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    Clevo P651SE (XMG P505) aftermarket power supply?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Azelphur, Jan 14, 2015.

  1. Azelphur

    Azelphur Notebook Enthusiast

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    tl;dr anyone know of any nice small third party chargers that'd work with the P651SE and have USB?

    Hi folks. Just got myself a shiny new Clevo P651SE. Yay.

    I previously bought a Clevo W110ER, The stock charger outputs 19V at 6.3A, it's also rather large, so I purchased a Thermaltake Toughpower Ultra Slim 95W power supply that can output 19V at 4.7A. This seems to work well, adds a USB port on the charger and is much less to carry around.

    When I bought the P651SE I had planned to buy another one of the Thermaltakes and use that (as I say, it's much smaller than most laptop power bricks and has a USB socket) however, the stock charger for the P651SE outputs 19V at 9.5A. I've been told that the Thermaltake couldn't cope and stuff would likely break if I used it.

    So with that short explanation out of the way, does anyone know of something similar to the Thermaltake Toughpower Ultra Slim 95W that has a bit more power? or any suggestions at all on the subject would be cool.

    Thanks
     
  2. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    stuff wouldnt break as long as u watch out not to stress that smaller psu too much :) basically, u can use any psu as long as it fits ur power jack (the one u need is a barrel type 2.5 mm inner diameter, 5.5 mm outer diameter). so yeah, best to get urself a powermeter, see under which settings u get a specific power draw and then stick to those settings as long as ure on that slimmer / lighter / weaker psu ;)
     
  3. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Thermaltake sell a 120w version (110w system, 10w usb) but it still won't cope with full load since it's a high end system.
     
  4. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    The question I want to know is: why exactly do you WANT a smaller power supply?
     
  5. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    because those 50 grams less weight make a HUMONGOUS DIFFERENCE when carrying it around ultima, dont you know that? ;)
     
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    Elipsus Notebook Consultant

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    I can't agree more with jaybee, slimmer is better, and i'm tired to bring a cinderblock in my bag, my dream would be a 180W psu with the size of a 95W ( even if i have to pay 200€ ;)......i think i will try to make one sometimes :D

    Elipsus
     
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    It's not always about weight though, it's a lot of times about size. When you're lugging around a lot of stuff in a limited volume backpack or bag, space is at a premium. And when I'm carrying my computer and both laptops for my kids (along with all our tablets and my phone, etc) it can become quite a burden. Clevo rarely makes strides with power supplies. It works and is twice the size it needs to be usually, but hey, you can't be superior at everything. :p
     
  8. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    just to be clear: i was being sarcastic in my last post :D
     
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  9. Azelphur

    Azelphur Notebook Enthusiast

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    This is good, but still can't provide the 9.5A required by the laptop, and would cause problems.

    Besides the differences people have already specified (HTWingNut does a good job explaining that). It's also very useful having that USB port. When you're out and about sockets are often at a premium (especially at airports) so it's great being able to charge your phone at full speed while charging your laptop too.
     
  10. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    as stated before, it would only cause problems if u max out the laptop's performance while on that psu, which is not recommended anyways. such a travel psu would only be for basic usage, not for gaming :p
     
  11. Azelphur

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    Nah, I'd want something for gaming that is capable of charging the laptop at full speed like the W110ER charger, starting to think it doesn't exist though :(
     
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    That's what I was considering. I don't understand why someone'd use a lesser PSU to take the laptop on the go. I suppose if you're not going to use it for gaming on the go etc that's fine, but then I can't see the purpose of getting a gaming laptop to not use it for gaming at places other than your home.

    Basically, the logic doesn't click for me. In Wingnut's case he does have a valid space problem, but that's three laptops + tablets + phones which is a bit beyond what most people would use, and I believe for that reason as well he likes the smaller-yet-strong notebooks, like the W230SS he fell in love with before XD.

    Now if you wanted it for specific occasions, I'd understand.
     
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    Trewhela Notebook Consultant

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  14. Azelphur

    Azelphur Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yea, for me it's literally just a size issue (I usually carry two laptops, a tablet and a bunch of other stuff in my backpack, it gets tight) and the USB socket would be nice too for when you're on the go and plug sockets are at a premium.
     
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    Yeah.. but in that case it still falls down to it: you can't use it under heavy load with a lesser PSU. If you're planning on gaming on the go, 120W is flat out not enough for an i7 and even a 970M (80W GPU package + 57W CPU package + rest of system components). 180W even gets stretched to the limit sometimes with 980M/i7 combos. Your aim should probably be to find a MINIMUM 150W brick that's smaller.

    Alternately, there is also the option of a larger backpack. I think Meaker's Everki titan could handle all your gear without any issue. I want one of them too XD
     
  16. Azelphur

    Azelphur Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well, just to compare, the W110ER has an i7 in it and a GT 650M, here's a side-by-side of the stock and aftermarket supply I bought

    [​IMG]

    As you can see, it's much smaller, and has USB, and it supplies the full current to the laptop (4.74A) which is amusingly exactly what the laptop wants.

    So I was hoping to find something comparable, but for the P651SE
     
  17. Elipsus

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    personnaly i use both my laptop for gaming and school, as i'm not supposed to play during work( in theory i mean ^^), a smaller PSU is fine for me, or i can just play on the iGPU, wich make a 95 W PSU enough :), i think the 180W PSU is a mobility killer for anybody who want to play everywhere ^^. + considering that a gaming notebook is already large and heavy, it make it even worse

    Elipsus
     
  18. Hephaestos

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    Umgh yes it can do 70W.. Wow that's great!!

    It's freaking useless for us.. 70W won't even be enough for my system runing with the iGPU...
     
  20. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    i think he was just trying to point out that general development of PSUs are heading into the right direction@smaller and more powerful ;)
     
  21. Hephaestos

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    That is correct. As I said: "It may be available in future" (it appears that for someone to clock 3K posts processing information before responding would not be practical).
    Zolt is a new, innovative company rewarded "Best of Innovation" at 2015 CES. This is their first charger, just about to be released after around one year of work. Yes, the list of compatible notebooks is short, and yes, the first model is not suitable for Clevo P65x. But they are looking for industry partners, and are planning to release more products, as I said: "in future". As they have many patents in this area and the product is unique (it is the smallest and most efficient power systems in the world!), there is hope that other manufacturers will start cooperating with them. We shall see.
     
  22. shinra00

    shinra00 Newbie

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    I just got one of these laptops. Has anyone found out a slim charger that works?
     
    Last edited: Nov 6, 2015