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    Clevo P970ED idle power consumption

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by 1990BW, Jun 1, 2019.

  1. 1990BW

    1990BW Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi recently I've bought the Clevo P970ED barebone with i7 8750h and RTX2060.
    A very powerful gaming machine but I also like the convience of a silent, efficient working machine with decent batterylife.

    My previous machine was a P955ED with i7 8750h and GTX1060.
    On this laptop I configured a powersaver profile with Throttlestop and it was very efficient with power draw.
    It never exceeded 6-8 Watt when browsing/youtubing and when idle it only consumed 0.8-1.5 Watt.
    Batterylife was about 5-6 hours.

    On my new laptop I want to setup the same profile but somehow I don't get the same results with the same settings in throttlestop.
    The computer idles between 2-3 watt and when I start a YouTube video the power rises to 15-20 Watt and stayes there for a while.
    Batterylife is only 3-4 hours.

    Both laptops are running a clean installed Windows 10 Pro 1903.
    When idle the C7 states on the P970 are constantly jumping below 95% while on the P955 they are constantly >95%.
    I've checked taskmanager which reports only 1-2% cpu usage similar with the P955.

    So I'm a bit on a dead end now fixing this I hope someone on this forum can help?
     
  2. Vasudev

    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Is the panel GSYNC compatible? Do you have nvidia optimus?
     
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    1990BW Notebook Enthusiast

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    No G-Sync and the 2060 has optimus.
    When I open Nvidia console the power rises to 15W for a while.
    On the P955 these eratic power peaks don't occur.
     
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    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Do you have nvi GFE installed? And add GPU usage tray icon to see which apps are using dGPU?
    I feel the latest Intel DCH driver and nvidia driver w/o telemetry and bloatware should consume <10W in optimus mode.
     
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    The latest models are optimus only, but worth checking the nvidia card is not being set as above.
     
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    Optimus is working fine.
    I've followed the entire throttlestop guide last evening.
    C0 is >5% all the time and my cpu package is idling in C2 and C3.
     
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    When you say it's working fine, just to be sure how did you come to that conclusion?
     
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    When you click on the Nvidia GPU usage tray you can monitor activity.
    There was none so thats why I think it's fine.

    I did some more research and followed this guide:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...trol-of-the-i7-8750h-advanced-version.823065/

    It improves the C0, C3, C4 and C7 states but their values are still jumping around when idle and nothing is running in the background.
    In the Windows advanced power plan settings I also noticed Intel Dynamic Platform and Thermal Framework is running.
    It has 2 settings (45W and 35W) could this interfere with throttlestop?


    Edit1: Removed DPTF the issue persist
     
    Last edited: Jun 2, 2019
  9. Vasudev

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    On Battery use TS and set Speedshift value to 180 on battery profile. Set DPTF on battery to 35W and keep us updated!
     
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    Tried this but it didn't help.

    What kind of performance do other P970 owners get?
     
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    I faced 20W drain on nvidia optimus yesterday. I went into Power options advanced options and changed Intel Graphics power plan settings on battery from Balanced mode to Maximum battery. If you're using Intel DCH/Win32 driver uncheck Adaptive Brightness and choose Max battery life in intel control panel options under battery(Power) section/tab.
     
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    Tried this but unfortunately it didn't help.

    It's very confusing the P955 didn't need any further tweaking to run efficiënt.
    The only difference on software level I've found with the P955 is Intel DPTF.
     
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