Clevo P950ER Question

What we really need is to replicate Alienware's 13 inch OLED display but with high refresh rate and Gsync. If you have not seen that screen then you are missing out. By far, the best screen I have ever laid my eyes on. To bad its only in 13 inches.

 

It performs better in games that take advantage of higher CPU and memory clocks and additional cores.

And yes I do game as RL permits. I play a lot of CPU-intensive games like PlanetSide 2, BF4, Rising Storm 2, Insurgency, and Day of Infamy at high refresh rate. A Clevo LGA system is the only option for that.

From panels with actual measurements, the AUO B156HAN07.1 seems like the best. 10.4ms B2W and 6.6ms G2G response times keep up with even the fastest TN panels despite being AHVA (IPS). 1228:1 contrast and decent color accuracy and coverage after calibration as well.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-...ll-HD-Laptop-Review.293956.0.html#toc-display

 

Mind making a youtube video how you play BF4 on maxed settings with afterburner or HWinfo to showcase the FPS? The rest of the games are unknown to me, except for insugency which kinda even runs on a potato with high FPS.... so ya...

 

Insurgeny runs likes ass due to to pushing ancient Source Engine past its limit, and Day of Infamy is even worse. I'm talking about needing to overclock an Intel *lake architecture CPU to 4.7 GHz with 3000MHz RAM not drop below 100 FPS when looking across maps like Buhriz and Market in Insurgency or to not drop below 80 FPS in the middle of Flakturm, Brittany, and Saint-Lo in Day of Infamy. BF4 and RS2 run way better, and even PlanetSide 2 has better relative performance due to the scale of it supporting hundreds of players per fight.

I play BF4 with a custom config and settings on almost the lowest for best visibility and FPS. Won't be able to get you a video until at least next week because my laptop isn't finished setting up yet and I also need to find a low overhead recording program since recent Nvidia drivers broke the version of ShadowPlay I'm using.

 

Idk friend of mine told me he would only drop to high 90s when there is smoke and hes on a crappy 4790 non k @ 4ghz. I'm intrugied to try it myself, which map is the most demanding in that game? I'll see if i can grab the game on a friends steam account and try to see the performance on different rigs.

 

Panj, Buhriz, Market on 32 player PvP. If you're a noob though you might not even survive long enough to get good testing done.

Not sure if you could do it with 32 bots (never looked into it as I only play PvP) but I imagine the performance would be even worse.

 

It's fine I used to play CS competitvely so I'll be fine I think

Gonna update with FPS etc.

 

Trust me, Insurgency is 90% game/map knowledge, knowing all the optimal loadouts and angles, and 10% FPS skills. You're gonna get your ass handed to you for a while.

 

I bought the game, I did quite well honestly and you're right, it's about being extremely careful and aware. It's like 1 or 2 shots and u're dead. Worth the money, thanks.

However now the bad news. The 6700HQ on maxed or lowest settings, middle of market lowest FPS I've ever had was 76FPS. I noticed the CPU wasn't even remotely being used and the same goes to the GPU. Which seems to be pretty much the same as you're having on your 8600K, the game doesn't use ressources at all, and there I thought CS:GO was badly optimized. It's so weird seeing 35% avg usage and highest 50% and yet FPS goes from 76 to 200s.

I'll be waiting for your BF4 benchmark for now.

 

A 6700K at 4.6 with good RAM gets about 100 FPS around the middle point on Market from what I've seen. I've yet to test it on my 8600K which is currently at 4.7, but it'd be about the same I assume since the game doesn't use many cores. Like you saw, the optimization is horrible, and Panj and Buhriz are even worse. Insurgency: Sandstorm coming out later this year should actually run better since it's on UE4.

Day of Infamy is having a free weekend as well. It's by the same devs, NWI, and plays like a WWII Insurgency with fire support.

 

Thanks a ton for shedding some light on the subject! It's not easy to discern what panels are being used across models from different resellers without requesting specific model numbers, but it does seem like the IPS displays are garnering better reviews of color accuracy in general despite having lower NTSC range than a lot of the TNs...less color banding and angle shift. I know I've always personally preferred them for better contrast and saturation, but could just be subjective...definitely counter-intuitive though given the poor scores on paper.

 

Are you implying that the 8bit TN MSI panels are color banding while 6bit IPS clevo panels don't? :'D
Do you understand how color banding gets produced? :'D

and what @raz8020 already pointed out, panels are not created equal. We have seen this many times, it's nothing new.

 

No, I'm not, or at least didn't intend to. If you want to educate us morons on something, then by all means go for it, but condescension isn't very helpful. I've literally no experience with any laptop display of my own in the last 10 years, so forgive my ignorance.

Out of curiosity - does anybody know what chassis XMG is using on this (and putting i7-8700's in no less):
https://www.mysn.de/xmg-apex-gaming-laptops/xmg-apex-15

 

Pretty sure its the N957TP6 but we will only know for sure if we ask @XMG



There is your answer. And before you ask, the 60hz IPS panel from clevo is a 6bit panel, MSI 120 is 8bit.

 

Almost! N950TP6 .

 

I saw the Power spec 1510's and Power Spec 1710's open box for $994 in micro center in VA the other day. G-Sync 100Hz, 7700HQ, 16gb ddr4, 256gb m.2, and a full power GTX1070 you cant beat it!

 

I might buy the "PCSpecialist Defiance XS II" with the 1070 Max-Q. That should be the Clevo P50ER base if I am correct?

Any pros/cons or advices for this particular model?
I couldn't find anything smaller, with 120+Hz and with the same or bigger battery size while having either a 1060 or 1070q.

 

Yes it's based on the 15 inch Clevo.

 

Hi! I'm also interested in buying this laptop in the same shop (to renew my old but powerfull P650HR), and I asked them:

Model of 144Hz screen: B156HAN07.0 (Same as Aorus X5 V8: 93% sRGB, 61% aRGB, 12ms B2W, 19ms G2G)
Is it possible to turn off/on cores from BIOS: They can't confirm that. I'm very interested because in some cases I prefer higher freq instance of more cores (I''m not sure that this will work, but this would be fine)

I also asked about the GPU, specifically about the TDP limitation (80-90), and if they will release or can send the vBIOS with unlocked TDP: They said that they don't limit the GPU (I supose it's default limited to 80W for Max-Q) , and modify the vbios isn't allowed.

Now, I want to invoke @Prema (should I say his name three times in front of monitor ?) if in a future it will be possible flash vBios of other manufacturer to unlock a bit the TDP, in case that our manufacturer don't release that? I suppose that isn't recommended cause of manufacturer modifications

I couldn't find anything smaller, with 120+Hz and with the same or bigger battery size while having either a 1060 or 1070q

You can check the next models, but they're a bit expensive:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Gigab...070-Max-Q-Full-HD-Laptop-Review.296594.0.html
https://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-G...070-Max-Q-Full-HD-Laptop-Review.302998.0.html

 

No, it's not possible to do that with the stock bios

Take a look at this: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/mobile-pascal-tdp-tweaker-update-and-feedback-thread.806161/

The tool won't work with Coffee Lake laptops.

 

I was thinking in this: http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...x-q-in-the-p950er.816681/page-9#post-10730947

 

It also requires a hardware programmer.

 

Wait what why?
Think I missed the train here. What does coffee lake notebooks do to prevent it?

 

But is it still possible to edit the BIOS, right? (dumping, editing and flashing with AMI tools)

I know that vBios is another story, but allow CPU enable/disables cores in BIOS souldn't be hard (with a minimun knowledge and experience, ofc)

 

The new Nvidia BIOS structure required to boot with 8th gen is different.

 

Oh my ***ing god. NVIDIA tries to dumpster the possibility to mod the vBios even more? It's already hard enough as it is, no need to make it impossible, just because we refuse to use broken hardware at its fullest.

 

I think intel have played around with the UEFI structure so it had to be re-organised as the old Nvidia BIOS wont boot on the new platform. They have moved the options as a result but they are still there.

I don't think the mod was considered in the process.