Clevo P150hm - Matte w/ 95% gamut or Glossy w/ 95% gamut?

I linked the specs for both screens somewhere in this thread. Hmm.. There you go.

 

Any progress in acquiring the comparison pictures between the V4 and the V7 displays? I ordered a Clevo P150HM with the V4 (from pc-konsulten.se, which seems to be a user on these forums as well), but I changed it to the V7, as it has been indicated that it is a higher quality screen, which is all well since I haven't been bothered by the glossy screen on my current laptop (an Asus A6JA Q028P, which I have had for nearly 5 years).

 

Great! I think you made the right choice. I have been waiting for a response from LBO for 2 days now, it's unusual for them not to respond for so long, I'm uncertain whether the v7s have arrived yet. We are all waiting for LBO to post pics on Whirlpool and I will be sure to post them here as soon as i see them.

 

The screens have arrived!

 

Hey, guys, what is the best user friendly calibration tool for High Gamut screen like those, and of course for the rest options? I suppose someone mentioned Spyder 3 Elite for out of the box easy calibration... Want to get all the best out of my B156HW01 V4 when it arrives)

 

Hi Red Line, unless you are doing photo and video editing professionally, there is no need to get a colorimeter specifically to calibrate the screen as they should be factory-calibrated anyway. It simply isn't worth the price imo if you are not going to calibrate the screen almost everyday.

To illustrate this, what most professionals do is that they calibrate their screen every time before beginning their workflow, to ensure that the screen is displaying the correct colours in the current ambient lighting situation that they have.

The Spyder 3 Pro and Eye One Display 2 are excellent tools to start out with. Also, look for one with ambient light function, which takes into account the lighting around you to calibrate your screen accurately.

 

Many users complain about the over-saturation of colors in the 95% gamut v4. (Look up w510 and w520 thinkpads, they use identical panels)

I'm also under the impression that glossy screens crush colors and make them appear more saturated than matte screens .*someone correct me if I'm wrong*

I can't imagine going 95% gamut + glossy would look well if what I typed was true.

 

@GXX

Hi, I have been looking into the information you gave. Just so you know I have really no idea when it comes to details of color displays and such. I can see there are quite a few complaints about over saturation of colours in the thinkpads you mentioned with the v4, but prior to this i had heard only the highest of praise telling how beautiful the screens are in the Clevo p1000 series and I had never heard a single negative review either. In fact everyone seems to be saying they are the best laptop screens period; well at least until the v7 was introduced. As the facts stand, the Clevo P150hm with the v4 or v7 is stunning, so I am asking myself what the issue seems to be surrounding the thinkpad comments and doing some research in the area to find an answer, after all we can speculate as much as we want but we need facts to clarify the issue. Will get back shortly.

[EDIT 1] Ok so the issue at hand is really "wide gamut over saturation". One reason why there may be a problem in relation to thinkpad is because thinkpad users are more concerned with photography/graphical design work and possibly something to do with the hardware in the thinkpad. By definition the wider gamut screens are supposed to look better and have better colour and visuals and the question is whether the system and hardware can handle/manage the wider gamut without over saturation occurring; after all they do cost more. I am clearly not qualified to discuss this though so don't flog me; this may only be a stringing together of some loosely gathered facts which is the best i can do with my knowledge .

[EDIT 2] After writing this I looked further and came across this article which directly focuses on this topic. The above paragraph is useless in comparison to this source, as the author has taken the time to gather and compile all information surrounding the matter, however it does confirm my theory about software/hardware being able to manage the wider gamut being key to the question at hand:
A guide to wider gamut displays - I am currently reading through it.

[EDIT 3] In conclusion the P150hm does not have any reported issues surrounding its system being able to manage wider gamut displays and thus the 95% gamut matte and glossy screen are beautiful and far superior to their standard gamut screen counterparts. Without looking into in depth as there is no need, it is clearly apparent that the system in the Thinkpad models you mentioned have issues managing wider gamut. There are however ways to combat this effect as I learned through skimming through the article I linked above. Anyone wanting to read into this matter in more detail I would recommend they go to that article as linked above. There is also plenty of other information on the topic of controlling wider gamut displays if you conduct a quick google search.

As for glossy screens 'crushing colours' I really don't know what you mean by this and where you get this from, so please enlighten me of any such facts. As far as I know glossy screens provide an artificial representation of colours which is more vibrant and suited towards media entertainment as opposed to the matte screens which provide a natural representation of colours as they will appear printed in real life and are suited towards graphic designers and photographers.

On another note, my order was built at shipped today!

 

That's a good article which simplifies the technical details. From what I know though, the issue with colour matching isn't really much on hardware at all but more on software and drivers. The thinkpad owners could simply be more critical about their screens since thinkpads are essentially work-centric computers while most people I believe get Sagers as entertainment/gaming powerhouses.

Unfortunately, it is the inherent nature of wide-gamut screens to oversaturate programmes designed in the sRGB colour space and there's no way of escaping that fact. Whatever oversaturation that the Thinkpads using the v4 screens exhibit, the Sagers will exhibit too. But what's most important is that as long as the v4/v7 screens still look better than the stock ones despite the over-saturation then that's what matters right?

To those requiring the screens for accurate colour detail work, most if not all photo/video editing software such as the Adobe suite are entirely colour-mangeable programmes so the over-saturation is a moot point.

 

My laptop has arrived! But I can't open the package until later this evening because I have other business to attend to.

Screen: v7
Cpu: i7 2720
Gpu: Nvidia GTX 485M
Storage: 500GB 7200RPM, Super Multi 8X DVD±R/RW with Double Layer Support
RAM: 4GB ddr3 1333hz + (I'm adding) 4GB ddr3 1333hz + 2GB ddr3 1066hz (I had from old laptop)

I am relieved I found exactly what I needed and finally got the delivered product after a month of learning and toiling that went into finding this laptop, with help of course from nbr, whirlpool and lbo. I must find time to write a review on LBO for others to see how awesome they are.

I feel drunk on relief xD.

 

Pictures of the screen and all its glory please pepi18! I'm still torn between the v4 and v7. Congratulations on your new toy too

 

Congrats! Mine just got shipped from Sager to my reseller. Suppose to be there tmw and in my hands a couple days after. can't wait!

 

My new signature xD (below).

 

Agreed I would like to see that too!

 

Pictures coming soon xD.

 

Yay!! Finally got my 8150-S1 from powernotebook. I opt for the 95% matte display. All I have to say is WOW!!! this screen is gorgeous!! I don't have the glossy version to compare to, but it is really really bright. I have the brightness set to about 50% and it's almost too bright. Colors are really vivid. Comparing this to my old old HP laptop with a glossy screen, the HP's screen looks so washed out. And to be honest, I almost couldn't tell that this is a matte screen. I'm totally happy with my setup!

Time to go play some games now at ultra settings.

 

Images uploaded on first page of this thread.

They came out really bad :S. It shows just how good I am at taking photos. If anyone has other requested I would be glad to take some more photos.

 

Hello, fellas. I'm a little frustrated about my situation. Here is what happened:

I've ordered and LCD - LP156WF1 LAPTOP LCD SCREEN FOR B156HW01 V.4 from ebay (browngranite) and currently there are 3 other resellers that offer exact same screens.

First, i thought its AUO B156HW01 V.4, but when i received it today (its glossy) I found a sticker wich says LG display Like how can it be LG if it also says B156HW01 V.4. I left it sealed for now and didn't open.

The thing is that i might not payed attention to LP156WF1 and 3 weeks for international delivery passed so i can't claim for money back and the only chance to get them is to write to Paypal. But i don't know how exactly to ask for a replacement/money back, this is the first time i deal with ebay and through my body's account

I mean, if anybody got the exact same glossy LG screen and it's nice i'll use it, but if its gross - any help in get it returned will be appreciated. Thanks

 

Hey I have the exact screen in my Clevo P150HM and i can tell you that it is actually quite GOOD! I have to admit I had my doubts about getting the gloss screen but this one looks even better than the one I had in my XPS M1730 and that one was 1200p! This one has far better colours, viewing angles and brightness you wont be disappointed!

 

So glad somebody with the same screen did respond! Can you provide a few pics, please? I'd appreciate it with +rep)

 

Im going to do a full review with a lot of pics so yeah you will get to see the screen. I should have the review done by maybe sunday/monday but if you want to see the pics I have now PM me

 

So what is the model ID for the LG?

If I paid for a 95% matte AUO, I wouldn't accept a 60 or 72% glossy LG.

 

LG Philips LP156WF1

 

I ordered the 95% glossy which I haven't heard much about yet... Sure the matte would have been nicer for outside conditions but I've had a glossy screen for about 6 years now and it's seldom bothered me.

I spend much more time in dark lecture halls and library cubes than I do anywhere else, so the glossy screen works just fine.

 

Yep, i confirm that. Although there are few abbreviations after this like A1, L1 etc and i have no clue which one exactly. It's just glossy

 

Yep thats true btw my review is complete just need to post it on NBR i will link you the screen images.

 

Thanks for that, mate! +rep to you. Hope to read your review ASAP and get a few comparison opinions between LG and AUO. Seems like it's a decent screen for the money)

 

So i decided to leave LG Philips LP156WF1 and additionally ordered spyder3elite for 190$ (in my country in costs 300$), consider the screen will produce more accurate results after calibration. Did anyone here used spyder3 for there monitors?

 

Keep in mind that Windows 7 color calibrations don't work in Directx games.

 

Seriously? Din'tthink of it... so just for 2d mode while on the desktop? Why it doesn't support directx?

 

I kinda feel that the LG is not worth a $190 calibration tool. The color gamut is not high enough to warrant such pampering.

I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding what MaXKiLLz said, because the different calibration profiles I have definitely show up in games.

 

Is calibration that important to you? Unless your screen has 95%+ gamut, it's a waste of $190 for a calibration device that costs more than the LCD panel does.

Do you do graphic design or photography or video production or web design where colors have to be 100% accurate from what you see on screen to what will be produced for your work or clients? Otherwise, there is no need.

I actually don't like calibrated colors for just using my computer. I prefer my games to be a little more saturated with more contrast and vividness than what the "accurate" colors would actually be.

 

Nope, i only enjoy amateur photography... i don't want to use it for a single screen, but for the future as well. I plan to buy either m18x or x7200 sucessor later on, so i thought that would be a good investment for the next couple of years. LG screen is just for starters to play with, if i don't really like spyder3elite i could sell it in here for the price i spend with no problems. It's probably my native screen and the "visual difference between screen options" thread that pushed me to by this thing. I so hate stock Dell display...

 

So Pepi18, how you liking the glossy screen? how well does it fare with the sunlight? More pictures if you can

 

The screen is excellent and I am enjoying it just as much as I did when I first got it . At the moment I am using my laptop in a desktop situation, even as portable as it is, where it stays perched on my laptop cooler in my room with the battery removed. For this reason I have not taken it outside thus far, however I will be traveling with it next week.

Since you mentioned it, I will test it outside and I might take some pictures as well within the next week.

Cheers!

 

thanks for the tech docs on the V4 and V7! very informative!

 

Ok guys i would lvoe some help with the gloss vs matte screen scenario.

I am currently looking at a p150hm gloss screen AUO B156HW1 V7

but

I can get the matte version thats 95% gamut for an extra £75. Is it worth it? do i need it?

I plan to use the laptop in trains (likely at night)
In lecture halls and librarys
In my room with a window that allows direct sunlight to hit the laptop screen when the sun sets.

Will the brightness of the glossy counter this or is matte essential?

Bare in mind i do live in the UK so the sunlight isnt exactly intense here XD

p.s. i think this thread is AMAZING and i will add photos when i get my ph150hm

Edit: i can also have a p170hm but with the standard default gloss screen for the same price as the matte. For a bigger screen is it worth sacrificing screen quality? Please understand i will only be using this laptop for gaming and word processing. Also i cant afford any higher than the standard gloss on the p170hm

 

How are black levels on the matte option? I've tried the glossy V4(?) on the L502X and it was pretty good so I'm reluctant to switch to matte as much as I'd like no glare. This laptop will be used mainly for creating and viewing artwork

 

If you create and view artwork, then most certainly you'll print it someday. A good high gamut matte screen gives you more faithful results to what you see on screen than any glossy wood, and it looks pretty well eitherway. I'm a digital creative owner of a HP LP2475w, so I have some experience with it.

 

way to bump a 5 month old thread

Now that there's a new round of Clevo's, these screen threads are probably good to have near the top. Hopefully they'll prevent redundant threads since very little has changed in the way of screens from last year.

 

I made this way too much of a dilemma, reading through all the threads on the topic as well as comparison pictures I could find, but nonetheless I still keep changing my mind at the last minute. The consensus is that 95% gamut glossy has an extra bit of pop that really makes it a "wow!" display although only a tad bit more so. Even though I will be able to control my lighting 90-95% of the time while using my P150EM, I am still not entirely sure I would like seeing reflections in my games although for general Mac/Windows use they do not bother me.

I really wish somebody had comparison pictures between the 95% glossy and 95% matte although pictures of the standard glossy vs the 95% matte having a little better contrast made me realize the glossy 95% is going to look amazing with the combined increased contrast ratio, vibrance, accuracy, along with the deceptive glossiness. Ugh, this debating wastes too much time haha but I am trying to go for a totally perfect system. Glossy it is, I guess...

 

You can always add a anti-glare film or switch it out if you can't stand it.`~

 

The issue with that is clarity is reduced when applying a film, separating the panel between two finishes, compared to a having an anti-glare finish installed from the get-go. I guess I'll just get stuck with reflections though.