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    Clevo P170HM: AMD Radeon 6970m goodness. :D

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by DEagleson, Apr 8, 2011.

  1. amcolex

    amcolex Notebook Guru

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    I have 3 profiles:
    Low: 100 MHz Core, 150 Mhz Memeory, 0.71V
    Medium : 300 Mhz Core, 900 Mhz Memory, 0.85V
    High: 680 Mhz Core, 900 Mhz Memory, 0.91V

    I'm 95% of the time on low, even when watching 1080p videos on youtube, with 2 screens, etc.

    I only every switch to a higher clocked profile when playing games.

    Temp wise, i idle at 42C on low, with the NC2000 cooler. on High (without any activity) i idle around 65 with the NC2000 turned off.

    68C idle seems like your GPU is indeed running at maxed clocks (680 / 900), which was also the case for me when connecting a second monitor.

    Try forcing the clocks at 100 / 150 with the default voltage at 0.9V (you could try to under volt later if you want. It can really go down quite a a bit).
     
    amcolex, Jun 11, 2011
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  2. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    Soon? The 7000M is not coming until Q1 of 2012.
     
    Kevin, Jun 11, 2011
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  3. Mr_Mysterious

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    Well what about NVIDIA's lineup? Right, the 485M is backordered so it's looking promising :D

    Mr. Mysterious
     
    Mr_Mysterious, Jun 11, 2011
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  4. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    Did a OC attempt today, tried running 820 MHz on the GPU core and 1050 MHz on the memory.
    It stays at 90c and did peak up to 100c when using "Fn+1".

    A little too high tempwise for me, so im gonna clean my notebook for dust and reapply with IC Diamond thermal paste since i finally found a retailer.
     
    DEagleson, Jun 11, 2011
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  5. Red Line

    Red Line Notebook Deity

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    Was that 100C for the core clock or on memory chips? It's way to high for the core temp especially with fans turned on max...
     
    Red Line, Jun 12, 2011
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  6. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    CPUID Hardware Monitor did only show 1 temp bar for the GPU.
    Dident get any artifacts or graphical errors on my OC so it was stable, did a 1h play on Splinter Cell Conviction.
     
    DEagleson, Jun 12, 2011
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  7. Red Line

    Red Line Notebook Deity

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    That's the tool i had before, but now i manly use HWiNFO64, try that! It records all the available sensor temps on your rig) Hope it helps..
     
    Red Line, Jun 12, 2011
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  8. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    Checked with HWiNFO64 and my GPU does peak at 100c with 775MHz core 1000MHz memory overclock.
    Highest GPU usage was 94%.
    But usually it stayed at the 80c mark.
    Highest CPU temp was 74c and it did stress all 4 cores.

    I checked the temps while playing Splinter Cell Conviction.
    The card does handle desktop HD 6850 clocks and does not show any graphical errors, but im replacing the thermal paste with some IC Diamond later this week.
     
    DEagleson, Jun 12, 2011
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  9. Red Line

    Red Line Notebook Deity

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    You'd better do it, cause i seriously doubt you GPU will last a year with such a high temps! It's probably a bad thermal paste job or the heatsink doesn't touch the surface of the chip correctly...
     
    Red Line, Jun 13, 2011
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  10. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    The AMD Radeon 6970M is now being phased out. No further comment at this time. Sorry... :(
    _
     
    Larry@LPC-Digital, Jun 17, 2011
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  11. Red Line

    Red Line Notebook Deity

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    Niceeee... Thanks for the update bebyhemi. So no point to order now, right?
     
    Red Line, Jun 17, 2011
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  12. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    Yes as far as ordering this card in a NEW Clevo or Sager Laptop yes.
    _
     
    Larry@LPC-Digital, Jun 17, 2011
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  13. Red Line

    Red Line Notebook Deity

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    Let's hold some horses for now, New GPU's incoming!!! That's sweet, why this summer is so hot )
     
    Red Line, Jun 17, 2011
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  14. Abidderman

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    I know you can't comment, so I am not asking, so for any non resellers, it would seem that since this is a very recent release, that this could be interpreted as a response to all the issues I have been seeing on this card? I have a friend that is interested in this card, so I have been watching info on this for a while now. As Kevin said, the only projection I have seen so far was for sometime in '12 for a new card, so this seems very premature to phase it out now. Anyone have any other info?
     
    Abidderman, Jun 18, 2011
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  15. Kevin

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    I meant 2012 for the 7000M series. The existence of another 6900M series part has been known since late February.
     
    Kevin, Jun 18, 2011
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  16. Red Line

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    Exactly, in '12 will see some 28nm GPU's 7000-series from amd and 600-series (or whatever) from nvidia, but in between future and present during summer two brands are expected to release their new flagships on top of 485m and 6970m to bring out some more competition for the next half a year. So we wait)
     
    Red Line, Jun 18, 2011
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  17. ilikeicehockey

    ilikeicehockey Notebook Evangelist

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    Interesting stuff. Going to be making a trip to the US in August and I'm planning on buying an 8150 and having it shipped to my hotel. I was going to go for the 6970 but with the phase out I hope I won't get caught with my pants down and forced to choose either the 560 or the 485. Much rather have a cheaper ATI and suffer the 10% perfomance drop than pay an extra $200.
     
    ilikeicehockey, Jun 18, 2011
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  18. ichime

    ichime Notebook Elder

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    Not even a 10% performance drop. It's more like 1% with newer drivers now :p
     
    ichime, Jun 18, 2011
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  19. Joshnor713

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    Wow, it didn't have much of a run. What's up with that?
     
    Joshnor713, Jun 18, 2011
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  20. DemonRage

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    What issues? I haven't got any.

    I know that previous ATI GPU's suffered GSOD's and random driver (atikmdag) resets. Never encountered those on my 6970m.
     
    DemonRage, Jun 18, 2011
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  21. Joshnor713

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    Even being an Nvidia fan, I really like the 6970m, it's a fantastic card for the price, which is why I'm swept away that it's being phased out so early on. I've had no problems at all with it. I understand that's not the case with everyone, but is the issue count really that high? Makes me worry.
     
    Joshnor713, Jun 18, 2011
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  22. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    I wont replace my gpu unless i see some awesome 28nm cards.
    But right now im busy using my 3DS thanks to OoT 3D. ^_^
     
    DEagleson, Jun 18, 2011
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  23. pkhetan

    pkhetan CopyLEFT ↄ⃝

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    6970M phased out !?
    Not in my knowledge, neither in the knowledge of Clevo. They still sell it for $470 without any problem.
     
    pkhetan, Jun 18, 2011
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  24. Tirenz

    Tirenz Notebook Evangelist

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    Since I built a barebone P170HM with a 6970m for a friend of mine and he will take it over in a few days, I thought I post some Benches as long as I can since I am testing it all anyway ;) ...

    Specs: 4 GB/ 2630QM/ 6970m/ 250 GB HDD @7200 RPM...

    Stock clocks:
    3DMark 06:
    [​IMG]
    3DMark Vantage:
    [​IMG]
    3DMark 11:
    [​IMG]

    Overclocked :
    3DMark 06:
    [​IMG]
    3DMark Vantage:
    [​IMG]
    3DMark 11:
    [​IMG]
     
    Tirenz, Jun 26, 2011
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  25. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    ^^^^Thanks! Nice scores! +1 :)
    _
     
    Larry@LPC-Digital, Jun 26, 2011
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  26. hungry4cheese

    hungry4cheese Notebook Enthusiast

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    I don't use a secondary monitor... So that can't be causing it. I am not overclocked either... but now I have a new issue added onto this one. My HDMI out no longer works. I tried to update my drivers from 11.5 to 11.6, but I got a message that says " ATI Catalyst Mobility cannot be downloaded due to incompatible hardware/software on your computer. Your computer does not contain a proper graphics adapter." So I tried to re-install 11.5 and got the same error??? What. I already have that driver installed so what happened. Also what happened to my HDMI? I think my card failed. When I plug in a screen I hear the new hardware sound and it shows up on the resolution settings. It even allows me to extend or duplicate or make default the hdmi monitor, but when I do, it is still a blank screen (no signal). I tried fn+f7 and fn+f2 and nothing has happened. DVI out still works (with the same TV or monitor). Should I start with an RMA? :(
     
    hungry4cheese, Jul 7, 2011
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  27. DemonRage

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    When never moving the notebook check the intake vents at the bottom after a month of frequent use. This thing sucks in dust like a motherf*****. I noticed it was all gray underneath (especially at the GPU fan), despite my efforts to keep dust away from my notebook.
     
    DemonRage, Jul 9, 2011
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  28. trinox

    trinox Notebook Consultant

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    Hi, I ve just got my laptop today and it came with the standard clevo drive. However when i try to update it to 11.9 it says that it does not recognise my card... what should i do. I tried uninstalling it but it would not work so I used system restore to get the original driver back. Is my card faulty or is there a special way to install the driver?? thanks
     
    trinox, Oct 1, 2011
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  29. johnnyman27

    johnnyman27 Notebook Lover

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    use this driver first!!!

    http://www2.ati.com/Drivers/mobile/11-9_mobility_vista_win7_64_dd_ccc_ocl.exe

    if it doesnt work use this one

    [email protected]
     
    johnnyman27, Oct 1, 2011
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  30. trinox

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    trinox, Oct 1, 2011
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    which driver u have download???i mean the one that didnt work..
     
    johnnyman27, Oct 1, 2011
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  32. trinox

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    i just downloaded the latest one from ati site but when i launched it it sayed that it could not detect graphics card/ not compatible...
    but the first one you suggested seemed to work so thanks a lot!! :)
     
    trinox, Oct 1, 2011
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  33. johnnyman27

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    u are welcome man!!!anytime!!! :)
     
    johnnyman27, Oct 1, 2011
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  34. trinox

    trinox Notebook Consultant

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    I have a question about fn +1 fan speed, when i toggle this on its goes at full speed than slows down and then speed up again. is this a problem any way to fix this?
     
    trinox, Oct 2, 2011
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  35. Anthony@MALIBAL

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    That "pulsing" is a known issue on older Bios versions. You can try doing a bios upgrade to see if it helps. If you have a Clevo machine, the Clevo bios thread has everything you need:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/416916-clevo-bios-thread.html

    However, if you have a Sager branded machine DO NOT use the above unless you plan to stick with those Bios from there on- switching back may brick your machine.

    The new bios will not get rid of that issue completely, but it does make a big difference.
     
    Anthony@MALIBAL, Oct 2, 2011
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  36. trinox

    trinox Notebook Consultant

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    I'm not sure if I can use the clevo bios or not, I.e I have the clevo shell but it is a bto from Japan. How do I check if it uses the clevo bios but before updating the graphics driver to 11.9 it had the clevo driver in it....
     
    trinox, Oct 2, 2011
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  37. Anthony@MALIBAL

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    The easiest way is just to contact your retailer. They can send you the necessary files to do an upgrade :)
     
    Anthony@MALIBAL, Oct 2, 2011
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  38. trinox

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    Awesome give that a try tomorrow. Its 2am so probably no point contacting them right now
     
    trinox, Oct 2, 2011
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