Hello all,
So with the recent purchase of my P870KM1 from HIDevolution, I'm looking for some advice on how to overclock and undervolt this sucker until the official Prema BIOS come out. Since I'm not too familiar with the laptop scene, I am wondering what software is the best to use for GPU and CPU overclocking as well as the proper numbers for a 4.7GHz overclock for the CPU in terms of voltage.
I have downloaded MSI Afterburner and have used this software over the years to overclock my GPUs no problem but it seems I can't undervolt them either with the software. Also, CCC has GPU overclocking capabilities but they are rather clunky but seem usable. I tried using Throttlestop to overclock my CPU but my settings don't seem to stick over 4.5GHz and I'm not sure of the proper settings of what I need to use either.
Any guidance would be greatly appreciated on the matter as I'm looking for stable and constant numbers that most others get with decent temps! I'm not looking for anything insane but mostly cookie cutter that gives a little more "oomph" while still stable and cool!
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Support.1@XOTIC PC Company Representative
MSI Afterburner and Intel XTU are probably going to be the standard programs for overclocking, though Throttlestop is a good one as well.
With all processors, they really aren't guaranteed to get to a certain point. They are all different on how well they can overclock though. So 4.5 might be just the max that your specific processor can get. Would still be worth trying another program to see if it helps, but there is just some luck involved in that on how well the processor is made. Two chips back to back off of the assembly line could have different OC'ing abilities. -
I was at 4.7GHz yesterday with no issues but I'm not sure what to set the voltage at as I've never worked with the software, only BIOS overclocking. I tried settings voltage offsets in Intel XTU but they wouldn't save for some reason. Then again, I really have no idea what to set the numbers at for half of those sliders. -
You can undervolt the CPU with the stock BIOS. I use a -80mv. -100mv was unstable for me already. But you have to check it for your CPU. I would say start from -80mv and go down 10 notches every time, like -90, -100 etc. until its no longer stable with stress tests.
Edit: You can also start from higher number and then go up if you like. Some guys do that - start from -150mv and then go up like -130, -110 and so on until it is stable on stress tests, i.e. no crashes or hangs.
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I haven't overclocked it. Heck I even have SLI disabled at the moment. I feel the i7 7700k and one GTX 1080 is already an overkill for all the games I played so far.
Regarding undervolt, read my previous updated post. You can also start from a higher number like -150 and then add voltage until its stable.
Older Clevo models had some bug in the BIOS where the voltage offset had no negative option. Hence the need for a Prema BIOS for undervolting. This is no longer a problem in our laptops as it is fixed. Prema BIOS still has a lot of other advantages though for tweaking. Luckily I bought my laptop here in the EU from Obsidian-PC who also offer their own unlocked BIOS so I can tweak everything
Edit: Damn autocorrect. Not overcooked, I meant overclocked.
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If you don't know much about these, just ask @Phoenix to help you. Since you bought an EVOC machine, he will help you out to setup and tweak everything via TeamViewer
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Hello Guys, any one can send me your overclock setings? i have an Sky X9E3 , I7 7700K delided S/GTX 1080.
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, i5 6600K and GTX 980 no M
. I also bought BIOS from Prema
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i7 7700K is known to run notoriously hot. Intel recommends not to overclock this CPU lol ..
http://www.pcgamer.com/intels-tells-core-i7-7700k-owners-to-stop-overclocking-to-avoid-high-temps/
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
It's a 4-5ghz chip on a tiny process, no one else does that but it's still going to be hot.
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7700K overclocks just fine. Silly that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing at Intel. Reacting to a reports of overheating and Lord knows if the people reporting it have a clue what they are doing, what kind of thermal solution they are using, etc., etc. And, Intel has been saying it's normal to push 100°C with Kaby Lake, so they can't have it both ways, LOL. Silly geese, they are.
If the Core Max OC Ratio is set to default (0 = Auto), then 4.5GHz is all you're going to get. Need to go into the BIOS or use the Clevo OC utility and kick that up to the maximum (83) then you can run whatever multipliers you want to, up to the functional limitation of the laptop. If you use XTU it will set the Core Max OC Ratio to whatever your highest multiplier is currently set to.
Here is a thread dedicated to overclocking. Feel free to ask questions there as well. Clevo Overclocker's Lounge
Generic questions will have pretty much the same answer regardless of what make and model you have. Things like what software to use for CPU or GPU overclocking, what monitoring software to use, etc. are brand and model agnostic for the most part. Although, Clevo Control Center is proprietary, most solutions are not.Dennismungai, TBoneSan, Rynaus and 1 other person like this. -
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
I would check your power connection is not coming out slightly when the speed drops.
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Or bad power cord, as I read here another person was having kinda same issue. Or is there better settings I can apply to assist here. Thanks!
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Also the CPU hits a high of 99C with the motherboard at 95C w/o OC. This is when I play some games. Thank you in advance <3
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That is the most extreme form but not required to have the initial impact.
Is my original guide, though others have produced clearer versions I don't have them to hand right now.
You could look at the contact pressure on your CPU heatsink, a 0.5mm shim would be the easiest way to improve contact if it does not look good.
The most complete method would be getting the GPU contact as good as my picture above, replacing the paste with liquid metal, de-lidding the CPU and using the bitspower skylake (not the kaby lake version as the skylake one is thicker) replacement IHS with liquid metal either side.
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I used thermal grizzly pads and have in the past used phobya (not the XT ones, the blue soft 5 w/mk ones) without issue.
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As suggested above, an NVRAM reset will correct any alterations to the fan tables. -
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Hey guys,
The best thing you can do for your Desktop-grade system, next from running the Prema Mod BIOS and making other tweaks (like an undervolt) is delidding.
Delidding the i7 7700k dropped my temps by ~20 degrees Celsius.
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yep true, i delidded with a simple slim wilson double edge razor blade, it took me at least 30min bcse i was very careful, but impressive results. i didnt put back any silicon in corner for more pressure, just in all surface grizzly lm.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Don't forget to stick with the taller skylake rather than the kaby lake lid.
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For these with the older P751DM2-G that can't hit the desired OC: This is the fix. -
Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Depends on the level of your desired overclock
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Clevo P870KM1 overclocking suggestions w/ i7 7700K and SLI 1080's
Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by ZehTy, Mar 21, 2017.