Clevo P650SE Sager NP8651 OC and CPU/Mainboard Temps

Hey everyone,:hi2: thanks in advance for the view and any advice/help. I recently purchased this laptop. I do have experience with gaming desktops but little with gaming laptops and their safe temperature zones. Everything I've read is that these machines DO get hot and that of course a laptop chill pad is recommended yadda yadda etc etc. I'll skip to my question to save the TLDR.
Under stress, the CPU and mainboard temps tend to reach 92 degrees celcius before the fans really kick into a high enough rpm to bring the temperatures back down to around 80. I spoke to a sager rep and was told that 90-92 c is normal and that unsafe is temperatures ABOVE 100c, to me this sounds really high and as this is a new device I would hate myself if I were to damage it or decrease its life substantially by doing something silly like watching a 4k video sample.
I'll give a bit of my specs to help out. This is without any overclock currently and with the fans set to automatic in the Hotkey Control Center.
i7 4710hq 2.5, 3.5 turbo
16gb DDR3 ram
128 m.2 SSD for OS
1tb 7200 rpm HDD for game installs
I did upgrade to the 4k monitor and have noticed when running at a 4k resolution and watching a 4k video in full screen the temperature rises quickly which is when a program I have starts alarming that the temperature is over 80c (default) I have since changed this to 99c for the cpu because sager told me above 100 is danger zone temperatures and its just really annoying to constantly alarm like your laptop is a sinking submarine... I can set the fans to maximum and temperatures stay well within the safe zone but constantly running the laptops fans at maximum isnt something I'm willing to do. I do plan to get a chill pad for this, however I haven't done any real gaming on this device yet and feel that I should have stable temperatures on youtube before I really push it.
I tried manually settting the Fan On temp to 55C (default was 60) and fan off to 49(default was 50) and still had temperatures exceed 90-92c.
I ran RealTemp and a stress test with prime 95 with the stress test that Realtemp suggests you run. I saw all 4 cores hit HOT and say log afterwards with temperatures of 96-98 for the different cores. However it seems as if the temperature rose so fast that the fans didn't kick in in time, once the did kick in, temperatures were below 88 (more like 80-82) for the remainder of the test.
Sorry for the long post, my first question... Is there a way to manually prevent temperatures this high?
Question two, has anyone overclocked this model? I'd like to possibly do a slight overclock after first finding a way to keep temperatures stable and in less dangerous zone.
Please if you need more information/screen shots to help me with this let me know and I would be more than happy to oblige. I have what I assume are the latest drivers. Maybe someone could recommend a better software for fan control?

 

You should repaste the CPU with some IC Diamond.. 90C is really hot.. The stock paste job is so it's overheating.. Repaste with IC Diamond or Gelid GC Extreme.. it's quite easy to do too..

 

My p650 runs well and doesn't get that hot, especially for the gpu.

Normal gaming after one-three hour your CPU should be in the 69-83°C zone (it greatly depends on the game your playing and at which resolution with or without Vsync etc)/
Stress testing, after few minutes your CPU should be stable around 82-90ish°C (which is normal for a haswell laptop)

Yep don't even post your problem if you didn't try this bad thermal paste job is the first reason for laptop overheats. The thermal pastes tomJGX adviced you to buy are by far the best for a gaming laptop since their viscosity help to cope with the reduced pressure of the heatsink compared to desktop configurations.

I personally prefer the IC 7 because it takes less time for the paste to reach its optimal state (~2 hours) and i have slightly better results with it.

here's the application method : http://www.innovationcooling.com/application.html
remove your previous paste using alcohol and by rubbing a little, make sure no factory paste is left before repasting and check of course if once removed, your previous paste didn't drip on a capacitor or any electronic component while you were removing it^^

 

Thanks for both of your replies. The GPU never gets this hot, the main ones that have temperature issues are the CPU and mainboard. I will re-paste the cpu and I've done this plenty of times with desktops so it shouldn't be much different. I'm seeing 90degree temps even while idle. I can have a webpage open and will hear the fans kick in only to check temps and see 88-90 c. Honestly though it doesn't seem to be a problem with the cooling because once the fans actually pick up temperatures drop really quick and stay in the safe zone with fans at not too high rpm. It just seems like the fans don't pick up speed enough until it breaks 90 c.... Most of the time while idle I have 39-41c but on occasion it does pick up (especially while charging). So I can re-paste with higher quality themal paste, however is there a better software anyone can recommend to have the fans kick in more quickly?

 

Here is when the fans are set to maximum in Hotkey Control Center and running Small FFT's in prime.


I don't mind replacing the paste, just wondering if the issue is something else.

 

Alright, I've been toying with it a bit because I would really like to resolve the issue or at least isolate the problem I know your recommendations were to re-paste it. However when running the stress test again, temperatures were low with the fans on automatic, then once I plugged in the charger temperatures jumped from 60c to 95 and up (I stopped as soon as I saw it increase to above 90. Is this typical? There were no problems with temperature until I plugged in...

 

The CPU was throttled on battery so your'e temps weren't so high.. once plugged it, it wasn't so temps shot up.. Repaste seriously

 

Yes, repaste, repaste, repaste. Learn this and you will be a happy laptop owner.

 

Just as an example.. stock dell and arctic cooling mx-4 paste used to cause my 3940XM @3.8GHz to run at 90v++... With IC Diamond, I run at 4.0GHz and my max temps in BF4 was 80C

 

Ok so I have repasted with IC diamond. I do believe there was a 1-3c degree of change possibly more. I have bf4 I will have to test that here in the near future.

 

You can keep re pasting until you are happy with the temps. If you haven't seen it, here is how they suggest you apply it Application

 

I would also suggest using max fans when playing.. Helps to reduce temps further!