Network Guy

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    wuxga is 1920x1200 resolution
    wsxga is 1680x1050 i think.

    the higher res means everything is smaller, and some people have noted that it makes text really hard to read or is hard on the eyes.
    Also, most games don't support that high of a widescreen resolution. so you have to play the games in a non-native res, which degrades the picture somewhat. Whereas you can play them at 1680x1050 as a native and everything looks good.
     
  11. DrSNAFU

    DrSNAFU Notebook Consultant

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    I really want the ability to get the WSXGA instead of the WU. I'll wait...
     
  12. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    I used the new Dell XPS M1710 with a WUXGA (1920x1200) display for a while - that was the first time I used a screen with a resolution that high on a notebook. I'm coming off of a 15.4" WSXGA+ display (1680x1050) - I thought the text on my notebook's display was about the same size as on the Dell. What was nice was that the screen real estate was much larger.

    If you have seen a 15.4" WSXGA+, then you should be fine with a 17" WUXGA.

    There's more games than you think that support WUXGA - on a Go7900GTX, you can play a lot of games at that resolution, and I must say that it is spectacular. :)

    Chaz
     
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    Perhaps this has been answered before, but has there been any official word on the availablity, or lack thereof, of the 512 MB version of the 7900GTX? Is that an option that other resellers might take advantage of, or do you all think the 256 will stay standard across the board for the 570U? I know the difference is marginal at best, but if I'm spending $2000, might as well go for the best, especially if we plan to run at WUXGA type resolutions.. :)
     
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    I don't think I've seen any mobile vid cards with 512M Ram even announced... Yet.
    I'm sure they're coming, but who knows when.
     
  15. Charles P. Jefferies

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    The Dell XPS M1710 has a 512MB dedicated Go7900GTX. Right now, the M570U looks like it will have the 256MB version, and that is by no means a slouch. There won't be any problems with a 256MB card these days. 512MB is nice if you like to play at ultra high resolutions, but even with a 256MB there shouldn't be a problem.

    Chaz
     
  16. Kilim

    Kilim Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    Considering that ISTNC is ONLY offering a Preorder and they DO NOT expect to have them available until around the 3rd of May - 1st week of June ... I think I may hold off on the purchase until I can see what PCTorque.com or Discountlaptops.com will offer.
    I am hoping that they will have the 570U available for them as PCT and DL is my top 2 choices of buying a laptop from at this time for personal reasons.
    But I think the latest I will wait is the end of May as I really want a laptop ASAP.

    NOTE:
    Sager & PCTorque sales reps has stated on the phone that they ahve NO ETA yet for the 570U.
    A few weeks ago ISTNC, Powernotebooks & Discountlaptops stated to me that they expect the M570U around mid-May - June.
    At this tim ISTNC is the 1st US Reseller to state any ETA about the M570U officially.
    ISTNC deals directly with Clevo and is probably why they got any info about it 1st.
    (No need to deal with a middle man)
    PCT, PN, & DL gets there Clevo's from Sager AFAIK and is probably why they currently do not have an an official ETA yet.
    (They have to wait for Sager to get the laptop from Clevo 1st)
    I do think all the noted resellers I just stated should have the M570U no later than June though.​

    As for the WSXGA vs WUXGA:
    I was actually preferring the WSXGA vs the WUXGA due to what I "heard" is that it take a less of a hit in performance.
    But have to realize that with the laptop you will be getting, the performance hit is "probably" marginal.

    ISTNC statd they are at 1st getting a bath of WUXGA as those resolutions are th biggest sellers for them.
    they "may" get the WSXGA resolution not so far down teh road.
    PCT, PN & DL has been known to offer both resolutions to their customers so I do not see why they will not have that option once they recieve their m570U batches.

    As for the 256mb vs 512mb:
    A while ago someone posted a link about how the 7800GTX 256mb vs 7800GTX 512mb compared.
    From what I remember it was only around a 10-20% performance increase for having tthe 7800GTX 512mb vs teh 256mb version.
    (I think It is more close to 13-17% increase but I don't have the links at thsi time to be sure)
    I would guess that the 7900GTX 256mb vs 7900GTX 512mb ould have similar results.

    So is 10-20% performance increase really worth it for teh cost once it does become available?


    PS:
    I am NOT affiliated nor work for ANY Reseller company.
    I am just an over excited consumer awaiting for his VERY 1st laptop to be bought and delivered.
    I just over did my HW and posting everything I have found out for those that are excited like me :D
     
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    My preorder is placed, now the big wait. ISTNC was only able to buy 20 from Clevo, and at the time I placed my order (yrsterday morning shortly after the pre-order form went live) there was only a few not yet spoken for. I wonder how many came just a little too late and will have to wait for the second batch, or for Sager to carry them. Needless to say, I can't wait.
     
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    I'm not too gaga for real estate myself. Heck, on my desktop I still use 1152x864 for my standard resolution. I'm just now switching my games to use 1280x960 resolutions. I've always been behind the times in that respect.

    Plus I still play some older games that dont support the WUXGA resolutions, so I'd still much rather go with WSXGA, I think its more than enough for my needs.

    (For referance, this would be the first and only lap top i've ever had experiance with using. Normally I use a desktop of 1152x864 on my 19" CRT. So how would the two choices compare with that?)
     
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    ahh.. someone else who runs 1152.. :) That's what I run on my 17in.

    Well, you'd be going to a slightly smaller screen with a higher resolution, so everything will definitely be smaller. Not sure how much though.
    Maybe go to your local bestbuy/compusa/whatever with a ruler and look at resolutions on the display laptops and compare sizes of text and icons to your home CRT.
     
  21. Kilim

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    I have been running on 1024x768 for years on my Home PC and just at 1280x1024 on my 17" Work PC just last year.
    Last week I bought a Viewsonic 19" 1440x900 resolution LCD Monitor.
    I must say, that by itself is already HUGE on me.
    I cannot find ANY 17" laptops near me that has a WSXGA or even a WUXGA resolution.
    All of them have a max of 1440x900 reso when I checked them out.

    I can only compare to other 17" 1440x900 laptops that it must be even bigger real estate of a screen for WSXGA and specially the WUXGA for me.

    Considering I am VERY happy with my 19" 1440x900 resolution LCD Monitor and actually happy with the 1440x900 17" laptops that I have seen, I have a feeling I will be happy with the WSXGA.
    I think WUXGA may just be a tad overkill for me as the 1440x900 is already big for me lol.

    Guess more of a reason for me to wait for PCT and DL to get their stocks of M570U.
    As I probably am more inclined to get the WSXGA vs WUXGA.
    I already waited this long for the M570U release.
    A couple more weeks shouln't hurt ... that much ...
     
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    What does wsxga is 1680x1050 in 17" lcd compare with??

    Is it any close to a 1024x768 in a 15" (the one i use) ??

    thx
     
  23. Charles P. Jefferies

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    If you have seen a desktop SXGA 1280x1024 montior, WSXGA+ 1680x1050 is basically a stretched version of that. It's a lot of real estate, much higher than XGA. I would try to see such a display in person if possible before you buy.

    Chaz
     
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    I had a 1024x768 15" CRT Monitor for over 5 years before I got my 19" 1440x900 LCD Monitor.
    I have noticed that most retail stores (ie: BestBuy, CircuitCity, CompUsa) have laptops that has a max of 1440x900 resolution.

    I am telling you right now that coming from a 15" 1024x768 CRT and viewing a 17" 1440x900 LCD Laptop is amazing!
    I can only imagine that the WSXGA+ 1680x1050 will be a bit more screen real estate than the 1440x900 17" laptops you will find common on laptops sold in stores.

    But ya, I agree w/ Chaz and check out the laptops near you.
    I know for me I am actually happy with just a 1440x900 reso on a 19" or 17" LCD Monitor.
    WSXGA+ should be a tad better IMHO.
    Like I said, have not yet seen a 17" WUXGA+ so so not sure if its better than the WSXGA+.
     
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    I'm new here (found the site while looking up the Clevo M570U), and I'm in the same boat as Killim... Can't wait to buy this, (WSXGA+ version) for my first laptop!
     
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    I got an email from Hypersonic (they offer the 5720 too), and they told me that they haven't been pleased enough from their testing with the Core Duo to offer them yet. I bet they're really just wanting to hold out until the Core 2 Duo's arrive. I really don't need a laptop until this fall when I head off to college anyways. I can probably stand to wait a few months...:decision:
     
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    PCT just announced the Sager 5760 (aka Clevo 570U!)
    Pre-orders should begin soemtime next week!
    ETA on shipment is unknown at this time but I am giving it a guess of end of May- 1st week of June just like all teh other resellers.

    HOORAY!
     
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    DiscountLaptops.com has the 5760 pre-order available. You can choose the WSXGA+ option. It's definitely the better screen for gaming. The 7900GTX is the 256MB version with the 512MB on the way. Also, it looks like the 5720 is upgradeable to the 7900GTX. It requires a new motherboard. I wonder if that means the CPU can be upgraded, as well?
     
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    That probably means you need the M570U motherboard, which automatically means a CPU upgrade because the Pentium M's aren't socket-compatible with the Duo.

    Good to see you Jack. :)

    Chaz
     
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    Hello Jack !

    At this point Clevo/Sager have not tested the new GeForce GO 7900 GTX in the NP5720, but it is on their "to do" list. It has to be tested, but there is a good possibility that it will work without changing the motherboard. Both the NP5720 and NP5760 are using MXM video cards, so they can indeed be physically upgraded. The only issue is giving them enough time to test.

    We have made that request, and Sager will alert us just as soon as the testing is complete.

    However if one wants to upgrade the motherboard, then both the GeForce GO 7900 GTX and the Intel® Core™ Duo Processor will be available, but an NP5720 user would have to pay for both the motherboard and processor upgrade...and then throw away their old ones. This doesn't really make economical sense. The better way would be to either upgrade to the GeForce GO 7900 GTX if the testing proves that it will work, or just sell your NP5720 and buy a new NP5760...you will be money ahead.

    If the GeForce GO 7900 GTX works, upgrading the video card alone makes the most sense. As you know gaming is more GPU intense than it is CPU intense.

    Oh, and all of the Sager resellers should have the new NP5760 available now for Pre-order, with a $100 promotional discount for all Pre-orders placed by 5-31-06. This is a Sager sponsored Instant Rebate, so all Sager resellers should be offering it.
     
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    Hey guys! Been busy traveling for work, so I don't have much time to drop in here. Sometimes, real life is a real pain! :p

    I'm debating whether to upgrade my 5720 to the 7900GTX, if it does indeed prove possible, or try to sell it and invest in an SFF w/7900GTX, like the Hornet Pro. I'll probably do the latter once the Asus V6j is available later this month. I'm in Vegas for one more night using a Dell Latitude D800 from work. I figured I'd catch up on some NBF posting before heading down to the casino. Maybe I can win enough in blackjack to pay for all my upcoming PC purchases!
     
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    Jack, don't hit on 19
     
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    Oh, and Jack, we have the V6J in stock and ready to ship daily.
     
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    Two nights ago, my drunk friend hit on 20... and drew an ACE!!! The whole table died laughing. I see that you've got the V6J on your site, Paladin. Are they in-stock now? I thought they were a few weeks away.
     
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    Hey Paladin. I'm trying to decide whether to get the 2g of ram WITH the notebook, or buy it seporate from Newegg. Buying newegg was cheeper, but now it seems I could get the 2 gig with your PowerNotebooks for something like 10 bucks cheaper.

    The question is, what brand of ram do you use in your 5760 notebook, and how is it in quality compared to Patriot and Corsair?

    (Deals I'm looking at now are http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820220078 and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145012 )
     
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    The answer is simple. Get it from Sager and you only have one place to go for support and warranty.

    Any difference in price is insignificant...shoot, you will blow that much money any Friday night of the month.
     
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    Your drunk friend must have been drunk! :p

    Yes, they are in stock as of close of business today. Where are you going to be on Tuesday?
     
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    I actually tought about that and it makes sense.
    with such an expensive investment why not.
    I already priced it and you really only save around $50-100 bucks buying other parts from other places for cheaper.
    The part that you tend to save the most is the RAM actually.
    I think soemone already even posted a review on Buying vs Building a Clevo also in this same forums and showed that you really only save a few bucks.

    As much as we want to save as much money as we can, it does sound like a good advice to just buy it all from the same place.
    So, God forbid, anything worng happens, there is only 1 place to send it to for it to be fixed.
     
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    Yeah, too many bourbon shots did him in. He ended up losing over $1000 on this trip. :p

    Cool! I'm actually on my way to the airport for an 11:15 a.m. flight home to Atlanta. I'm gonna talk to work on Monday about changing my purchase order. If I can get them to reimburse me after I buy a V6J, then I'll place my order with you next week. Otherwise, I'll just have to wait until all the higher-ups sign off on the order. Can't really complain, since work is paying for my new baby! :D
     
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    Stay safe Jack...

    We will be here to serve you whenever you are ready.
     
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    That would be me. ;)
    And yes, the average savings building it yourself over buying from one of the resellers recommended on this site is usually 100-150.

    See my sig for the post in question.
    So the value becomes the quality of service that you get from the reseller. With the ones recommended on NBF, that QOS is very high.