Clevo P150 and P170 cooling systems neglected by Clevo! (solutions here)

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I fail to see the cooling they have used on the chips

 

well why does the heatsink on my 485m attach to the ram chips then? i know it attaches onto other components that covert the electricity and such as well.

 

Yes it does. And also the desktop cases have plenty of fans cool it also. Not only that, a lot of water cooling setups also cool the GDDR5. And a lot of the high performance ram for desktop already come with ram heatsinks.

Personally, can't think of a MXM setup in recent years that doesn't have huge heatsinks that don't cool the GDDR3/GDDR5.

 

Having a hot heatsink 100% covering it without offering any benefit is a bad idea since it needs to go over the core and VRMs anyway they make it contact.

 

did you have to increase voltage at all to get to 980? Max stable for me was 960, i tried 980 and was BSODing every time.

 

I have a Clevo P150 + AMD 7970 and when i play resident evil 6 with v-sinc on my temps in 5minuts was 95º! when i take the v-sinc off i got 104º O_O
So i stop play nice games with nice graphics for some weeks and Google this Clevo crap temps!!

So i found Prime bios mode + fn 9 and the fun at full speed let me play in 100º and i hate the sound so i play with phones.. and its ok...

THEN.. i FOUND THIS MATE ( Beefsticks ) is a genius... so... i have read is tutorial... buy the thermal paste artic silver 5.. and now my temps play resident evil 6 online with v-sinc off ( 95, 120 fps ) wit sweetfx on and i have play for 1hour my temps is... is... is... 74º max O_O

TKS FOR SAVING MY COMPUTER MY FRIEND... WE NEED PEOPLE LIKE YOU IN THIS WORLD... YOU MAKE THE DIFFERENCE!!

Im so Happyy...

BIG TKS...

 

Any progress on this or was it more or less just one of those cool ideas but eh too much effort kind of thing? I know how that goes, lol.

What I really wish is that they'd sell replacement covers and I'd just cut out some areas and fasten in aluminum plating for max heat transfer (with spacers of course... dont want shorts)

You're very welcome! I'm glad it worked so well for you

 

Has Clevo made any progress on the P1**SM machines?

 

Hope they have, since I'm planning to purchase an XMG P703 (P177SW) at the end of this month.

The review on notebookcheck says that the laptop stays cool throughout, the only issues are the fan noise. However XMG replied and said they have implemented a revised fan table which takes care of that. Still the GPU temps on GTX 780M seemed to be going into the high 80C, which I know is within normal limits for a laptop GPU... however it would be prefereable if they were under 80C.

 

The notebook check reviews had the old heatsinks too. Also the 780m is built to run hot, the cooler it is the faster it clocks itself.

 

Right, so I'd be expecting to run into temps around 80C while play Crysis lets say? Or BF4 and COD Ghosts.

As far as I can tell from the reviews Clevo P177SW can deal with this kind of temps just fine.

 

80C is no problem for this kind of machine.

 

Okay, so let's say I run this machine for 4 hours a day at that kind of temperatures for a year. There won't be any harm done right?


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In theory, the more you push it, the quicker it breaks, so no one can promise no harm done. But I won't have much worries even if I run 80C 24/7.

 

Ah ok, thanks!

I think I'm gonna go for the P370SM, it has 3 fans instead of 2 on the P177SM and also I'll be able to add another Radeon HD 8970M later on next year at some point for XFIRE

 

BF4 isn't that much more intensive than BF3... it'll run on the p150 just fine too The desktop 7970 gets 110-130FPS on my friend's machine that I built for him so the mobile should hit above 50fps even with the lesser processor

 

Ah thanks for that, I think I'll be going for the P370SM though anyways. Just gives me more scope for upgrades.

I think I'm gonna miss the flashing led soundbar of the P177SM.


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No at that sort of loading you would expect multiple years, it's more likely something else would give out first.

 

That's very reassuring, hope nothing gives up though

At least for a few years

 

Well it is modular so at least you can replace parts easily.

 

Exactly why I'm going with Clevo this time

Still cant decide whether its gonna be P177SM or P370SM :/

 

I had just cut away the plastic over the fans on my P150HM and was wondering how are people mounting fan grills to the back cover?



Also, my temps with 680M, fan on auto + CM X-Slim cooloer = 80C in BF4 maxed out. Kombuster can still go over 90C in extended runs.

 

Well you will want a very low restriction gauss otherwise you would have been better leaving it alone.

 

Is this still an issue with the 170SM? I skimmed back about half a dozen pages and only saw the EM explicitly mentioned.


Also, related to cooling, does anyone have the thickness of the thermal pads for the GPU memory handy? Are they worth replacing?

 

Not really worth the hassle and some 170SM heatsinks are now a single block which would mostly mitigate this issue.

 

A single block? Do you mean the heatsink for the GPU and the heatsink for the graphics memory are now one unit? If so, then if I plan to repaste, I should do it while the laptop is new before the thermal pads cure, correct?

 

One heat sink for GPU core and VRAM. The CPU still enjoys its own cooling pipeline.

 

It's like the alienware heatsink. Honestly I don't get why Clevo would make the tabs out of solid copper on the CPU block but use cheap tabs on the CPU block.

 

Okay, well I just ordered a P170SM. My reseller only offers to upgrade the CPU paste so I figure ill just repaste myself once I get it so I can do the GPU as well. The thing is I'm not sure how to handle thermal pads which seem to normally be used on the VRAM. I've read that if pads are used, then don't replace them with paste, correct. If so, I guess I'll have to find aftermarket pads in addition to paste?

 

The pads are ok for a few applications so long as they are touched as little as possible and make sure they are not folding over themselves.

 

A quick warning for those who hesitate to apply the fixes.
Applying a slight pressure on the GPU heatsink as described in the tutorial made my GPU thermal paste crack a little (I heard a tiny noise), resulting in a huge spike in temperatures even after applying all fixes carefully.
My GPU is running at 70C on IDLE a full fan speed now, with no overclocking. This results in a comp shut down after 5 min of Battlefield 4 due to above 105C GPU temp. Same result with Kombustor on stock clocks.
Great. :thumbsup:

edit:typo

 

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Reapply the paste cause temps like that are terminal long term for the gpu.

 

I've ordered IC 7 Diamond paste, I'll apply it on both the CPU and GPU. Gaming will have to wait a little.

 

Yeah, once standard paste dries it becomes very fragile.

 

Ok, I reapplied the thermal paste to both my CPU and GPU, which turned out to be quite a good idea.
Results below.

IDLE
CPU: -8°C
GPU: -13°C

Full load
CPU: -21°C
GPU: -30°C

That's right. At full load I went from 105C to 75C with my GPU, 89C to 68C with the CPU. The vents were slightly covered with dust, their removal must've helped as well (I'd say it covered approx. 5% of the vents' overall surface). I also removed the shady heatsink pressure "fix" suggested by OP.

 

Its only a fix if your pipes were originally bent out of shape. Heat sink compound bakes on and will crack when you push on it, if you've had your system for awhile.

And, of course reapplication of IC made it better since you were running with stock slop regardless of whether you think my advice is poor or not.

Talk when you know what's going on, thanks.

 

The part I didn't know before applying your fix:

Having a recent and decent thermal paste job should be prerequisite for this fix then. A warning could be useful for those newbs with 1 or 2 years old systems looking for cheap performance tweaks, just like me.

Note: I didn't mean to offend, sorry if that's the case. Your tutorial clearly helped a lot of people, hats off to you.

 

A good repaste, clean and if needed repad is the basis of any mid term maintenance.

 

Hi, I have p150sm and I also have problems with temps. When I press in place X4 I observed a drop about -8* C. I would like to ask where I have to use washers to decrease the temperature? X3 or X1?

Cheers

 

X due to the shape but you could experiment.

 

It would be nice to mimic some of the setups on other manufacturers laptops as well. I.e. Hp where they used a small leaf spring that was mounted to the heatsink and pressed up against the bottom cover allowing constant pressure. Or you could just make small incremental bends to flatten your hs.

 

Hi there,
Thanks a lot for your work, this thread is amazing. I already did the aluminium part on my P150HM and now I want to upgrade my Bios to the prema one. You say that's for any P150 series but are you sure it's compatible with the HM series? Is there anyone who tried to update his 150HM bios? Which modded bios did you choose? The P150EM one?

FIY, my gpu is 6990M and I have the latest official bios and EC.

Thanks!

 

I cannot emphasize enough on this: Cleaning the Heatsink vents is the MAIN maintenance for temps you should do. I know it because i did not believe it before. Even 5% lint and dust can cause 10 to 20 C increase in temps. Why? Well to me its fairly obvious, the vents tend to concentrate the air flow in the first part were the air can go out, so that 5 % accounts for probably 90% of the actual air flow. This vents are not laminar flow (which would be great btw....), so one must maintain clean as often as once a month depending on the use and ambient dust you have. I do it every other month, and my working CPU temps are usually between 35 and 45 C (gaming the range is 50 to 62 C), GPU in games varies between 63 to 83 C (the latter only in certain games like witcher 2 that seems to really demand my gpu, on dota2 or similar games its usually around 65C).
So go buy that bottle of compressed air and take the 5 to 10 mins you need to do a proper cleanup.
My rig is almost 2 years old, and i have never repasted the factory IC diamond 7
FYI i have NOT applied any of the fixes and improvements in my rig, mainly because i dont think i really need them.

 

If you don't have anything to use, just blow air with your mouth can work on some machines. Remember to wear glasses or close your eyes.


PCH/SB is a different story though.

 

Good sharing


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Well, so what is the answer for that question? Where to put washers in a case like this?

 

Are you having issues? What is your contact pattern like?