The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
 Next page →

    Clevo P157SM/P177SM/P375SM in details

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Cloudfire, May 17, 2013.

  1. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

    Reputations:
    7,279
    Messages:
    10,304
    Likes Received:
    2,878
    Trophy Points:
    581
    I just found these detailed pictures from the upcoming models, with Haswell + 700M series. :)

    P177SM















    All credits goes to: 至高神


    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    P375SM





















    All credits goes to: Prema & goodbyte

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    P157SM






















    All credits goes to: 至高神
     
  2. arcticjoe

    arcticjoe Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    66
    Messages:
    877
    Likes Received:
    67
    Trophy Points:
    41
    looks like EM series keyboard is back... hope they've made some improvements to its UK layout and performance.
     
  3. Red Line

    Red Line Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    1,109
    Messages:
    1,289
    Likes Received:
    141
    Trophy Points:
    81
    Great pictures! Both models look HOT!!! Very much interested in close range P375SM model if you can dig those out ;) tnx
     
  4. awakeN

    awakeN Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    616
    Messages:
    1,067
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Damn... that matte screen frame makes me so jealous since it's really annoying to have to clean off dust and fingerprints off of my P150EM's screen frame everyday.

    In any case, this reminded me to clean my laptop so it looks brand new like those in the pictures ;_;
     
  5. Vlastimil91

    Vlastimil91 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    5
    Messages:
    40
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    16
    And what CLEVO P375SM :)
     
  6. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

    Reputations:
    9,368
    Messages:
    6,297
    Likes Received:
    16,481
    Trophy Points:
    681
    Just wait it's all there and I am sure Cloud will bring it all, but the pics need re-hosting ;)
     
  7. pau1ow

    pau1ow Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    1,336
    Messages:
    1,181
    Likes Received:
    84
    Trophy Points:
    66
    Looks good! Thanks for the info.
    My Steelseries keyboard is waiting for this magnificent P157SM :p
     
  8. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

    Reputations:
    7,279
    Messages:
    10,304
    Likes Received:
    2,878
    Trophy Points:
    581
  9. Seus

    Seus Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    63
    Messages:
    106
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    The abstract symbol is a little too much for my own personal taste otherwise they both look excellent.
     
  10. Tmets

    Tmets De-evolving to Amoeba

    Reputations:
    550
    Messages:
    4,679
    Likes Received:
    423
    Trophy Points:
    151
    Looks the same internal layout, almost identical to the HM models aside from the mSATA. I'm hoping the Xfi label points to much improved sound, both through speakers and headphones. It's certainly a major failing in the old models.
     
  11. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

    Reputations:
    9,368
    Messages:
    6,297
    Likes Received:
    16,481
    Trophy Points:
    681
    Check your PM ;)
     
  12. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

    Reputations:
    2,365
    Messages:
    9,422
    Likes Received:
    200
    Trophy Points:
    231
    WOOOWWW that keyboard! I wanna kill it nazi style
     
  13. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

    Reputations:
    7,279
    Messages:
    10,304
    Likes Received:
    2,878
    Trophy Points:
    581
    Just uploaded P375SM pictures thanks to Prema. They are in the first post :)
     
  14. Tedster59

    Tedster59 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    5
    Messages:
    180
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    ETA on these? they look great :)
     
  15. Vlastimil91

    Vlastimil91 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    5
    Messages:
    40
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    16
    THX Prema :)
    And as looks cooling?
    It is better cooler for GPU2 or the same as the P370?
     
  16. Hybrys

    Hybrys That Damn Cactuar!

    Reputations:
    976
    Messages:
    1,283
    Likes Received:
    130
    Trophy Points:
    81
    So, does that mean that someone has the P375SM specs/details/manual around? Or could at least say if the mSATA ports are definitively SATA3?
     
  17. DGDXGDG

    DGDXGDG Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    737
    Messages:
    787
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    31
    good news is p370 can take p375's improved hs (drop full load temp, only the cpu idle temp will be higher):thumbsup:

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
  18. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

    Reputations:
    2,365
    Messages:
    9,422
    Likes Received:
    200
    Trophy Points:
    231
    Im going to ask if anyone has any pics from the w230st, pretty please
     
  19. iaTa

    iaTa Do Not Feed

    Reputations:
    1,328
    Messages:
    2,675
    Likes Received:
    197
    Trophy Points:
    81
    Shame about the flashy lights and alienware-esque graphics.

    Will have to pass on this generation and I know a few others that feel the same.
     
  20. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

    Reputations:
    2,365
    Messages:
    9,422
    Likes Received:
    200
    Trophy Points:
    231
    there is the non flashy models as well, i prefer that one too. This ^ design for me is a mix of bad taste, lets aim for asus and crash with msi
     
  21. mahalsk

    mahalsk Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    262
    Messages:
    286
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Is it known if they will have optimus/enduro permanently on? Or mux design this time? especially 157/177sm models..
     
  22. Red Line

    Red Line Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    1,109
    Messages:
    1,289
    Likes Received:
    141
    Trophy Points:
    81
    DGDXGDG Why the cooling is improved? Is that because of the little piece of foil on the radiator for better airflow?
     
  23. DGDXGDG

    DGDXGDG Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    737
    Messages:
    787
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    31
    master gpu: thicker heatpipe used>>>improve heat transfer, larger copper fin>>>larger air flow contact area
    slave gpu: without the strange cpu hs, the copper fin which attached on gpu core heatpipe is larger>>>larger air flow contact area
    cant look into cpu hs so i dont sure if its improved......somebody get rid of that cpu fan!!! :mad:
     
  24. Red Line

    Red Line Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    1,109
    Messages:
    1,289
    Likes Received:
    141
    Trophy Points:
    81
    aha, now i see it. and the cpu hs is not connected with slave gpu fin anymore, interesting... may be they used the tech from p570wm to cool the cpu?
     
  25. TR2N

    TR2N Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    301
    Messages:
    1,347
    Likes Received:
    255
    Trophy Points:
    101
    A most critical post/question as past enduro has tarnished the clevo/sager brand. Let's hope this has now been resolved in the BIOS with IGPU able to be disabled.

    Please say this is so.
     
  26. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

    Reputations:
    9,368
    Messages:
    6,297
    Likes Received:
    16,481
    Trophy Points:
    681
    The iGPU operates in "fully muxed mode" so it's still "hard-wired"...but I think AMD has a new driver up their sleeves... ;)
     
  27. Red Line

    Red Line Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    1,109
    Messages:
    1,289
    Likes Received:
    141
    Trophy Points:
    81
    Prema

    Any word about p375sm and its iGPU mode?
     
  28. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

    Reputations:
    9,426
    Messages:
    58,171
    Likes Received:
    17,882
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Dual card systems don't support switching.
     
  29. mahalsk

    mahalsk Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    262
    Messages:
    286
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Hope your right, it's been a long wait..The fact that clevo and other brands still use enduro, and the 8970m is basicly a 7970m gives a chance we'll get a fully working driver that utilizes the gpu as if without enduro..
     
  30. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

    Reputations:
    9,426
    Messages:
    58,171
    Likes Received:
    17,882
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Those heatsinks look to take up more room maybe, would be interesting if the Primary GPU heatsink from a 375SM could be used in the 150 and 170....
     
  31. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

    Reputations:
    4,125
    Messages:
    11,571
    Likes Received:
    9,148
    Trophy Points:
    931
    they do indeed look kinda compatible :) altho id still prefer a beefed up cpu hs in my case :p my gpu already runs cool as it is...

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  32. ToujoursEnLigne

    ToujoursEnLigne Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    42
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Though have seen it in BaiduTieba,i still have a problem.
    Will the flashy wing logo be applied on all the SM Series,Does it mean that no matter which resellers will sell the new models with the Wing Logo?
    If true,it's just a shock for me.Maybe i will turn to ROG G76 this year :( just because of the wing
     
  33. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

    Reputations:
    3,289
    Messages:
    10,780
    Likes Received:
    1,773
    Trophy Points:
    581
    Yeah the wings are a bit much. I'd absolutely love the P177SM if it didn't have the emblem on the touchpad.
     
  34. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

    Reputations:
    9,426
    Messages:
    58,171
    Likes Received:
    17,882
    Trophy Points:
    931
    That logo can be turned off or you can go for one of the models without the lights.

    Jaybee you could at least get the copper version from a 170 series.
     
  35. thehunt33r

    thehunt33r Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    10
    Messages:
    30
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    The winged logo looks like Bitfenix's one. I think I'll go for P150SM, instead. The good thing is that they are identical (except the outside).
     
  36. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

    Reputations:
    9,426
    Messages:
    58,171
    Likes Received:
    17,882
    Trophy Points:
    931
    And the lack of 2nd 2.5" bay. But it is lighter as a result.
     
  37. harmattan

    harmattan Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    432
    Messages:
    642
    Likes Received:
    55
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Thanks for that. That logo is god awful, but if it can be turned off (separately from the backlit keyboard) then it shouldn't be an issue.
     
  38. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

    Reputations:
    4,125
    Messages:
    11,571
    Likes Received:
    9,148
    Trophy Points:
    931
    hm indeed, didnt think about that. u think the copper vs. aluminum heatsink fins would make a significant difference?
     
  39. Vlastimil91

    Vlastimil91 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    5
    Messages:
    40
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Hoped I´m that cooling will have three heat-pipe tube for core. I wonder how it will cool. Perhaps it will be better than in the P370EM :)
     
  40. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

    Reputations:
    9,426
    Messages:
    58,171
    Likes Received:
    17,882
    Trophy Points:
    931
    The cooling on the 150 and 170 looks to be the same as the old ones, the 375 is getting a cooling upgrade over the 370.
     
  41. DarkMx2000

    DarkMx2000 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    134
    Messages:
    107
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Isn't the logo on the trackpad possibly something that the reseller added to each of them? I can't see Clevo adding them stock to all there laptops.
     
  42. Tedster59

    Tedster59 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    5
    Messages:
    180
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Are these even to resellers yet?
     
  43. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

    Reputations:
    4,125
    Messages:
    11,571
    Likes Received:
    9,148
    Trophy Points:
    931
    unfortunately, all sources ive seen so far came with that weird logo on the touchpad. that would include turkish, australian, chinese and german resellers so far....so yeah, i guess its a clevo thing :-/

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  44. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

    Reputations:
    9,426
    Messages:
    58,171
    Likes Received:
    17,882
    Trophy Points:
    931
    That sort of thing is too expensive for a reseller to design.
     
  45. Saucycarpdog

    Saucycarpdog Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    69
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    16
    I know it shouldn't make that big of a difference but I'm seriously going to reconsider getting clevo next refresh if I cant shut off the wing logo without shutting off the key lights.
     
  46. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

    Reputations:
    9,426
    Messages:
    58,171
    Likes Received:
    17,882
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Or buy the version without the case lights and just the backlit keyboard. I don't see why people are upset with a choice.
     
  47. Hybrys

    Hybrys That Damn Cactuar!

    Reputations:
    976
    Messages:
    1,283
    Likes Received:
    130
    Trophy Points:
    81
    If the version with the case lights has better cooling under the hood, that should make a lot of people upset.
     
  48. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

    Reputations:
    9,426
    Messages:
    58,171
    Likes Received:
    17,882
    Trophy Points:
    931
    The pictures prove they don't.

    The only model with any different feature is the 157SM which can take a second 2.5" bay but it is heavier as a result.

    Beyond that it looks to be purely a cosmetic choice.
     
  49. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

    Reputations:
    3,289
    Messages:
    10,780
    Likes Received:
    1,773
    Trophy Points:
    581
    I like the lights on the P177SM. Heck, I wish there were more. That's the laptop I'll get, if the MSI GT70 doesn't attract me.
     
    geko95gek likes this.
  50. Hybrys

    Hybrys That Damn Cactuar!

    Reputations:
    976
    Messages:
    1,283
    Likes Received:
    130
    Trophy Points:
    81
    This is what I was pulling on, saying that the cosmetic differences may have a performance difference. Not necessarily 150SM vs 157SM, but 370SM vs 375SM.
     
 Next page →