Clevo P770ZM LCD Panel Alternatives

It's the only notebook I wanted. I hate Optimus and all forms of switchable graphics on a gaming/workstation machine. People who complain about battery life on non-optimus gaming/workstation machines are insane.

This is a dream machine, thin and powerful. But the the LCD Panel is seriously lacking. How can a $2000+ machine in 2015 have a ChiMei? Brightness, Contrast, Response Time are all lacking, gimped, and pathetic for a $2000 machine. 72% NTSC is sweet spot for me, but that's all this panel does right. ChiMei's stats on panelook are nice, but reality sure isn't, and the quality control for this panel is atrocious, it truly is a lottery of what you get.

So, for those who are adventurous and knowledgeable, list alternatives that are compatible for this machine that don't have 250 cd/m brightness, crappy 20ms response, 500/1 contrast...

 

IPS pannels (LG 17.3" IPS) should be available in March (according to mySN).. Now whether the 770ZM has the eDP connectors etc I don't know..

 

It's not only about the eDP connector. The upcoming LG 17.3" IPS display requires a tooling modification in the display assembly - so you will not be able to just replace the screen, you'd have to replace part of the chassis as well. This is not something that anyone will be able to do for free.

 

due to the connector placement, you mean?

 

Eurocom has some additional LCD's for the P770ZM/EUROCOM P7 Pro

Choose your LCD Display
- 17.3-inch (43.9cm); FHD 1920x1080; MATTE (Non-Glare); 300nts; 500:1; LVDS Backlight LED; Chimei Innolux N173HGE-L11
- 17.3-inch (43.9cm); FHD 1920x1080; GLOSSY (Glare); 300nits; 500:1; LVDS; Chimei Innolux N173HGE-L21; Backlight LED
- 17.3-inch (43.9cm); FHD 1920x1080; GLOSSY (Glare); 90% NTSC; AUO B173HW01 V.4; 500:1; LVDS; Backlight LED

 

None of them good. ChiMei and then a 90%... No games recognize calibration profiles so colors will be over saturated. 72% IPS with fast response time is the holy grail.

 

You can make most games work with calibrated grayscale LUT if you use Borderless FullScreen modes, but many games work with LUTs even in normal FullScreen modes. ICC profiles have 2 sets of information - 1. grayscale LUT (white balance, gamma, temperature) and 2. colorspace. Games cannot take advantage of colorspace ICC data, but the LUT/grayscale/vcgt part of ICC profiles can be successfully enforced in most games. CPKeeper and FullScreenizer are 2 very good tools to force grayscale calibration LUT when gaming. Color gamut/colorspace is important too, but its grayscale that sets image depth and overall balanced look. I will dare to say I am a very knowledgeable calibration enthusiast and spent many months on learning about it and doing it. Each and every screen meant for gaming should be calibrated at least with i1Display Pro or ColorMunki Display, so you can see games as close to what developers intended games to look like as possible. Calibration greatly improves depth perception of your image and balances it out, which results in stronger game immersion. Its also very easy!

 

Uh huh, and colors are still way too saturated. Preaching to choir, I used 95%/for three years calibrated and games never looked right. 72% is the way to go for gaming. Unless you are using applications to match calibrations like photo editing, 90% or 95% whatever are useless, actually worse for any other use. Even video players for watching movies, colors are over saturated.

 

17.3" Full HD (1920x1080) Matte 72% NTSC Color Gamut LED Backlit LCD

MythLogic has that listed as an optional panel choice, does anyone know anything about it?

 

Yes, that I agree with that. I don't know whether NP9377 comes with a 72% NTSC screen or 90%. Do you know??? Why do they even use NTSC? Why not just say sRGB?

 

I contacted Mythlogic a couple of weeks ago, at which time I was told that the 72% screen will be either an LG or an AUO, or both, depending upon what they received. So I plan on checking back with them later in the month/early next month.

 

What is it now though? Unknown?

 

Mine is currently in QA testing and hopefully shipping soon. It'll be the 1st thing I check. I've asked them a couple times about the screen and never got an answer even though I've already ordered and paid for it. I decided to trust them anyway. Can't be worse than the 60% chi mei and they calibrate it for you. We'll see...

 

Sager says Clevo ships the notebook with ChiMei 72%

Will update the first post with links once these options are verified by various resellers.

For me, glossy is not an option. I can see my own reflection in glossy screens, never seen a glossy even with AR coating where I didn't see my reflection and that's so annoying when you're to play a game, seeing your own face...

 

any new news? i just emailed mythlogic so hopefully i get a reply tomorrow?

 

Don't know. I was waiting for some decent screen options, but I lost interest in this machine once the news hit that it may not be compatible with the next batch of 1150 cpus. Personally, I need to know that there is room for cpu upgradeability...I mean, isn't that one of the main reasons for not buying the new soldered BGA garbage? If I have to get a machine that is EOL for new cpus, I would rather locate a P570WM/WM3 with a 2011 4930K (which outperforms the 1150 4790K), which is a lower-end cpu for this machine, knowing that it can be upgraded to an uber-core V2 Xeon at some point down the road. And the P570WM has some righteous screen options.

But hey...that's just me. Good luck with the P770ZM...it's a decent machine in its own right.